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Draft 1 of the 2018-19 Student Enrollment Proposal includes recommended changes to some base attendance areas that aren't related to the opening of new schools.

Find more information about these proposed changes.

Please leave feedback and questions about these proposed changes below.

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Sabrina Sine 3 months ago

My son is currently enrolled in Timber Drive Elementary School. He will be a 4th Grader during the 2018-2019 School Year. I will hope there will be an option for me to opt-out of him transferring to Rand Road Elementary. He has established friends, confidence, and loves Timber Drive. My husband is Military and next year his unit is up for deployment - this would not be good transition period for any child, let alone a child in Elementary school! Please consider grandfathering in all grade levels and not just 5th Graders!

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Tim Manhardt 3 months ago

The 2018-19 proposal lists schools affected but unrelated to new schools. When I check my address it shows a change in base assignment for my elementary school even though my current elementary (Herbert Akins) is not included in the list of schools affected but unrelated to new schools. This draft proposal appears to be more far reaching than you are letting on. Where are the districting maps to support the proposal? The reassignment for my address is illogical on so many levels...including move to TR from YR schedule where my base assignment for middle school is YR. Where's the sense in this???

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Matt Dees admin 3 months ago

Did your base change to Buckhorn Creek? That is a new school. Go to page 17 on today's presentation for maps: http://www.wcpss.net/Page/30653 Learn more about Buckhorn Creek on our new schools page: http://www.wcpss.net/Page/30649

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Tim Manhardt 3 months ago

Further feedback for consideration on this specifically. The proposal pushes attendance from 96% of capacity to 178% at Lincoln Heights....while starting Buckhorn Creek at 66%. Overcrowding one school to drive up proficiency ratings while the new school waits for new move ins is not something I am interested in when my closest neighbors are being assigned to Buckhorn Creek. Please consider smoothing out that boundary to align with Piney Grove Wilbon Rd.

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Tim Manhardt 3 months ago

No. Looking at the maps makes it all the more confusing for my assignment. If the assignment were indeed the new school that would at least make sense. It is not. It is a move to Lincoln Heights. See the picture from the slide deck. That strange peninsula shape in the lower left of the purple region is where we live. You should consider smoothing out the boundary for Buckhorn creek to follow Piney Grove Wilbon Rd down to Academy. Eliminate the peninsula...

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Matt Dees admin 3 months ago

OK, I see. Some changes are made in assignment that are related to the new school but the student is not reassigned to the new school. Can see how that might be confusing. We will address this in more detail in an FAQ that we will post soon to this site. Meanwhile, please know our staff will review and consider all parent feedback as they prepare Draft 2.

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Beth Tyler 3 months ago

I am very concerned because my base school which has been Willow Springs Elementary for several years has is now proposed to change to FVES. We bought our house 8 years ago for this school and my son just started Kindergarten there this year. We also utilize the before and after school program there and a move to FVES will mean me having to find an alternate form of care and will cost my family around $200-$300 more a month! With rising healthcare costs we just don't have that kind of money! If this proposal goes through, we should be able to keep our kids who are currently enrolled there!!! I don't even care about not being provided transportation!!!

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Claire Cesta 3 months ago

Wcpss you have thrown my family into chaos year after year with repeated attempts to move my node to different schools. My son just started davis middle and my daughter is in 4th at Davis elementary. I pray there is a grandfather clause because the uncertainty and upheaval for proposed school changes that we went through just last year cannot happen again to my children.

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Erika Johnson 3 months ago

Please consider rezoning our neighborhood to align with the current feeder schools and to improve proximity. We currently attend Cary based elementary and middle schools (Adams/Reedy Creek, East Cary/Reedy Creek) but are zoned for a Raleigh based high school (Athens Drive) which is twice as far mileage and three times as far time wise as our closer high school (Cary). This increases time on buses, decreases parent involvement and the ability for children to be involved in extracurricular activities. Transportation could be excluded since we live so much closer and have to be in the same physical area for other children. Thank you.

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Tammie Burdick 3 months ago

FVES Is our second family. We love being a part of such an amazing team is teachers. I would hope that we are able to stay where we started. As has been offered in the past. we should be allowed to stay where we began and started our family. Why not move incoming and new students be placed at another school rather than tear our children from their place of comfort? We also have daycare provided B&A that does not bus to our newly proposed school.

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Andrea Short 3 months ago

My neighborhood, Carpenter Village, is reassigned from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle in this draft. My children will be in middle school in a few years, and we have been looking forward to sending them to Davis Drive for its traditional calendar, excellent academics, and proximity to our home. East Cary is more than twice as far away from our home as Davis Drive, and it will be very challenging for us and our neighbors to be active members of the school community (as is the case with Davis Drive Middle) when we live so far away. Please keep Davis Drive Middle as Carpenter Village's base middle school, with East Cary as a calendar option.

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Gordon Chen 3 months ago

Hi Andrea, this is Gordon from nearby Old Carpenter subdivision. I am trying to find help to share a post I uploaded to NEXTDOOR earlier within Carpenter Village subgroup. Screenshot is attached below and please let me know if I need to provide more information. Thanks! Gordon

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Anish Mathew 3 months ago

We stay in the Manchester Park subdivision and with this proposal, the base middle school would be East Cary middle which is twice the distance from our residence compared with the current assignment of Davis Drive middle. Our daughter attended Davis Drive Middle, and she has such a great experience. Is it asking too much if we want the same for our second child who is currently in Green Hope elementary?

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Lisa Kim 3 months ago

For 2017-18 will Apex Middle school still be capped? I will have a rising 6th grader. Salem MS is our base school but Apex MS is our traditional option. I am desperate to have my rising 6th grader on the same calendar with her sibling who is in high school. Will Apex Friendship MS be an overflow for residents of the Walden Creek subdivision if Apex MS is still capped? Or will the new school opening finally allow Apex to not be capped? How do I find out what my realistic traditional options are?

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Jason MacEntee 3 months ago

Almost identical to the other comments above. I don't see any changes proposed to Sycamore Creek Elementary school, where both of my sons attend now. But when I check my address, Sycamore Creek is not listed either in either my Base or Application Schools. Last year Sycamore was the only choice under the "Year Round Option". (I live on Paddock Circle.) How can I check the proposed Base and Application zone for a particular school?

Thanks in advance, Jason

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Matt Dees admin 3 months ago

Sounds like a change in application schools. Baileywick base? Go here for more information. http://www.wcpss.net/Page/32873

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Jason MacEntee 3 months ago

Matt, thank you for the feedback. Yes, I see now, that is exactly what happened. Is this the correct place to give official feedback? If so, I would like this reconsidered. Instead of simply a single Application school per base school, I think the year round schools should have their own logical application regions, allowing a family like ours which is 1/2 of the way between Pleasant Union and Sycamore Creek to apply for the school which is a better fit for us.

In my case, I'll have a middle schooler at Pine Hollow, and since we carpool, it only makes sense to have my rising 3rd grader remain at Sycamore which is practically next door. Otherwise, we are having to take our two children in opposite directions, which would make pickup impossible.

Thanks in advance for your consideration. --Jason

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Bob Shutts 3 months ago

Two pillars of the four are stability and proximity and the only two important to me as a parent. My daughter's 2018 school will be new with a move to a year round calendar and twice as far away as her current school. There was a short blurb in the video about the ability to be grandfathered into the child's current school. I hope that doesn't get lost in the new plan. Stability is a key component to any child's educational development.

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Melissa Miller 3 months ago

Yes, grandfathering existing students is important. Another issue is the treatment of siblings on a grandfather plan. What impacts one this year, may impact siblings as well in years to come and should also be taken into account.

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Perry Aaron 3 months ago

This proposal has my child in tears with the possibility of her going to a new school. She has been at FVES since kindergarten and has developed great relationships with not just her fellow students but with the faculty and staff. Having a random, unexpected, and seemingly unnecessary change as this one would be extremely detrimental to not just my child but all those affected by it. I ask that this proposal not move forward. If for any reason It does, students should be given the option not to move (not just rising 5th graders).

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Christina Haisty 3 months ago

My neighborhood is Carpenter Village. In this proposal, my neighborhood middle school changes from Davis Drive to East Cary Middle School.

East Cary Middle is more than twice as far from my house as Davis Drive is. When I entered my address into Google and searched for middle schools near my address, East Cary Middle doesn't even come up on the first page. There are at least four middle schools closer, if not more.

While I understand the county's desire to balance out school attendance, moving Carpenter Village to East Cary Middle would create a hardship on residents and children for these reasons:

1) Sleep. Children need it. The traffic in Cary is miserable. Bussing our kids twice as far as they need to go during rush hour traffic takes away valuable sleep time in the morning and valuable homework time in the afternoon.

2) Community involvement. We live on the west side of Cary. I have never even driven past East Cary Middle School, and I've lived in Cary for seven years. The west side of Cary is where we live, work, play, and participate.

3) Calendar. We are stuck with a year-round elementary school. We have done our part. We would greatly appreciate continuing to at least have a traditional calendar middle school.

In closing, I ask you to reconsider. Please keep Davis Drive as the Carpenter Village base school with East Cary as a calendar option.

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Gordon Chen 3 months ago

Hi Christina, we live in Olde Carpenter neighborhood. To involve more affected families, I am wondering if you could help spread the post I just uploaded on NextDoor within Old Carpenter Subgroup. In case you have a NEXTDOOR account and could easily view and forward the post to Carpenter Village forum that would be much appreciated! Thanks. Gordon

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Christina Haisty 3 months ago

Hi Gordon, I don't use NextDoor, but I do use Facebook. If you friend me on Facebook I will be happy to talk with you more about this.

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Rachel Smith 3 months ago

My base has never changed, we are vance/northgarner/garner. Vance and North Garner are yr t4 schools. According to the draft our traditional option is dillard dr as it has always been our traditional calendar choice even though its extremely far away from us who live near hwy 42! I received a separate email just now that north garner will become a traditional school in 2018-2019 school year, this was not added into this draft, but kept separate. There is no year round option/application school listed. I find that very sneaky and does not sit well with me. The base school lookup tool is conflicting with the separate wcpss I just received, you need to clarify this. There are many of us at ngms who need the year round schedule and want to know what our options are going to be since they are not made public. Also, wcpss is always concerned with the families in holly springs and cary and apex and north Raleigh, but those of us in the southern part of wake county along hwy 42 get screwed over and over again. we are sent to schools on the other side of garner when we are much closer to banks rd and Fuquay and even willow springs yet families who live literally right next to these garner schools are sent to west lake and middle creek. wcpss is absolutely not fulfilling stability or proximity as far as those us in my area of wake county.

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Tameeka Scott 3 months ago

Please don't make us move to FVES. We moved to Lakestone Village for Willow Springs Elementary School almost three years ago. At that time it was near the end of the school year but our principal Mrs. Miller was there to greet our daughter on her first day. She said she was wise to come at that point in the year (she would be getting a jump on the upcoming new year). We already felt bad to uproot our family but the timing was due to selling a home and buying at the same time. Our oldest daughter is still thriving there now in the fifth grade. Our middle daughter is now in the first grade. She loves this school. I was already concerned because not only will her older sister not be there next year but now the proposed school is traditional. The year round vs traditional calendar year works best with our family. Our daughters retain more and they get to spend track out time with grandparents vs having to spend money for expensive summer programs. I'm a stay at home mom so we live on one income. So with this choice you are either forcing my hand to find another school to accommodate both my children or force us to pay $100s of dollars for summer programs to entertain our children during the summer months.Is it normal practice to change an entire neighborhood that has been calendar year to traditional year for at least eight years? I'm also confused as to how this fixes the overcrowding already at FVES?. If transportation is a driving force it does not matter to my family. I would transport both ways, it's less than five mins away. How does this help to send students to a new school / new teachers/ new schedule? At the very least please add WSES to our list of application schools. Then allow the students already attending to be grandfathered in until they finish there. If I can drive almost an hour one way for a magnet school, it seems I should be apply to a school I'm already attending and its less than five mins away. Oh and now I need to find a year round option for my upcoming middle schooler and prepare for my upcoming kindergartner that will start in two years.

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Mike Hou 3 months ago

We are very concerned that my neighborhood -- Olde Carpenter, is proposed to be reassigned from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle in this draft. My son is in Davis Drive Elementary, and will be in middle school in a few years. My daughter just graduated from Davis Drive Middle. We have so many friends at Davis Drive Schools and we like Davis Drive School's traditional calendar as well. Davis Drive schools have been our base school for years. Stability and proximity are extremely important to us as parents and to the kids. As you know that East Cary Middle is more than twice as far away from our home as Davis Drive Schools, and it will be very challenging for us and our neighbors, as well as for the kids to get to school each morning. Please don't change existing school assignments, and your full consideration and thoughts are very much appreciated.

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Brian Chang 3 months ago

My neighborhood has been with Davis Drive Middle since the day they opened the door. I understand if we are reassigned because a new school opened up closer to us. However, the proposal will send us TWICE as far to East Cary Middle. We paid into the prime location between Davis Drive and 55 between High House and McCrimmon. I am just wondering if the proposal is fixing any real problem for Davis Drive Middle or just making room for somebody at the expense of others. As far as I can see, without new school, there is absolutely no reason to make changes to Davis Drive MIddle. Please don't assume your neighbor knows about this proposal. The notice came in the email simply because I have a middle school kid. I feel sick. I could have bought a house 1/2 the price with twice the land and live 2 minutes from school if we were to buy into East Cary Middle. I would like to see how they can justify sending us TWICE the distance to a school with HALF of the score. After all, we go to work and pay property taxes so we can pay their salary. Unfortunately, we can't hold them accountable. Somebody should look into to see if someone is benefiting from the shuffling.... If new proposal is not solving problems for PARENTS, then WCPSS is not doing their job. School's problem is just a symptom if their artificial attempt to draw funky maps. Keep it simple and use common sense when drawing base schools base on ONLY DISTANCE.

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Elizabeth Dean 3 months ago

My son just started kindergarten at Willow Springs Elemenary this year. I hope that he will be given the opportunity to remain at that school for 2017-18. Our family has gone through so many changes within the last year I would certainly hope switching schools will not have to be something we have to face. We will not be even using bus services. I choose to purchase our home due to the fact he could go to that particular school. It is such an amazing school, one in which I attended myself. Please do not let this effect my child. Thanks for considering.

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Amy McGovern 3 months ago

Please consider making Buckhorn Creek a year-round school. We have lived in Holly Springs for 6 years and next year will have a rising kindergartener. I am asking that you reconsider making this school a traditional calendar school and that you instead designate it as year-round school. A year-round school can house more students, and as it is Holly Springs is experiencing immense growth with new, and very large neighborhoods, with hundreds and hundreds of new homes being built within the area that will attend this school. I have read multiple articles that say that the school board believes that parents are against year-round schools. Every parent that I have spoken to loves the year-round option, and has built their lives around the year-round calendar. The year-round calendar allows for more student to attend the school, and it keeps the students engaged in learning - keeping learning up, and keeping students from learning setbacks due to long summer breaks. The year-round option is also very good for our local economy, which helps to increase the tax base, and as a result filter more funds to the schools. There are numerous businesses that have developed business lines which specifically cater to students who are on year-round schedules. Making this school a traditional school will have a direct and negative impact our students, our families and the economy. I have also read that the school board would rather add trailers to school campuses than enact a year-round calendar; and to me this is unexpectable. The trailers that are used in Wake County schools, lack security and adequate safety plans. Finally, with the traditional designation of this school, students will filter into a year-round middle school calendar, and then back to a traditional calendar for high school – this inconsistency cannot be good for learning. This will also cause situations where families will have children on multiple school calendars, and will be forced to juggle both traditional and year-round calendars – which will be a direct hardship for families and for working parents. As such, I ask that you kindly reconsider your calendar choice for this school and that you designate it as a year-round school.

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Beth Tyler 3 months ago

Please consider filling these new schools with rising kindergarteners and new people moving here, or people who have lived in their current homes for under 3 years! Many of us bought our homes several years ago for a specific school, now my child is in kindergarten at WSES and settled, please do not make us uproot him from a year round school that we love to send him to a traditional school. I don't need transportation, I can get him there myself. Please consider allowing students already enrolled to be grandfathered in if they so choose st all grade levels!

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Ruth Hawk 2 months ago

We are in the same position and oppose uprooting our kindergartner one year after he started school. Change is hard for him, and I don't want to see him go through a transition to both a new school and a new calendar. I also worry about how many more times we will be asked to switch schools as the school system grows and builds new schools. We need a place where our sons can stay and build a community. We are happy to provide transportation to WSES for him, as long as he can stay there.

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NC Heel 3 months ago

Mr Dees, I wanted to see if you could clarify some information for me as there seems to be some confusion about the application school for 2018-19 vs. the calendar option that currently exists. From watching the work session ( and reading the posted information regarding grandfathering and transfers), it seems that if you have a YR base school assigned to your address, that you can apply as a transfer to a traditional calendar school rather than there being a traditional calendar option with transportation, correct? If applying and accepted as a transfer student to the traditional calendar application school, transportation would not be provided. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

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Kathryn Crook 3 months ago

Please provide an option to stay at your current base school for grades other than 5th. My Kindergartener loves FVES and needs stability. We moved from GA last year, attended a private school for pre-school, and thought long and hard about moving to Public School in fear of him having to be uprooted due to zoning changes. Uprooting him after he has found a comfort zone, is excelling, and made new friends is in no way shape or form stability. Please keep FVES as a base for Leatherstone Lane.

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Jen Locklear 3 months ago

I received a second email stating that "the Wake County Board of Education on Tuesday indicated it intends to convert Lake Myra and Timber Drive to a multi-track year-round calendar, beginning in July 2018" and the final vote is expected on Oct. 3rd. This seems to be separate from the enrollment proposals. Will there be a feedback session for the public regarding this topic?

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Matt Dees admin 3 months ago

No, we gathered feedback from parents and staff on the calendar change discussion earlier this year.

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lauren mclamb 3 months ago

it sounds as if these calendar changes are going to happen if so, you really need to address what the calendar application schools will be. this draft address tool does not reflect those calendar changes at all.

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Melanie Rudd 3 months ago

This is interesting that WC would be converting schools to year round calendars when previously stated that new schools (Buckhorn) are planned as traditional and there is more need for traditional schools.

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Kathryn Reis 3 months ago

My daughter is in first grade at her base school, Dillard Drive Elementary School. I toured four schools before she entered Kindergarten, including the year round school Adams which is now our proposed base school. I did not like Adams nearly as much as I liked Dillard Drive. Now that I have been a volunteer at Dillard Drive and watched how much my daughter loves everything about her current school, I do not want to uproot her. What assurances do I have under this proposal that my daughter can stay at Dillard Drive and that my youngest child can also enter Dillard Drive if my eldest gets to stay there? It is not appropriate for the school board to require children to move among schools before graduating to the next grade tier (middle school, high school). Children get immersed within a community when they enter school. As a family, we are not relocating to a new house in a different school zone. We should be able to keep our children in the same school from day one through graduation so they can truly feel connected to the staff and students with whom they interact. That is one important way in which you make children feel comfortable in school--immersing them in a community and keeping them there so the children don't have to combat anxieties associated with entering a new school environment. Please address this concern directly in your school assignment proposal.

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Hong Yi 3 months ago

My heart sank when I just heard from neighbors that our neighborhood -- Olde Carpenter, has been proposed in this draft to be reassigned from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle. Changing to a much farther away middle school especially with a different calendar option would cause chaos for us parents who need to juggle between jobs and kids. Stability and proximity to school are extremely important to busy parents and to the kids. East Cary Middle is so much farther away from our home as Davis Drive Middle, and it will be very challenging for us parents to manage and for kids to commute to and from school. Changing our school assignment to East Cary Middle will surely cause disruption and chaos to so many families. Please do NOT make changes to existing school assignments unless absolutely necessary with no other options. Thank you!

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Rajaa Raoui 3 months ago

I am disapoined about the chage of base school of my kids from Dillard elem. to Adams elem. my kids are in 1st and 2nd grade they love their school, friends and teachers. They are doing very well in reading happy with their school ride the bus everyday. We bought our house three years ago so that my kids could go to Dillard's dr elementary it's a great school. I hope that you refuse the proposal because you can not force us to change from regular to year round calendar. I think that this proposal will only increase Dillard dr elm. carpool line.

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Wenkui Wang 3 months ago

I’m very disappointed that WCPSS propose to reassign our (Olde Carpenter subdivision) base school from Davis Drive MS to East Cary MS in this draft 1. Davis Drive MS has been base middle school of Olde Carpenter community for years, many families here have built strong ties with DDMS over the years. It’ll be definitely emotionally hurt to many families that their kids have to leave the Davis Drive MS to attend a totally new school.

East Cary MS is two times remote in distance. It will create a lot hardship for parents who need to pick up kids for after school activities. Not to mention that it will add unnecessary more traffic to busy roads around Cary downtown area. PLEASE KEEP Davis Drive MS as our base school.

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John Specht 3 months ago

My son goes to fuquay elementary and next year will be his last year there. He will be graduating and moving on to middle school. According to your website he will be reassigned to Lincoln heights. I do not like this and think that would be horrible for him. He has certain learning disabilities that fuquay elementary has been working on with him and have don't a great job. It would serve him, his education and his future much better for him to finish out his final year with the wonderful staff and his friends that he has made at fuquay elementary. Please don't do this to my son.

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Perry Aaron 3 months ago

Please see the 1st Grandfather rule: "Elementary school students who experience an assignment change as a result of this enrollment proposal, and are rising into grade 5, are eligible to request a transfer to “grandfather” at their current assignment. These requests will be approved."

Unfortunately for my daughter she does not meet this criteria, and if this proposed change happens she will be torn from the one school she know and loves.

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Rain Xie 3 months ago

It does not make any sense to reassign the base school of our neighbor ( olde carpenter subdivision) from Davis Dr MS to East Cary MS considering the facts that: (1) East Cary MS is far distant from where we live. Our kids will have to sacrifice their sleep and activity time to commute longer distance to and from school, which will eventually impact their academic performance. The long distance also makes it harder, if not impossible, for many parents to get involved into the activities at school. (2) East Cary MS holds a different calendar option than the Davis Dr MS. This creates additional inconvenience to the families. (3) The rate of East Cary MS is much lower than that of Davis Dr MS which had been our base school for years. We were willing to pay for the higher housing price for the better education quality for our kids. It is very unfair to just ignore this fact and arbitrarily re-assign our base school.

We, the parents at Olde Carpenter subdivision, strongly vote against such re-assignment and suggests the WCPSS to reconsider the draft proposal.

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Rachelle Mangin 3 months ago

My daughter has been at Knightdale HS and is currently a junior and your proposed based school changes for next year which would be her SENIOR year is South East HS in Raleigh. I OPPOSE this change since she will be a senior transplant which would negatively affect her grades and prevent her from keeping her ranking authority in the JROTC, Drill, and Color Guard program that she has worked so hard for over the last couple of years. This proposed reassignment needs to take into consideration the impact it will have on the child especially those that are graduating that same year. This proposal for new schools in other areas should not be impacting Knightdale High School students in their last year. This is wrong and stressful for the families impacted by this proposed reassignment. I propose Special consideration should be given for upcoming seniors. Hopefully you reconsider and accommodate by allowing upcoming seniors stay at their current schools and graduate with their class in the upcoming 2018-2019 school year.

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Matt Dees admin 3 months ago

She would be eligible to "grandfather" and stay at Knightdale for her senior year, under the current proposed grandfathering rules. You would apply for a transfer in February and that request would be automatically approved. Here's more info: http://www.wcpss.net/Page/30654

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Rachelle Mangin 3 months ago

Ok, Thank you!

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Jennifer Funderburk 3 months ago

I am concerned that with all the new housing developments that Apex Friendship Elementary school isn't scheduled to be built nor opened for the next five years. I do not see how the current elementary schools can handle all the new enrolling students from all of the new neighborhoods currently being built in Apex near AFHS and New Hilland off of Olive Chapel Rd. Will this concern be addressed? Since I understand that the school already has the land, next to the current middle and high school, is there anyway the timetable will be moved up for this elementary school? Thank you.

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GiGi Smith 3 months ago

Please reevaluate your student reassessment for Aversboro Elementary School to Creech Elementary school. It does not benefit the children for the following reasons: 1) The students assigned to Aversboro Elementary are closer to the school than Creech Elementary thus increasing the traveling time. The infrastructure of Garner roadways and incoming traffic from major highways like Highway 70 and 40 will cause an undue burden on parents. With the persistent and continual shortage of public school bus drivers, transportation needs can not be reasonably met with challenges. 2) Aversboro Elementary is a STEM school that is preparing our son for a future in science and engineering. To leave a thriving school to go to another school that is struggling academically and is ranked 101 among the 108 elementary schools in Wake County is an academic hinderace to my son's academic career. 3) Children in grades 3-5 who take the EOG should be exempt from this reassigned as it would be detrimental to academic growth. 4) Aversboro STEM and Creech Elementary are both designated low socioeconomic schools . So how would Creech benefit from moving peers who share the same socioeconomic background. I believe research would support all children need stability to foster academic growth.

Please allow a grandfather clause for children especially in grades 3-5. We searched for a home for almost a year with the one goal of keeping our son in his current school. Now this reassignment plan was unwinded our son's academic career . Please simply this plan with the best interest of education and child welfare as the primary goal. God bless America!

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Rachel Smith 3 months ago

Please explain how converting timber dr to multitrack helps the under enrolled both garner middle which you are turning into a traditional school?! Currently timber dr kids feed to ngms now they will feed to who knows where bc you didn't list it but we have no yr middle schools in garner anymore! So you'll either still place them at ngms with mismatched calendars or allow them into west lake which is already full.

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Charity Inglis 3 months ago

Please don't make us move from Willow Springs Elementary! We moved to Lakestone Village for Willow Springs Elementary School almost three years ago. All the staff including Mrs. Miller is amazing and understands my son’s IEP and special needs. My daughter attended WSES and thrived there and as a result she is thriving at her magnet middle school where my husband teaches! My son is in third grade at WSES and he loves this school. Also, I want to stay on year-round since my son retains more and he gets to spend track out time with grandparents vs having to spend money for expensive summer programs. Is it normal practice to change an entire neighborhood that has been calendar year to traditional year for at least eight years? I'm also confused as to how this fixes the overcrowding already at Fuquay Varina Elementary School? If transportation is a driving force it does not matter to my family as I provide transportation to and from school. How does this help to send students to a new school / new teachers/ new schedule? At the very least please add Willow Springs Elementary to our list of application schools. Then allow the students already attending to be grandfathered in until they finish there! If I can drive almost an hour one way for a magnet school, it seems I should be applying to a school I'm already attending and its less than five mins away. If this proposal goes through, we should be able to keep our kids who are currently enrolled there! I don't even care about not being provided transportation! Otherwise, I will request him to stay at WSES as a part of his IEP!!!

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lauren mclamb 3 months ago

I see a flaw in my area of town. From the draft and online address tool my base assignment stays the same. North Garner Middle. However on the online tool it is listed as track 4 year round and my application traditional school is Dillard Dr. BUT, I received an email stating that North Garner will be converting to traditional next year, and no YR application school is listed. Having a base of North Garner (traditional) and an application school that is also traditional (Dillard) makes no sense. Please update this so we can make a fair assessment of what is happening in our area. Also, turning Timber Dr elem back into a multrack year round (which our area is definitely lacking) will only make North Garner Middle even MORE underenrolled, you do realize that correct? Supposedly wcpss wants to fill up these underenrolled schools but you are now taking a fairly large population that normally feeds into north garner (t4 to t4) and taking that away. Please clarify this issue as it is not accounted for in the draft.

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Matt Dees admin 3 months ago

Sorry for the confusion on this. The board hasn't officially voted on the calendar changes. We will address this in more detail in the FAQ we will post later this week.

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lauren mclamb 3 months ago

please address the likelyhood of those who want to stay at a year round and apply for one would actually get it. i have a strong feeling west lake middle will be the application school and there is no way anyone will get approved for it so its false hope

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lauren mclamb 3 months ago

and making timber a multitrack yr, which i love by the way, will be horrible in middle school bc garner doesnt have a multitrack year round middle...you are just pulling more students out of garner schools which are already struggling to stay at enrollment

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Jacklyn Vogel 3 months ago

How does it make sense that our neighborhood would be switched to traditional calendar for elementary but middle school base is staying a year round?!?! I can't have my two elementary kids on a different schedule from my middle schooler. This is not a workable method for young families at all--base elementary and middle schools NEED to be the same calendar option! I have a rising fifth grader who would probably be grandfathered in but where does that leave my first grader?!?! This needs too be fixed!

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Jennifer Stannard 3 months ago

This draft proposal appears to affect more individuals than folks are letting on. This proposal affects children at current schools, NOT just new schools. My son currently attends Herbert Akins (Year Round) and they want to change the base school to Lincoln Heights (Traditional). Based on the new proposal he will attend Traditional calendar and then move to a Year Round schedule for middle school?? What is the point of that? We bought our home specifically because we wanted our children to attend Herbert Akins. We spent time reviewing the school report cards, calendar options, etc. Now you want to change the base schools for my children from Herbert Akins to Lincoln Heights?? Herbert Akins last school report card showed the composite score to be 73.3% and now you want to send them to a school with a composite score of 43.9%?? Also, based on the proposal Lincoln Heights will be operating at 173% capacity with these base changes while Buckhorn Creek will only be at 66%. Clearly, Lincoln Heights isn't operating well to begin with and now you want to increase their capacity? Can the school even handle that? I would hate to see what their school report card is after that....this proposal sickens me. Seriously consider another option with regards to these base changes.

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Gordon Chen 3 months ago

----------Reverse Proposed Base School Change to Carpenter Village/Old Carpenter ---------- Dear WCPSS Board and Office of School Assignment:

We want to share our bewildered concerns about changes to base middle school from Davis Drive MS to East Cary MS in upcoming school years. Risking unintended doubts on your wonderful effort sifting through maze of factors and putting together the proposal, below notes also bear our utmost respect for East Cary MS or peer neighborhoods and are solely based on anticipated hardships exclusive to our subdivisions. It is also our sincerest wish that county could keep this forum open long enough and offer more public hearings to ensure most informed executive decisions by board members.

Personal/Common concerns: • Significance on stability: We relocated to Cary from out of state for its vibrant school districts and had to endure emotional detachment with former hometown and anxiety through multiple school changes. Stability is not only best friends for our kids to cope with new environment but promises from us parents.

Onto bigger samples, there are well documented researches regarding psychological effects on young children from frequent school changes. Emotional attachment to schools and communities are intangible yet invaluable to kids’ mental health.

• Distance puzzle: On one hand, attached slide#34 shows existence of Khaki colored neighborhood(s) located much closer to East Cary MS yet remained association with Davis Drive MS. On the other kids from our subdivisions are all being considered to re-distribute to a school doubling the driving distance.

• Traditional option: One of the highlights from previous years’ enrollment plans is calendar choices. We strongly believe keeping Davis Drive MS as traditional option will help mitigate concerns while extending a choice all families deserve.

• Future projected enrollments: As attached slide#34 indicates, over-crowdedness at East Cary MS is projected to commence from 2018-2019 till 2021. During the same time window, Davis Drive MS goes under-capacity evidenced by with-cottage utilization at 87% in 2018 school year.

• Aggravated driving distance: 3.6 miles versus 7.9 miles! While staying within single digit in mileage might not sound too terrible, kindly please consider confounding factors like rush hours traffic, school bus routes/stops and the aggravated distance by all affected families.

• Aggravated loss of community-serving time: Roughly 30 minutes more for a single round-trip. Numbers easily add up significantly from all affected parents. That aggravates to a huge time loss for PTA participation, community engagement and contribution to school activities.

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Shirley Yan 3 months ago

Here comes the attachment.

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Frank Duan 2 months ago

Totally agree. We live in Chessington subdivision and face the same situation as your neighborhood. I strongly vote AGAINST this new proposal.

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Jenn Aaron 3 months ago

Please reconsider these proposed changes. Our daughter has been going to FVES for 4 years. She has established relationships with other children, faculty & staff. As a child that suffers from anxiety, I believe it would be extremely detrimental to take her out of the familiar learning environment that she's thriving in and move her to a new school.

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Nick Miller 3 months ago

Please don't make us move from Willow Spring Elementary. We moved to Lakestone Village specifically for the school. We have family that works at WSE and this change will affect our ability to get our daughter to and from school, after school care which may cost more than we can bear. I'm concerned about the grandfather option too. My daughter is only in kindergarten, and we have another daughter that will enroll in 2019. So even if we get our daughter to somehow stay does that mean our other daughter would have to attend Fuquay Elementary? It would be nice to learn that if you already have a child that's in a school, they can stay as well as any children currently in the house as well. I feel like from an administrative standpoint this is something that could be easily sorted out. Willow Spring somehow isn't even our year-round option. This is all just really disappointing.

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Kyle Zachary 3 months ago

I understand that changes are necessary based on growth but I disagree with pulling students out of their current schools and especially not including their current school as an application school. Grandfathering for all current students AND siblings MUST be part of this. My oldest is in kindergarten at WSES. We moved to our current home based on the school assignments. We love everything about the school, our daughter has transitioned very well, and we’re getting involved with the PTA. The entire family is invested in the WSES community. You’re now proposing that we tell her she not only has to move to a new school next year, make all new friends, but also change to a traditional calendar. The year-round format works best for our family. Even our application school option for year-round would have her moving to a new school that’s farther away. We want the option to keep our children in WSES. We will handle transportation if that is a driving factor in this proposal. I encourage all Lakestone Village residents to post here and attend the meetings to let WCPSS know this proposal is unacceptable without allowing all current students and siblings to be grandfathered into their current schools.

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Katie McDermott 3 months ago

The change of Vance ES being changed traditional 's year round. We already had the choice of traditional if we wished.. I love year round school for my elementary children. They have thrived in such a learning experience. I DO NOT want my children in a traditional calendar it would be detrimental to their education. My one song as learning disabilities and need that year round environment with only short breaks.. Will we be offered a year round option to attend??? I hate for then to move schools considering I currently have a 4th grader and two 22nd graders... If I had wanted my children in a year round school I would have chosen that option from the start., I find year round it much better education wise for children at least elementary aged.

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Rachel Smith 3 months ago

your yr will more than likely be timber which they are proposing to make a multitrack year round school which again makes zero sense bc they are NO multitrack year around middle schools in garner for timber dr to feed into, but our area gets ZERO acknowledgment from wcpss as always.

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Melissa Miller 3 months ago

I am another parent unhappy with the decision to change our base middle school from Davis Middle to East Cary. We are in Cedar Bend (a very small community of 37 houses), but we have many kids including mine who will be impacted. There is no new school, so I don't understand the change. The kids are not being shuffled so that they are at the closest school to your house - in this case (as it is for others in the area) they are now proposing assigning them to a middle school twice the distance away. Other middle schools are closer than the new assignment. We don't want a year round middle school as our base school. If we wanted year round we would have requested the change. No, we want to keep our children on the same calendar and remain on the traditional calendar.

So in a time of money constraints, I struggle to see how busing kids twice as far makes any sense. Please work to keep kids at schools that are closest to their house. It just makes more sense to limit bus costs and limits the time wasted of the students on the bus.

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Clint Edwards 3 months ago

This draft proposal is reassigning the vast majority of the elementary age kids in Fuquay. Fuquay doesn't even have a new school on the list. This proposal appears to be reassigning students for the sake of moving students around. What are the number of students that are projected to be reassigned as a result of this proposal? I understand the need to address growth, however reassigning so many of our young students shouldn't be the plan. We should grandfather students at existing schools even if we have a need to reassign neighborhoods to a different school. We have been at our current elementary school for nine consecutive years. I don't understand why my 1st grader can't finish at the school where she started, just like her siblings. I just don't understand why we play this same student reassignment game every year. It isn't good for students, teachers, schools, and school board member reelection.

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Katie McDermott 3 months ago

I completely agree.. We did a bit of moving 4 years ago and my younger daughter was in kindergarten and the moving was detrimental to her education. Once we settled into 1 school ( we puchased a home ) her academics skyrocketed. I also find year round school is so much better education wise.. They retain the knowledge so much better... If I wanted my children in traditional school I'd have enrolled them in so.

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Sarath Polireddy 3 months ago

We live in Old Carpenter neighborhood next to carpenter elementary. This proposal says our middle school is being changed from Davis (3 miles) to East Casy MS(11 miles) . One of the main reasons we got a home here is proximity to his schools (Carpenter/Greenhope, Davis MS and Greenhope). We don'tunderstand on what basis this proposal is being made.. Please give higher priority to the proximity of the school based on address.. It becomes *** nearly impossible to participate and volunteer in school activities **** if the school your kid goes to is so far away from the home.. If the real problem to solve is to get higher participation in schools that are lagging.. Please plan on improving the facilities at the said school which improves the rating and eventually participation. and do not disturb the life of a student/parent.

Please consider this as a sincere request and give us an option and priority to stay in the schools that we were assigned when we purchased the home/ moved in to the address we are at..

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Raghu Manne 3 months ago

We are very concerned and disappointed that our CHESSINGTON sub-division in Morrisville is proposed to be reassigned from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle in the draft1 2018-19 proposal. My daughter will be in middle school next year. There is no new school coming up near to our subdivision and I don't understand the change. Davis Drive Middle school has been our base school for years. It does not make sense to reassign to a school which is twice as far away from our existing base middle school. We don't want a year round middle school as our base school. We want to keep our children on the same calendar and remain on the traditional calendar. It will be very challenging and disappointing for parents and kids. It will be impossible to participate and volunteer in school activities. This change will cause hardships to families in our subdivision. PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE don’t change our existing school assignments and continue Davis Drive Middle as our base school.

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RAY SUN 2 months ago

I strongly agree with your comments

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Courtney Zachary 3 months ago

When I saw this proposal for the first time yesterday I was very upset and concerned for my children. We have lived in Lakestone Village for several years and one of the things that caught our attention to the neighborhood was the base school for elementary being Willow Springs Elementary. Our oldest daughter started kindergarten this year on Track 1 and she has done amazing! She loves the school, the atmosphere, teachers, principal, and has made so many friends just during her first quarter. Our family really likes the track out schedule and it works well with our family and we now have a routine. I disagree with pulling students/children out of their current schools and feel it is not fair to only say you will grandfather the rising 5th graders. I strongly believe and feel most others feel the same that you should grandfather ALL current students and feel that siblings whether already attending or who will be attending in the future should be grandfathered to attend with their siblings as well! We love Willow Springs Elementary and have joined the PTA and become very involved with the School, and to see that our base school next year will change to Fuquay Elementary and change from track out to traditional does not seem acceptable. We want the option to keep our daughter in Willow Springs Elementary and for her younger sister to be able to attend in the future as well. We will handle transportation if that is a driving factor in this proposal. I also encourage all Lakestone Village residents to post here and attend the meetings to let WCPSS know this proposal is unacceptable without allowing all current students and siblings to be grandfathered into their current schools. I do not even want to think about having to tell my daughter she can not attend the same school next year and how confusing and disruptive that will be. It is a big deal to start school and start kindergarten. To tell these children that have worked so hard to form relationships and become familiar with their routine and surroundings that they have no choice but to move to another school is unacceptable and just not fair to anyone! Please do not make my kindergartener change schools and leave Willow Springs Elementary, let her stay at Willow Springs Elementary and allow my youngest that opportunity as well!

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Kari Summers 3 months ago

This comment will be a bit different, but I feel it's something that should be considered. When I heard that the base area for Adams Elementary and East Cary Middle was going to be expanded, I was really hoping the expansion would include our neighborhood (which is in the vicinity of Waverly Place). My older child goes to Adams YR Elementary now but East Cary YR Middle (basically around the corner from Adams) is not an option for us currently. The YR option for middle school for us is West Lake, which is twice as far away. Since a lot of the Adams kids feed into East Cary, it seems to make sense that if Adams is our elementary calendar option, then East Cary should be our middle school calendar option. I've seen many comments from families in the Carpenter Village / Old Carpenter areas saying that they are now assigned to East Cary and I agree with them that it doesn't seem to make sense for them, when instead the base area could have included neighborhoods closer to East Cary, like mine, and include families, like mine, that DO want to go to East Cary because it is a closer YR option than what we have now (not to mention continuity from our current elementary school). I saw in another thread that West Lake is hard to get into (it must be near full). I have not verified that independently, but if that is true, it would mean we really don't have a YR middle option at all. I'm a firm believer in YR and we really need to keep that schedule for our family. I just wanted to add this situation to the discussion in case there is a possibility of swapping the Carpenter neighborhoods for my neighborhood (and others near me) in the new East Cary base area. Of course I am just one voice in my neighborhood/area and others may disagree with me. Each family has their own needs and preferences. (Our neighborhood's current base is Dillard, but no one goes there. They all go to YR, Magnet, or private.)

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Alicia Smith 2 months ago

Hi Kari! Thank you for your thoughtful response and for considering what's best for BOTH of our families, children and neighborhoods. This is a great point and seems like an obvious win-win for both parties. We're to have a meeting THIS Wednesday (Oct 11, 2017) with our school board representative. I'm just parent trying to help another parent, but promise to bring up your proposal at that meeting. If you'd like to be there, I'd love to meet you. Join us at 5:30 at Pine Hollow MS, 5365 Bartram Place, Raleigh 27617. Good luck!

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Mary Chestang 3 months ago

If your child is at a school based on being previously grandfathered does that stand?

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Shirisha Harkara 3 months ago

We live in Olde carpenter neighbor hood I just saw the middle school change from Davis middle to East Cary middle. Wcpss this is completely insane east cary is twice the distance away. My older one graduated from Davis drive since it's closer to home I volunteered in the school. I have a younger one who will be in middle school in two years. Right now she is going to a private school thanks to wake county school system for not offering her a seat in traditional elementary. Please don't put us in jeopardy by changing the schools every year.

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Frank Duan 3 months ago

The Chessington neighborhood has been assigned to Davis Drive MS (Traditional) for years. Suddenly moving the students way east to East Cary MS (Year round) DOES NOT make any sense. Not only will the proposal change the school but also the calendar! Please do not change!

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Nadire Gokcehan 3 months ago

I agree, I strongly OPPOSE the change. These kind of changes should solve problems not create them. Chesssington is closer to Davis Drive MS and our families and kids are happy with their base schools. Don't change! Hear the people the change will effect!

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RAY SUN 2 months ago

I strongly agree with your words. It would be farest distance from Chessington to east Cary middle school, not mention to the traffic in Cary!

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Jyothi Sabbineni 3 months ago

My kid goes to Davis drive middle. Please don't change the base school from Davis drive middle to East cary. Who wants to send kids to bad rating school which is so far away from current school. Please deny this proposal.

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mike rawls 3 months ago

can someone please explain why neighborhoods in fuquay heck even almost in raleigh are zoned for holly springs schools while holly springs folks can't get in? if they are going to make changes here and there why just rezone everyone and start over and make these maps make sense. west lake middle base area has addresses right by the school then an island on the other side of garner, for diversity reasons i am guessing. but then crooked creek and banks pointe which are very close to west lake middle and even north garner get zoned for holly grove middle which is super overcrowded as it is. then you have the 27603 raleigh people who are literally one street over from fuquay being bused to garner schools when the garner people are getting bused to west lake schools. this causes a chain reaction, working parents are commuting out of their way, pta activity is down because it is not convenient to the home...you want wcpss schools supported with active families because that is what makes schools succeed yet you are making it very difficult and frustrating and folks are leaving for charters and homeschooling. each area of town should have a traditional and year round option yet certain parts of the county you are elimination year round options or just leaving one that feeds into a mismatched middle school. the pillars of stability and proximity that you advertise is bogus. i know several people with kids on different tracks in different parts of town and no matter how hard they tried student assignment would not budge and help them out so their children would be on the same calendar. can you imagine having two kids on track 1 and 3 or 4 and 1, yes that is what some wcpss families are dealing with. so much for hardship transfer.

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Jen Lee 3 months ago

I am having a hard time understanding the reasons behind this re-assignment. I understand for new schools, but this seems like a massive change well beyond the new schools. For example, I have two kids at Sycamore Creek who have been there 3 years, have a well established routine, friends, etc. As parents we have had kids at this school for 8 years and are familiar with the wonderful staff and environment. The school is enroute to work so we can drop them off without worrying about busing. Now they are being moved to the Pleasant Union which is going to change our commuting option(eg. bus) and the kids will need to re-settle into a new environment, which may be painful for shy third graders. This does not seem to make sense to me, and obviously will have an impact on my children's education as it will take time to adjust. Can you please explain the true reasons behind this re-assignment plan? Is it all about the NCGA class size rules? If so, what more can parents do the help here? Do we all need to be emailing or petitioning the NCGA? I think most people think 15 kids per class is great, but without any funding for new classrooms and teachers it's impossible, and if this assignment plan is the impact of those rules, then I think a lot of parent would help petition against it.

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Meredith Chisholm 3 months ago

My son started as a Freshman at our base Middle Creek HS this year. He applied and was accepted into the STEM Digital Media Academy which is a 4 year program. This proposal would move him to Garner HS. (1) Does the Grandfather policy allow him to stay? I'm not clear whether Garner HS is considered a "new" or "existing" school since it's being reopened after renovations. It sounds like if this is an "existing" school he could apply as a rising 10th grader to stay at Middle Creek HS. (2) Are there any exceptions to grandfather kids who have been accepted into these 4 year STEM programs? Otherwise, all of his hard work to apply/interview was for nothing as Garner HS does not have this program. :-(

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Piyush Patel 3 months ago

My son is in 7th grade at Davis Drive Middle. From our neighborhood there are close to 60 students that attend DDMS. I am very concerned to see that the assigned middle school is changed to East Cary MS which is about 15-20 miles away and it is going to impact such a large number of kids. I strongly hope this is looked at closely and maintain the assigned MS for Olde Carpenter neighborhood as DDMS. I don't see any reason for this change when there are no new middle schools that are coming up in our neighborhood. i have 2 other kids that are on Traditional calendar high school and elementary school, this change would just cause all kinds of disruption for us and other families like mine.

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Amy Bailey 3 months ago

Is there a way siblings can be grandfathered to stay at existing school with rising 5th grader? Especially if the school has space and is not capped? If not I will have children at TWO DIFFERENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS! I am trying to see how there is any stability in doing this to families. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE reconsider the grandfathering policy. Uprooting siblings who are established at current schools is not the answer.

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Suzie Adamsky 3 months ago

I wasn't sure where to post this - it certainly doesn't belong in the new schools forum. We are being told we are moving from a high-performing high school that consistently performs above state average (Middle Creek) to a 'refurbished' school that performs at or below state test averages (Garner HS). Outrageous - and he won't be eligible to be grandfathered in since Garner is considered a new school. It's not that it's inconvenient, or he doesn't know anyone there, it's simply a sub-standard education. He should absolutely be allowed to be grandfathered to Middle Creek - Garner is NOT a new school.

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Natalie Henderson 3 months ago

This would be a good time to ease the burden placed on the Leesville system 3 years ago when WCPSS moved Brier Creek into Leesville Middle and High making (according to your 1st chart) Leesville High the 3rd largest population in the county. You are currently busing students that could walk to Enloe all the way out to Leesville. The families that the magnet schools were intended to benefit are not reaping that benefit, they are instead being bused across town (probably spending at least 2 hours a day on the bus) to a school that is more crowded than their neighborhood school. Assuming these students are being bused for socioeconomic diversity many of the magnet schools that are very close to this node are well below the 40% F&R threshold for magnet status (Enloe 31%, Joyner 20.6%, Underwood 23.1%, Ligon 14.6% and Martin 25.5%). While I realize there are some schools with 80% F&R, WCPSS is asking for more of our tax dollars for more magnet schools while in some cases ignoring the guidelines for what constitutes magnet status.

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Stefani Passey 3 months ago

I do not understand the need for moving Fuquay students around at all. There is not a new school being built here right now and yet this is the 3rd change for my kids in 4 years. It is a change to their application year round school. My son started Kindergarten at West Lake, was transferred to Ballentine where he has been for the past 2 years and now is supposed to go to Herbert Akins next year. This is absolutely crazy. We have not moved once, yet he is on his 3rd school and will be in 3rd grade. It is not good for kids to have no stability. He will now have to change his friends, teachers, administration for the 3rd time. Instead of only being allowed one choice for year round school in Fuquay, we should be given the option of being able to go to Herbert Akins OR Ballentine. It makes no sense to move kids from Ballentine, a school with lowering enrollment numbers every year to a school that has double the amount of kids and is growing every year by taking the overflow kids from Holly Springs. Please consider these changes and allow kids who are already at Ballentine to be able to stay there.

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Samatha Indukuri 3 months ago

It does not make sense to move Wexford neighborhood kids from Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle School. It's definitely not in their best interest as 1. This increases the distance to school from 4 miles to 8 miles, which essentially means spending double the current amount of time on the bus. This assignment is forcing families to send their kids to schools further away from home. 2. Different calendar option. Davis Drive Middle is traditional calendar and East Cary Middle is year round, the application options provided for traditional calendar are all further away than our current base school assignment. So again, this assignment is forcing families to send their kids to schools further away from home, no matter what calendar option they choose. 3.Even if kids currently enrolled in Davis Drive Middle are grandfathered in, taking the neighborhood busing is causing additional strain on families. Overall this proposal is not at all good for our kids. I request the board to please reconsider this proposal and keep Davis Drive Middle as our base option.

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Ana Tschampion 3 months ago

My base elementary school has been changed from Fuquay Varina Elementary School to Herbert Akiens. This would force my son to switch from traditional to year-round, which would create absolute chaos for him and our household, as we have a middle schooler on a traditional schedule. Our work schedules absolutely require him to be at Fuquay elementary on a traditional calendar.

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Siva Papineni 3 months ago

This is regarding the proposal to increase the enrollment of East cary MS impactingkids in subdivisions like Olde carpenter/carpenter/Wexford/Chessington/Cedar bend. I am sure the WCPSS Board must have been aware of the obvious double distance. Just wondering what exactly would make the Board reverse this. If it serves the purpose, we can achieve a 100% opposing signature campaign from all the residents of these subs ?? . Matt Dees/Admin, appreciate any response on what can reverse the proposal

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Matt Dees admin 3 months ago

Staff members will take all feedback into consideration as they produce Draft 2, which will be released on Oct. 17. There then will be additional board discussions and a public hearing prior to final approval.

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Brian Chang 3 months ago

Hi Siva, we do need to be more organized real fast considering how fast they are moving forward. This Saturday at Carpenter club house is what I heard. Please see Bill Fletcher's reply in my post. This is the forum we need to post our concerns so board members can gauge how unpopular they are about to become. Please be prepared to see the same concerns from all home owners. I look forward to see more people take the effort to sign up and chime in.

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Neelima Boinepally 3 months ago

We live in Wexford community. My both kids study in traditional schools (Davis Drive and Green Hope). They are used to traditional calendar right from the beginning. Sudden change of calendar would impact all of us. Also we are not comfortable switching schools. Hope you understand our concern. Hence, I would request you to keep our base school assignment intact. Thanks in advance!

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aparna mukka 3 months ago

We live in Carpenter Village and our base middle school has changed from Davis Middle to East Cary and I would like to request to the Board that the proposal be reconsidered. 1. Davis is a traditional school whereas East Cary is a year-round school, it makes it very difficult for the kids and families who are not used to the year-round calendar and/or have siblings in the traditional schools. 2. Moving the kids to East Cary almost doubles the distance when compared to Davis Middle increasing the commute time for the kids. 3. It seems unreasonable to change the school just because another school has decreased enrollment, since we do not have any new schools in our area. 4. A student should be provided with an alternate traditional base school option 5. East Cary rank 73rd of 670 whereas Davis is 6th of 670 as https://www.schooldigger.com/go/NC/district/04720/search.aspx?level=2, does not make sense to pull kids out of a highly rated school to a school that is rated way below TIA!

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Amy Frazer 3 months ago

Thank you for giving parents a forum for discussion. I know school reassignment is a very difficult task and the new law on class size has made it even more of a challenge. My child has been at Sycamore Creek, his calendar option school, since kindergarten. Our base is Jefferys Grove in our current assignment as well as the proposed assignment plan. Since Jefferys Grove is not allowing transfer students to renew does this mean he will be able to stay at Sycamore Creek?

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Hemali Khare 3 months ago

We share other parents (Gordon, Brian, Andrea, Siva, Claire, Aparna, Neelima, Christina, Piyush) feedback & concern about changing base middle school for Carpenter Village. We bought this home at the first place to get Davis Drive Middle. This uncalled for change is extremely frustrating for us - our daughter is scheduled to go to Davis Drive Middle next year and this sudden change makes these very difficult for us.We know few other families from our neighborhood which will share this concern.

We plan to attend public forum and meetings. Carpenter Village Parents, please do let us know a community meeting is planned.

Khare Family

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Sarath Polireddy 3 months ago

If you are part of a neighborhood that is impacted with this change..Please let your neighbors know and plan to convene a HOA meeting and eventually show up at the draft proposal meeting

####Sept. 27 - Public information session at Holly Grove Middle School, 1401 Avent Ferry Road, Holly Grove, 6:30 p.m.

It is easier to raise our concerns before this is even presented to the board..

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Matt Dees admin 3 months ago

We are just about to announce this, but will go ahead and let you know here that the Holly Grove Middle School meeting date has changed to Oct. 6. Doors will open at 6 p.m. and presentation will begin at 6:30 p.m.

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Danielle Neese 3 months ago

My kids are assigned to traditional base schools Dillard Drive Elementary and Dillard Drive Middle. This proposal takes my kids from a traditional calendar to a year round calendar, something that will NOT work for our family. We plan on buying a home in 2 years and we will have to have them switch schools at that time most likely, something my husband and I had agreed would happen should we buy outside of our base school. Now, my kids may have to switch twice in 2 years because of this proposal AND be forced into a year round base assignment at Adams Elementary and East Cary Middle. I am not happy with either of those school choices based on ratings and what others have told me. Not to mention that my husband and I have jobs that work with our kids traditional calendar. This would be a nightmare for a ton of families. Leave current students in their schools! Grandfather them in and provide transportation to all students. Perhaps maybe only apply this to new Wake County residents when they register their kids. I don't mind providing transportation for my kids if they are allowed to be grandfathered into their current schools. Families that have been established here should not have to shift their lives and kids around like this.

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Siva Papineni 3 months ago

Request all the parents from Carpenter/Olde carpenter/Wexford/Chessington/Cedar Bend who have expressed concerns regarding MS change from Davis Drive to East Cary HS to actively drive more participation from your friends/kids friends/bus stop parents that would be impacted by this proposal. Let us hope the Board would take notice, as Brian suggests

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Lynn Tate 3 months ago

Carpenter Village is an established neighborhood is WEST Cary. New neighborhoods in our area are being assigned to schools within 5-10 minutes of their homes, yet our children are being sent to a school (East Cary) over 25 minutes away with a start time of 7am. There are >6 closer middle schools to our neighborhood. Why can't students in west Raleigh or EAST Cary be assigned to East Cary Middle school? In addition, East Cary is a year round school. Why can't our middle school students attend a traditional calendar school? Is there an alternative?

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Melissa Miller 3 months ago

I see all the comments from those impacted with the base school assignment change from Davis Middle to East Cary. What none of those are addressing is that the traditional calendar option is also changing. The two closest middle schools to my house (Cedar Bend - Bender Ridge Dr) are Davis Middle (current assignment) and Mills Park Middle. Yet the new traditional calendar option is Reedy Creek - which is also further away than West Cary. So since siblings aren't grandathered and I will have a high school student I will need to utilize this option in a year to keep my kids on the same calendar (crazy to want that right?) So why are we being moved to Reedy Creek? Are all the neighborhoods impacted by this Davis Middle switch being assigned the same traditional calendar option? Because that issue doesn't seem to be addressed in the information provided. I'd like to know why if they are switching my traditional calendar option (and not to the one of the two closest schools). I would even be OK if it were to Mills Park Middle, but that isn't what they did, so I would like to understand why. Here the focus was primarily on the new schools, but the Davis Middle change is not being driven by a new school.

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Melissa Miller 3 months ago

I see there is a meeting planned for Oct. 9 - Public information session at the future South Garner High School campus, 8228 Hebron Church Road, Garner. What time is this information session and will it be open to comments / feedback from parents?

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Sushma Ganta 3 months ago

We live in Olde Carpenter, this proposal is absurd, does not make sense at all. The primary reason for us to buy house in this neighborhood is its proximity to DDMS. Our children have after school activities starting at 4pm, for which they have to be home by 3:30. It is stress for the children to ride for 30-40 mins to/from school, totally bad idea. This is the reason we did not apply for magnet school. I would request to please keep our base school assignment as DDMS intact. Thanks in advance.

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Katherine Honeycutt 3 months ago

I'm hoping that the board will reconsider changing the calendar at Lockhart Elementary School in Knightdale from year round to traditional. Parents and teachers were thrilled to hear in May of this year that we would keep our track 4 calendar, only to be blindsided by the announcement this week that we'd become a traditional school in 2018.

Recently our principal informed us that Lockhart received an 81.9% growth rate--the highest in Eastern Wake County and the 24th in all WCPSS elementary schools. Things are working well at Lockhart, why disrupt things? To repeat the cliché, if it’s not broke, don’t fix it! Lockhart families have chosen to remain at a track 4 school rather than applying to our traditional calendar options. We want to be year round. It is the best option for our children.

Seems to me that with the population growth in Knightdale (which was just named #76 in Money Magazine’s top 100 places to live) and eastern Wake County, taking away one of the few year round options would only be hurting families and kids in our area, who tend to already be underserved and academically struggling. All other new schools opening nearby in Eastern Raleigh (Poole Rd Elem and Rogers Ln Elem) will have traditional calendars. Having more year-round options in the eastern part of the county just makes sense, as there will already be mostly traditional schools. If this change is about eliminating single track schools, then perhaps converting Lockhart to a multi-track school would be worth considering, so as to meet the needs of the growing population in eastern Wake County.

Cramming all the year-round preferring families from eastern Wake County into Lake Myra would be harmful to families in Knightdale. It's the opposite direction from most Knightdale families who work in Raleigh (for me it would add 30 minutes to my morning drive and 30 minutes to my evening commute to have to take the kids to Wendell. An hour less every single weekday that I can spend doing more important things, like working, caring for my family, helping with homework, fixing dinner, etc.) This would make it even more difficult for parents who work in Raleigh to be involved in their kids' classrooms if they find that they can't take time off work, get to Lake Myra, participate in activities, and get back to work in a timely fashion.

The later start time at Lake Myra, if my husband and I were to make that transfer to stay on a year round calendar, would mean I'd be later getting to work each day, and possibly would have to consider before AND after care, which makes for a very long day for my kids, as well as an extra expense.

My son will start at Lockhart in 2018. With two kids needing childcare for an entire traditional calendar summer, our family will spend thousands, since I’m unable to just take summers off. Whereas between local grandparents and the ability to use time off from my job briefly during track-outs, we'd spend nothing if Lockhart remains year round.

While I understand the thinking behind making all the feeder schools to East Wake Middle traditional if East Wake becomes traditional, I know most parents would rather keep their elementary students on the year round schedule and see them make the change to a traditional calendar when they make the transition to sixth grade, which is such a huge change anyways, the new calendar would hardly be noticeable! Besides, there are many other area schools with traditional calendars that parents could chose if they prefer. In fact, you can see one of those choices from Lockhart's parking lot (Forestville Elementary).

In the past several months as I've had to consider what my family will do should this disruption in our school's calendar go into effect, I've grown increasingly fearful not just for the difficulty it could pose for my own children (like switching out of a school we love and having to go to before AND after school care) but also for the probable future of a great little school, Lockhart Elementary. Volunteering throughout last year in my daughter's kindergarten class, I became aware that many of her peers have absolutely NO academic support from parents at home. I fear that forcing out all the families who CHOSE Lockhart BECAUSE it is year-round will cause an academic, parental involvement, and leadership vacuum at Lockhart that will seriously damage the outlook for the students remaining there.

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Kathy Morrisey 3 months ago

My inquiry is related to two of my children. One child will be a rising 4th grader at Baucom and the other will be a rising 7th grader at Apex Middle School during the 2018-2019 school year. Baucom and AMS are our calendar traditional option and Salem is our year round option. We are in the Haddon Hall neighborhood that has fought to keep Baucom and Apex Middle as our calendar option schools. Thankfully, nothing has changed related to our children's school options. However, it is unclear to me and many of my neighbors if we will be required to go through the transfer process again to allow them to be rising 7th graders. Something that was already done by many of us last year for AMS. If so, will we be approved. How does this proposal affect us? Will we have transportation? It is all very unclear. Clarity would be very helpful.

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Jennifer Coffey 3 months ago

I am the PTA Treasurer at Vandora Springs Elementary in Garner. My daughter is in 2nd grade this year. We absolutely love Vandora and are as involved in the school community as possible. I was literally in tears when I saw that my daughter has been reassigned to Timber Drive Elementary in the draft of the enrollment proposal for the 2018-2019 school year. I know Timber Drive is a great school, but that is not the issue. It never entered my mind that we would be districted to another school, because we live in Edgebrook subdivision, which is right beside Vandora Springs Elementary. We hear the noise from the construction of the new building from inside our house! I visited Vandora Springs before we bought our house because my daughter would be entering kindergarten that fall, and I wanted to make sure the school was a good fit for her before we closed. I was impressed from the very beginning, and could tell that Vandora was a place that provided solid academic instruction, respected diversity, loved children, and valued family involvement. I planned to participate in the life of the school for 10 years-until my youngest child finishes 5th grade. My daughter has a sense of security and belonging at her school that helps her to be successful as a student. I understand that many factors go into decisions about school assignments. It is a difficult process, especially with a new elementary school opening in the area. I also understand that this is the first draft, and changes can be made. I would like my voice to be heard. I am not interested in having my children attend Timber Drive simply because it is a year-round school. We prefer the traditional calendar. I do not want my children to ride a bus to Creech Road Elementary School when we can WALK to Vandora Springs Elementary in less than 10 minutes, and often do. If we choose to drive, it takes 1.5 minutes to go from our driveway to the school parking lot. Having children attend schools in their own neighborhoods builds friendships and a strong sense of community. It allows parents to be more involved, because the school is close to home. I strongly urge you to consider allowing the children in Edgebrook subdivision to continue to attend Vandora Springs Elementary. Respectfully, Jennifer Coffey

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Kaitlyn Chang 3 months ago

Parents from David Drive Middle, please read this page 34 (file page 32) of:

http://www.wcpss.net/cms/lib/NC01911451/Centricity/Domain/6073/StudentEnrollmentProposal-1.pdf

Since the most common question posted - "why are they busing our kids across town to East Cary" is not answered. I look closer on their presentation.

Their "so called" reason for making the change is low enrollment rate of East Cary Middle. However, their plan not only doesn't fix this problem but also create new problems.

Base on current stats and projection on their presentation:

Without their proposed changes - 2020-21 Utilization with trailer at Davis Drive MS is 87%, East Cary MS is 81%. With proposed changes - 2020-21 Utilization with trailer at Davis Drive MS is 69%, East Cary MS is 110%.

There are many problems that this proposal is creating: 1) East Cary MS will be very overcrowded at 110% by busing students across town. 2) Davis Drive MS will be under-enrolled at 69% !!!

Since this is obviously a problem, it makes me wonder what the REAL REASON for making the changes. It's definitely not serving STUDENT'S BEST INTEREST. It's as if they are making room right now all because they already have a "fix" for DDMS's FUTURE LOW ATTENDENCE. Nobody should be surprised if we once again see that they propose adding an area of THEIR CHOOSING into Davis Drive MS. When that happens, we need to stay on top of any assignment changes so we are not sacrificed to allow someone to benefit and profit from this shuffling. Anyone who abuses their position should be held accountable if there is any evidence of wrong doing or conflict of interest.

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Julian Pizzo 3 months ago

We have heard that many new developments are being sold as DDMS, so basically they are trying to push us out to make room for people who don't even live here yet.

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Alicia Smith 2 months ago

Hi Julian! Several schools in Western Wake County are capped - Mills Park, Panther Creek, etc. A cap on new enrollment could help solve the assignment problem at DDMS... and for Carpenter Village residents - do you think? As new neighborhoods are built, those residents would be assigned to schools that 1-) have capacity and 2-) meet other WCPSS requirements. I suspect that the distance from those new neighborhoods isn't radically different from Carpenter Village AND offers a benefit to both. Carpenter Village would maintain it's historical path at Davis Drive where community, carpools and shared experiences exist. Assigning entire NEW neighborhoods to what would be NEW school for them provides similar opportunities for involvement, community leadership and relationship building/support.

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Kasey Yulfo 3 months ago

I can't figure out why opening a middle school in Apex is changing our middle school assignment in Knightdale. There is no freaking way that I would willingly send any of my children to our newly assigned middle school without a personal bodyguard. I would move out of state first. Since the child that I currently have in middle school will be in high school next year and my elementary school student is only in 3rd grade this year, I'm hoping that you'll either change the proposal or change the zoning again before I have to make that choice for her. Why would you zone us for a year-round middle school when our elementary and high schools are traditional? We did year-round for one year and I'll never do it again if I can prevent it. Even if this school was traditional, though, I would never send my kids there.

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Joseph Franchina 3 months ago

As a resident of Carpenter Village, I am very concerned about the proposed change of our base middle school from Davis Drive to East Cary. Not only is East Cary MS twice as far away and will take 30 minutes each way: in order to get the bus, my kids will need to get up at 5 AM in order to catch a 6 AM bus. This is not a reasonable expectation for kids at this age. Please consider changing our base school to one of the closer alternatives like Davis Drive or Mills Park.

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kim perez 3 months ago

Hello, We are residents of Carpenter Village, and are in the zone of proposed reassignment for our base Middle School from Davis Drive to East Cary or Reedy Creek. We have a current 6th grader and 8th grader attending Davis Drive, and need for this proposal to be reconsidered for the following reasons. If this proposal goes into effect, the length of the grandfather clause has not been stipulated, which could mean that my youngest could be attending Davis for 7th grade and then either East Cary or Reedy Creek for only his 8th grade year. This goes against the stability pillar of the County. Our community has had 4 reassignments in the past 10 years, which also goes against the County's stability pillar. The location of no less that 3 other Middle Schools closer to our community than either Reedy Creek or East Cary, goes against the County's proximity pillar. With the opening of Alston Ridge in 2019, and its assignment zone pending, Carpenter Village should be left as is until the assignment zones for the new school are defined and its impact is determined. Please take these thoughts into consideration. Thank you, Kim Perez

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Amanda Potocky 3 months ago

I am a parent in Carpenter Village and I would like to add my voice to the people opposed to the change in middle school assignment from Davis Drive to East Cary Middle. I checked the travel time at 9pm on a Sunday night and the travel time from my home to DDMS is 7 minutes, while it is 16 minutes to ECMS. This obviously corresponds to the noted mileage differences already noted. In addition, 5 Middle schools currently open (Mills Park - 4.5 miles, Davis Drive 5.2 miles, West Cary 5.5 Miles, Salem 5.9 miles, Apex 7.5 miles), 6 including Alston Ridge MS (4 miles) opening in 2019, are closer both via mileage and drive time than either ECMS (7.9 miles) or Reedy Creek MS (the Traditional application option in the new proposal, 7.3 miles, 14 minutes). Based on this information, the pillar of Proximity does not appear to apply to this change.

This proposed change is the 4th assignment change in just over 10 years for Carpenter Village, which does not inspire confidence in the pillar of Stability. If the argument is for stability of calendar, then Salem MS, which is also YR, would be a more proximal solution.

I would finally like to address a variation on Operational Efficiency - not related to the capacity arguments already covered by others, but related to the opening of Alston Ridge Middle School in 2019 - Carpenter Village and surrounding communities will be in the near neighborhoods to this new school - would it not be more efficient to wait until the 2019 reassignments required by the opening of the new school to assess the most appropriate moves for these neighborhoods, rather than shifting West Cary neighborhood assignments in repeated years?

Please reconsider the assignment of Carpenter Village to a different middle school at this time.

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Justin Enoch 3 months ago

I am a parent of 4 children in Carpenter Village. The proposed change of our middle school assignment from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle would drastically impact our family. As some of the other parents have already noted, East Cary Middle is almost twice as far away as Davis Drive mileage wise, and due to the congestion in that side of Cary, it will be even longer with traffic. This will not only cause our children to have to wake up earlier to catch the bus each morning, this will also impact our involvement as parents in school activities, PTA, etc. which is important as well.

This change also impacts our family stability. We have 4 children: 1 at Green Hope High, 2 at Davis Drive Middle, and 1 at Green Hope Elementary. As you know, all of these schools are on a traditional calendar schedule. This proposed rezoning would have all of our children on different schedules if our middle daughters are changed to East Cary Middle School. This would make it very difficult for us to function as a family in terms of scheduling activities, childcare during break, family vacations, etc.

And in terms of stability, we would prefer that all of our children are able to attend the same school as we already know the teachers, administration, etc. We also understand that there will be a new school, Alston Ridge Middle School opening in 2019, which may lead to further reshuffling and changes in a couple of years. I hope you don't make any changes and instead ask new neighborhoods to go to East Cary, but at least wait until 2019 when the new school opens and re-evaluate at that time.

Thank you, Justin Enoch

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Keisha Burdick 3 months ago

I am a parent in Carpenter Village and like others, I urge the board to reconsider the proposed reassignment for our neighborhood from Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle. For me, the most concerning part of the reassignment is that it does not adhere to the "proximity" pillar. We want to be part of the school community, to volunteer, and have our children participate in after school activities. Sending our children to a school so much further from our home (twice the distance of several other middle schools, including Davis Drive) will make it incredibly difficult for our family to engage with the school in the way we'd like.

Additionally, the number of changes to middle school assignments for our neighborhood (this would be the fourth assignment in the past 10 years) does not suggest the stability that the board - and we, as parents, value. Particularly as we know that another middle school will be opening in the next couple of years that will require additional reassignments.

Please reconsider this reassignment. Thank you.

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Caterina Gallippi 3 months ago

I strongly oppose reassigning students in Carpenter Village from Davis Drive to East Cary Middle School for several reasons. First, Alston Ridge Middle School is scheduled to open in 2019, at which point it is reasonable to consider that best operational efficiency would be achieved by assigning students in Carpenter Village to Alston Ridge Middle School. If Carpenter Village students are assigned to Alston Ridge Middle School when it opens, then the Carpenter Village students will be again moved to a different middle school. This is not in support of overall stability for the children and families in Carpenter Village, especially considering that Carpenter Village students and families have already experienced 3 different middle school assignments since 2006. Second, reassigning Carpenter Village students to East Cary Middle School would not meet the current board priority of assigning children to school within reasonable proximity of their homes. This would severely strain student well being and reasonable family schedule management for families in Carpenter Village. To travel to the other side of Cary for a 7:00 AM start to the school day, Carpenter Village students would need to be on the bus at close to 6:00 AM, and would need to wake up at 5:00 AM. Data has shown that such early morning schedules are unhealthy and counter productive for the education of adolescents. Further, considering that most families have multiple children spanning high, middle, and/or elementary school, families in Carpenter Village will be hard pressed to integrate such an early schedule with the demands of other children's school schedules. Re-assigning Carpenter Village students to East Cary Middle School would have serious and far-reaching ill consequences for the many families in Carpenter Village, and this proposal should not be approved.

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Lakshmi Ganesan 3 months ago

I live in Cedar Bend subdivision. I know I bought house in this neighborhood only because my kids wanted to continue to go to Davis Drive middle. Like me many parents came to this subdivision only looking at the schools assigned. For children stability is really important. Not only the children who go to a particular school get attached with the teachers and staff there but hearing their stories everyday even the siblings form that bonding. They even wish that they should get the exact same teachers like their older ones. Reassigning the schools is hurting the children the most. Since this proposal came out every day dinner table talk is whether the kids will be able to go to Davis Drive like everybody else. The kids have not been moved to East Cary yet but yes they have been affected by this proposal itself. I am sure everybody in the board is aware of the proximity issue. East Cary middle and Reddy Creek are the farthest schools from all these subdivisions. And you are aware that people bought houses in these neighborhood, so that their kids could go to these schools. My question to you all is before putting this proposal was this point taken into consideration how it’s going to emotionally affect these kids? How they will get emotionally disturbed? Even if children who are already going are grandfathered, suddenly the plan of carpooling them how much stress will that create in each family every day. Instability is a biggest stress creator in a child’s life, a child will not perform well academically. As teachers everyone is aware of it. I request the school board not to create instability in all these children life by this reassignment.

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Krishna nimmalrama 3 months ago

Please consider rezoning our neighborhood to align with the current feeder schools and to improve proximity. We currently under Davis Drive middle school but are zoned for a East Cary Middle Schoool school which is twice as far mileage and three times as far time wise as our closer high school (Cary). This increases time on buses, decreases parent involvement and the ability for children to be involved in extracurricular activities. I ask you to reconsider and Please keep Davis Drive as middle school. Thank you.

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Krishna nimmalrama 3 months ago

Please consider rezoning our neighborhood to align with the current feeder schools and to improve proximity. We currently under Davis Drive middle school but are zoned for a East Cary Middle Schoool school which is twice as far mileage and three times as far time wise as our closer high school (Green Hope High School-Cary). This increases time on buses, decreases parent involvement and the ability for children to be involved in extracurricular activities. I ask you to reconsider and Please keep Davis Drive as middle school. Thank you.

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Heather Swanson 3 months ago

Thank you for providing this online forum for parents. To WCPSS parents, this is a confusing and frustrating time, and resources like this forum are much appreciated. My third grader attends Sycamore Creek (which we love and hope very much to continue to attend), but our base is Jeffreys Grove ES. Jeffreys Grove is currently proposing not to renew transfers for transfer students currently attending their school. It would not make any sense to force my son to leave SCES and enter Jeffreys Grove, as he would essentially be taking the place of a current Jeffreys Grove student who was likewise forced to leave his/her current school to make room for my son. Are scenarios like this being evaluated closely? Thank you for your time.

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Anne Horton 3 months ago

I live in Carpenter Village in Cary. It is proposed that our MS would be rezoned from the nearby Davis Drive MS to the much farther away East Cary. I oppose this proposed rezoning for several reasons: 1. It is significantly farther away - there are SIX other MS that are closer than East Cary. Our kids would have to get up at 5am in order to catch the bus to get there. All studies show that middle schoolers need their sleep in order to function optimally and learn efficiently. This change would put our children's health and education at risk. Also, many of us are working parents who want to be involved with and volunteer at the school, but the distance makes this much more difficult. In addition, such a distance means more time on the school bus and we all know that school busses are not great environments for our kids, plus I can only imagine the cost of bussing for longer distances. 2. Stability - Carpenter Village has been reassigned 4 times in 10 years. This is very destabilizing for kids and families. Kids need a stable environment to maximize learning. You will be causing anxiety and undue stress to these kids - in addition to the lack of sleep mentioned above. I cannot see how this change is in the best interests of our children. 3. There is significant growth occurring in West Cary, several new neighborhoods are being built , as well as, a new MS, Alston Ridge MS, that is set to open in 2019. This means that a re-zoning will be likely again in just 2 years. How does this meet the goals of proximity, stability, and efficiency that the Board itself has established?

All of these changes put the most important School Board goal, Student Achievement, at risk. Please do not zone CV to go to ECMS

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Julie Nash 3 months ago

I ask that you please reconsider reassigning Carpenter Village to East Cary Middle School from Davis Drive Middle School at this time. As I am certain you realize, Carpenter Village has had four reassignments in just more than10 years. At the same time, East Cary is much farther away from our neighborhood than five middle schools (six once Alston Ridge MS opens in 2019). This will create long bus rides for our kids and will pull them away from their community. This seems unnecessary. My daughter will be a rising sixth grader when this change is scheduled to go into affect. With my work schedule and her after school activities, having her so far away from our house and community would not be ideal -- especially when there are many closer options. I suggest that the school board wait until Alston Ridge MS opens to make a decision about moving Carpenter Village to a different middle school. It would seem that our neighborhood would be impacted again with this school opening and that reassignment would make a lot more sense.

Please consider our requests and do not reassign Carpenter Village at this time. Thank you!

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Sukanya Banik 3 months ago

We are Carpenter Village neighborhood residents and love it here. I have a middle schooler who is DDMS 6th grade. We are totally devastated by this reassignment and my child is literally in tears when we mentioned about the probably change. With a frequent location changing job , it was very hard on our children for the frequent moves. We switched jobs and had moved on the neighborhood with a promise in our heart that we will do whatever possible on our part give a more stable path ahead to our children. It tears us apart to see that we will not be able to keep our promise after all. With that being said, other facts which do not rationalize this move from DDMS to ECMS which has been sited by several above and I would like to re-emphasize. Stabilility is a key in our children's life. With the frequent changes in the school assignments affect our lives deeply and root uncertainity and depression in our children. A school is mich much more than educational building where they spend a few hours. They forge lifetime relationships and carve out personalities. Please treat this as a very sensitive issue. There are 5 (+1 with Alston Ridge) other middle schools between DDMS and ECMS. If this reassignment happens then the children will have to travel close to 45 mins each way. This is highly undesirable. Carpenter Village has 4 reassignments in the last few years. Why is the neighborhood so unstable in school assignments. As town residents, we are ready to partner with the county to work out options and move forward together in a way so that the children's interest are best taken care of. thanks and hoping for the best

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KM MS 3 months ago

We debated for over a year before choosing to move from an apartment in Chapel Hill to a townhouse in Carpenter Village in Cary, despite the fact that living in Cary would allow us to have a house, back yard and nearby park that we couldn't afford in CH. Why were we so reluctant? Because we'd heard what a mess the school assignments were. And lo and behold, within THREE WEEKS of moving to Cary, we were told that our middle school might be reassigned.

People with kids choose where to live largely based on schools because we care about our children's education. There are few things more important. Cary now has a reputation, which is a shame because it is otherwise so fantastic in so many ways! We really do not want to rise at a crazy hour of the morning to drive halfway across town to take our kids (who will be perpetually exhausted!) to a school of unknown quality. If we are going to drive that far anyway, we might as well "flee"' to a magnet school.

I feel you are damaging the reputation and stability of your otherwise terrific town and will start to have more and more trouble attracting well-educated, hard-working people to live here, which will affect overall quality of the whole place. Please find a better way to deal with this problem. At the very, VERY least, please grandfather in people who have already registered with the school system (regardless of the age of their children) before the change goes through, so that people choosing to move here can know what to expect.

Thank you.

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Jyothi Sakthikumaran 3 months ago

I live in Carpenter Village and changing the middle school from Davis Drive to ECMS doesn't make any sense. Despite the distance and the busy traffic, kids would be losing sleep time, thereby unable to focus at school and also getting lesser time to focus on their academics and homework once they are back from school. Please consider these reasons and keep DDMS as the assigned middle school with ECMS as a calendar option.

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Praveen Juvvadi 3 months ago

I am a resident in Cedar Bend Community on Bender Ridge Drive. Just as other parents have voiced their concerns, this new proposed reassignment for 2018 to East Cary Middle is a shock and very disheartening to my family. I am completely against this proposal and request the board to reconsider this reassignment. I moved from Durham to Cary in 2014 to join my children into the school of our choice. I ended up spending all my savings to buy a home in the appropriate community/school district, so my kids would go to the school of our choice. I have two children going to Davis Drive Middle School. We particularly chose a traditional calendar due to our personal and job circumstances. This reassignment goes completely against our selection of a good school in proximity to our home. This is such a disadvantage in terms of distance and time that would have a grave impact on my children’s daily activities. As they are forced to change schools (especially from a high rated school) it will obviously affect their thought process and stability. They have made friends, attend clubs, are in Davis Drive band, have teachers with whom they have established good relationship at the present school and this proposed change next year is not at all going to provide a healthy environment for the kids. Moreover, these are the prime years of their education and no parent would like to disturb their good ongoing child’s education by changing schools simply because the county board wants it. I completely understand that the county board has its own opinions, views etc., but this is not at all logical to send a kid to another school that is much farther away, rated low, and bestow more hardship for the child both physically and mentally. This would negatively impact my children and therefore, I strongly urge the board to please understand my concerns and let my children to continue in their present school and remain on the traditional calendar. Thank you.

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Ranga Pedamallu 3 months ago

As a resident of Cedar Bend community, I strongly oppose the proposed change from Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary. The distance to the school is doubled and there are several other middle schools that are in the proximity. The additional distance will cause trouble to both the children and parents. A lot of parents work in RTP and driving to East Cary esp in peak traffic hours will be a nightmare for either dropoffs/pickups or participating in PTO activities. Additionally after school activities will be effected as well. The stability of children is another issue. They are not happy with the fact that they are suddenly losing the chance to go to a school of their choice and losing their friends from elementary school. I am against this proposal. Please consider keeping DDMS as the base assigned middle school for us.

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Prakash Nanna 3 months ago

I am totally against the reassignment of Davis Drive middle school to East Cary proposal. I am from cedar bend Community, I have 1 kids who is going Elementary school, which is 4 minutes distance from my house. The East Cary school distance from my house is 35 mins drive, she needs to get up early morning by 5 am to get ready for school and i don't want her to spend more than 2 hrs in a day on school bus. She would rather spend this valuable time in extra curricular activities. This is not that i expected, when i bought my house. I am totally disappointed with this proposal.

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Aritha Juvvadi 3 months ago

I live in Cedar Bend community and it is reassigned from Davis Drive middle school to must farther East Cary middle School .We have bought the house just because we wanted to send our children to Davis Drive MS East Cary is more than twice as far away from our home as Davis Drive, It will be challenging for the kids to drive to the school every day and it will be hard for us to volunteer with the PTA . I would request to please keep Davis Drive Middle as our base middle school

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Swathi Byrichetty 3 months ago

I am very disappointed on the proposed base school change for our community Cedar Bend from Davis Drive Middle school to East cary middle school. On many fronts this is not a move in right direction because

  1. I have my son who is in 5th grade this year and is very eager to join next year many of his neighborhood friends at DDMs. Many families bought a house in this neighborhood due to the fact that DDMS was the base school. This change will not only emotionally hurt but will hurt financially (unable to sell home and fetch decent market price) so many hard working families and made his proposed change will affect neighborhood

  2. We have two kids and having one in traditional calendar and another in year round is very challenging as both of us work. It is very hard to maintain balance between work and being at home for kids. Changing from traditional calendar school to year round school will cause lot of hardship and inconvenience for most of families who have one of their kid in traditional school of green hope elementary or weather stone elementary. This will cause lot of work schedule conflicts as well as vacation planning conflicts for both working parents. This will result in less family fun times even for kids.

  3. Travel time to school. The school is far from where we r located cedar bend community, which parents will not able to do any volunteer work as it will take 35 to 40 min during working hours.

4.When kids enter into middle School it's really important for them to have their own friend group at school. Not everyone is easily accepted into a group. Middle School its really important for them to stay with their elementary friends group.

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xiaoling wang 3 months ago

My neighborhood, Legacy at Carpenter Village, is reassigned from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle in this draft. My daughter will be in middle school pretty soon, and we have been looking forward to sending her to Davis Drive for its proximity to our home and traditional calendar. First, my daughter has all the after-school activities, such as dancing class, soccer, tennis, etc., near our home and Davis Drive. She already formed good friends, teams and connections here. If she goes to ECMS, the long distance will make it challenging to attend all these activities. She will miss a lot of her friends in that case. Second, as parents, it will be harder for us to volunteer at school and attend school activities because we need travel longer to there. We will become less involved. So I hope you will keep our base school at DDMS.

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Suresh Jayaraman 3 months ago

I am from Cedar Bend community on Bender Ridge Drive, Morrisville. We are deeply concered with new proposed reassignment for 2018 to East Cary Middle. This is not only my concern.Many parents who lives in our community has the same concerns. Below are basic necessary facts that need to be considered buts it is hurting us very much that none of these were considered.

1) Promimity of the scool from our home location. i.e Cedar Bend community on Bender Ridge Drive. 2) Stability of the kids due to the fact that EAST cary Middle is very far away and children will be moved away from where they are currently assigned to.Reassigning the schools is hurting the children the most and they have already expressed their concerns. We do not want our kids to keep thinking about this. 3) Mental and Physical pressure to kids especially if they have to spend 2 hours a day on a school bus and getting up 5am in the morning for this very reason. This is not a reasonable expectation for kids at this age. 4) Current Extracurricular activities for the kids gets affected as under the new proposal they spend most valuable time just travelling to school. 5) Davis is a traditional school whereas East Cary is a year-round school, it makes it very difficult for kids to get adjusted to this change.

I am not sure how you proposed this assignment with out considering these facts OR you have considered all of these and yet simply ignored it.It's definitely not serving children's best interest. Many parents including me bought the house just because we wanted to send our children to Davis Drive MS due to the close promimity and less travel for kids and by proposing this change you are making every day a nightmare to all of us. We have invested a lot of Money, time and effort while planing to buy the home and Davis drive Middle school's promimity played an important role in that. We have never thought or planned about this day. I strongly urge the board to please understand my and all the parents concerns in our cedar bend subdivision and let our children to continue in their present school.

Please consider keeping DDMS as the base assigned middle school for us.

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Justin Enoch 3 months ago

As a parent in Carpenter Village, I wanted to add an additional comment as I thought about this some more. This change to move my children from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle will also have a negative effect on the community. School is not just a place for our children to receive an education, but it is also a place for them to become social with friends, activities and also for parent involvement in school activities. I've previously coached my children's t-ball and softball teams, and the first questions the players ask each other is "do you go to my school?" By having us move to East Cary, you are almost guaranteeing that they will be participating in activities with no one from their school, because we live and "do life" in West Cary, not East Cary. This can create a sense of isolation and additional stress for the students. My 6th grade daughter was already in tears at the thought of having to go to a new school and re-adjust, and try to meet new friends. This does not uphold the "stability" pillar you list as a priority.

Even on Friday of this week for an early release day, it is tradition that the students from Davis Drive go to Stone Creek Village to hang out with their friends. My 2 daughters will be there because I work from home and can pick them up in less than 10 minutes. The "proximity" pillar does not only apply to the distance the bus has to travel, but it will have an impact on our children's sense of community and them being able to go to school with people they also live and play with. This will not be possible if they are moved to East Cary Middle. Please take into account all of the intangible factors as well that result from uprooting an established neighboorhood/community and sending their children to the other side of town.

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Sundeep Sonty 3 months ago

I am a resident of Cedar Bend Community and I strongly oppose for the proposal to change the middle school assignment from DDMS to East Cary. I oppose for the following reasons: 1. The distance has doubled to what I need to travel to our current assignment DDMS. The roads from my home to the proposed East Cary have high traffic during peak hours. I work in RTP area and make it more difficult if I need to drive to school for pick up or drop off. 2. The top most criteria for me when I was purchasing my home was the school assignment. With this proposal, my home value or the rental value will go down and this is not what I was expecting when we purchased our home. I request you to reconsider this proposal and keep DDMS as the base assigned middle school for us.

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GC Haisty 3 months ago

We live in Carpenter Village. This proposal changes our neighborhood middle school from Davis Drive to East Cary Middle School, which is more than twice as far from our house as Davis Drive is. There are at least four middle schools closer, if not more.

Moving Carpenter Village to East Cary Middle would create a hardship on residents and children for these reasons:

1) Sleep. Children need it. The traffic in Cary is miserable. Bussing our kids twice as far as they need to go during rush hour traffic takes away valuable sleep time in the morning and valuable homework time in the afternoon.

2) Community involvement. We live on the west side of Cary. I have never even driven past East Cary Middle School, and I've lived in Cary for seven years. The west side of Cary is where we live, work, play, and participate. The further isolated we are from the middle school, the harder it will be to contribute to the school for the benefit of all students.

3) Calendar. We are stuck with a year-round elementary school. We have done our part. We would greatly appreciate continuing to at least have a traditional calendar middle school. This system must be more fair and more just in treatment.

In closing, I ask you to reconsider. Please keep Davis Drive as the Carpenter Village base school with East Cary as a calendar option.

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Laura Costa 3 months ago

I am a Carpenter Village resident and a parent to 2 children who attend Wake County Schools. I am asking you to please reconsider changing our assigned middle school from Davis Drive to East Cary. I am strongly opposed to this change for a multitude of reasons...

1) Proximity - East Cary is twice the distance as Davis but more importantly it would take at least 3x's the amount of time to get to that area of town in the morning and after school. My daughter will go from a neighborhood elementary school with a start time of 9:15 to a crosstown middle school that starts at 7:00 AM. This would require her to wake up almost 3 hours earlier (at 5:00 AM) than what she is doing now so she can catch a bus at 6:00 AM. There are at least 5 other middle schools closer with a new middle school slated to open at Alston Ridge in 2019 (which would be closer to our home than any other schools). I live in Western Wake County and both my husband and I work even further West....we choose to live here because of our ability to head west for work. We choose doctors, tutors, orthodontists, after school activities all on the West side of town because this is the only way we can balance our work schedules with the needs of our children.

2) I am now faced with the challenge of having 2 middle school kids on 2 different instructional calendars. This does not make my family efficient or stable. My older daughter could be grandfathered at DDMS but since you are not allowing siblings to be grandfathered that would leave us with having to move to the year round schedule of East Cary or the traditional option of Reedy Creek (which is no difference in proximity). With so many of us having children that span multiple grades (elementary, middle and high school) you would be asking us to flex between traditional and year round schedules - that is quite a burden to ask of families. We too want stability, proximity and operational efficiency in how we manage our family unit.

I don't find anything redeeming about increasing the time our children are on a bus - this increased commute distance would essentially limit my children from any type of after school activity. It would decrease my involvement as a parent. I would not feel invested in that school.

I am asking this board to at least think about stability for our children and delay moving us from DDMS until after Alston Ridge middle has opened and the middle school needs of Western Wake county have better identified I urge you to really think about the impact at the family level.....

Thank you

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James Wang 3 months ago

I am a parent who are living in Carpenter village. I strongly oppose the proposal to change the middle school from Davis Drive to East Cary Middle school. This will has negative impact on my kids' community involvement. We live in West Cary. This change makes it very hard for my kids to get better involved in both West or East Cary. The distance from our home to school is more than doubled. It will build a lot more pressure on both kids and parents for spending an extra hours on the road to the school. Please reconsider the proposal and keep Davis Drive as the Carpenter Village base school.

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Lezley Kennison 3 months ago

We are Carpenter Village residents that will be affected by the proposed change from DDMS to ECMS. Our oldest child is in 7th grade and we chose DDMS for its proximity to our neighborhood. It was a major decision for our family to accept two different calendar schedules for 3 years. The latest proposal suggests our family may be on two different calendar schedules for 6 years which is unfathomable. Our youngest child will go to middle school in 2 years and the instability is quite alarming. Carpenter Village has had 4 reassignments in just over 10 years. Middle school is a hard transition for any child and these proposals of continuous change that far too often involve Carpenter Village neighborhood put unnecessary stress on our children. Stability and established paths create a road of confidence for these children which is truly needed with all the other obstacles that come their way. Please keep Davis Drive Middle as Carpenter Village's base middle school, with East Cary as year around option.

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Sunita Palnati 3 months ago

This reassignment of East Cary Middle School as base school is very concerning and disturbing for us as we are at a loss. For us it is not just quality of education that matters, it is also the time and material spent on that quality of education. We have moved to Morrisville, NC from New York / New Jersey considering the fact that Wake County has exceptional school ratings. Bender Ridge Drive (Cedar Bend) has assignment of the very good base schools around and we were very content with our choice of home purchase. We have a Kindergartner and a preschooler at home and are looking forward to give them the best education with fewer hassles and less stress.

1) This reassignment of base middle school to East Cary Middle school, involves a lot of travel time for us adults and the kids. And we are not happy that the kids will end up spending more than an hour travelling to and fro. This is a very unpleasant experience for a school going kid. And we adults have to chase the traffic to and fro and have to make several adjustments in our work timings to accommodate other activities for kids, which are not always granted by the employers.

2) We settled to a Year Round calendar (Carpenter ES) elementary school just for the fact that our Kid is close to our home and not travelling a lot, so we are always available to her when in need. We were very hopeful of at least getting into Davis Drive Middle School when the time arrives, but we are at loss with this reassignment and it is disheartening.

3) As Carpenter Elementary flows into DDMS, I was very positive that my kid will grow up with her group of friends from elementary, who know her very well. It is very important for a middle schooler to stay with their group of friends. It is not always easy for a middle schooler to make new friends easily, as they have their choices and opinions framed out by that time and not every kid is easily acceptable into a group.

4) It is a very competitive world out there demanding more from the young individuals. We believe in offering kids equal amount of time for play and study. With this reassignment, I do not anticipate that happening as they will spend a lot of time in travelling to school and coming back to homework or tuitions and less play time or less extra-curricular activities. This kind of setting is not a healthy environment for the kids to thrive as they have to constantly shift their focus from one activity to other just to accommodate everything in their 16 hour window of which close to 2 hours will be spent travelling. They will lead a mechanical life, which is not what we want to offer our kids. With all this, Family time is definitely lost.

5) What do you expect of a parent already driving 40 miles to react to this reassignment? We chose to stay where we are, because we have very good school assignments. I am not ready to accept the fact that my kids will start to live a life of school travel, which is hurting mentally and physically.

We are hoping that you would reconsider to not make ECMS as base middle school, rather, keep ECMS as a calendar option for those who like to go there. We are happy with DDMS as our base middle school. Please do not take away DDMS from us.

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Xiangwu Zhang 3 months ago

My daughter is going to attend middle school. According to the proposal, my neighborhood (Legacy at Carpenter Village) will be reassigned from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle. That will create significant difficulties for our life. We have planned her after school activities around Davis Davis Middle. She actually has been participating in these activities, and she just wants to continue them after staring middle school. East Cary Middle is so far away. Going to East Cary Middle means that she will have to miss all these after school activities.

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Sandhya Manjunath 3 months ago

I am a Cedar Bend resident that will be affected by the proposed change from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle. This change to move from DDMS to ECMS will also definitely have a negative effect in the community. This concern is shared by many parents who live in Cedar Bend community for the same reasons as stated above in this thread. To reiterate:

1) Proximity of the school from my neighborhood. The fact that it will take more than twice as long to get back and to from the school is quite concerning. If parents want to be part of PTA activities and extra curricular activities for kids will be impacted.

2) Stability of the children's emotions due to losing their friends, teachers can be quite traumatic. Many kids in our neighborhood have siblings attending DDMS and this will be quite a devastating turn of events for them.

3) Children need their sleep and time and this proposed move to ECMS is only going to make this worse. The fact that they will spend less time in home due to traffic both in the morning and evening time will cut into their precious times to spend with their family.

4) Calendar: We want to keep DDMS as this is a traditional calendar school and ECMS is a year round. This will have direct, negative impact on the children who are used to the traditional calendar.

In closing, please reconsider keeping DDMS as our base school. Please do not take away DDMS from us.

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Ramaiah Kotra 3 months ago

I live in Cedar Bend community and I am opposed to the proposed change of middle school from Davis Drive Middle School (DDMS) to East Cary Middle School for our neighborhood. I agree with many people who have raised concerns related to this move and I personally feel this move is not a move in right direction for the families because

  1. Inconvenience and stressful to kids and parents                 We have two kids. One is in traditional school and my elder one next year will be going to middle school. With this change, we will have one in traditional calendar and another in year round. This is very challenging as both of us work. It is very hard to maintain balance between work and being at home for kids.  So changing from traditional calendar school of DDMS to year round school will cause lot of hardship and inconvenience for families like us who have one of their kid in traditional school of green hope elementary or weather stone elementary.  This will cause lot of work schedule conflicts as well as vacation planning conflicts for both working parents. This will result in less family fun times for kids and will lead to increased stress on parents.  
  2. Far from where we live                 The proposed school change is going to be very far from our residence. We as parents have been encouraging our kids to participate and do volunteer works like Safety Patrol etc., and allow them to stay in school late to these programs and we accommodate our schedule to pick them up late from school by personal transportation. By increasing travel time, it not only discourages parents in encouraging kids to participate in volunteer programs which require later pick ups but also discourages several parent volunteers, like us to plan to volunteer at school as it will take big chunk of our work schedule in commute. I strongly believe this will lead to reduction in kids/parents volunteer activities.  
  3. change of schools will play lot of effect on kid's emotions I have my son who is in 5th grade this year and is very eager to join next year many of his neighborhood friends at DDMS. He has developed special bond with kids and have been talking about going with them to same middle school on the bus. As soon as this change is proposed, he has been asking us on how can we accommodate for him to keep this friends circle as this is very important to him emotionally. We have been struggling to come up with good answer to assure him. This change will certainly take a toll on several kids emotions similar to my kid by losing their friends whom they have been for such a long time. Having known friends circle is especially important in middle school.  
  4. Decrease in property values  Many families bought a house in this neighborhood due to the fact that DDMS was the base school. This change will not only emotionally hurt but will hurt financially (unable to sell home and fetch decent market price) for so many hard working families as good rating schools is very important factor in buying/selling a house.   So I would like to make humble request to the board to keep our middle school assignment as DDMS for Cedar Bend neighborhood.
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Kaitlyn Chang 3 months ago

After reading the posts today, I looked more into the new middle school name “Alston Ridge Middle” opening in 2019. It’s same distance as Davis Drive Middle from my house. It would make sense if we are being reassigned to fill the newly opening middle school that’s equally close to our home. I just don’t understand why the board is rushing to move our kids out of Davis Drive Middle and send them across town to East Cary Middle starting in 2018 JUST ONE YEAR BEFORE Alston Ridge Middle opens.

According to page 35 of the presentation shows the list of current overcrowded schools: Apex MS and Mills Park MS. Davis Drive MS is not even on the list. Davis Drive Middle is NOT so crowded that they have to RUSH to make the reassignment.

Since Alston Ridge Middle opens in 2019, the board should be drawing the map in 2018. The timing of this assignment makes us feel that the plan is to make our reassignment to East Cary permanent. If there is ever a plan to send us to Alston Ridge, they wouldn’t be rushing our reassignment this year. We are all begging, hoping since we all made significant effort to establish our families here. The proposal takes away ALL STABILITY we worked so hard to reach. It would have been fine when new schools open and we are reassigned to fill it. Now it’s starting to look like both schools got new people coming and our kids will wake up at 5 AM for the long bus ride. It’s simply reckless and have no consideration of our kids’ interest in mind. We would appreciate if the board POSTPONE any reassignment of Davis Drive Middle based students until next year and assign us base on proximity to either Alston Ridge Middle’s or Davis Drive Middle.

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Murali lagisetty 3 months ago

I request Wake county public school system to stop the Bait & Switch practice of allocating the schools as the subdivision starts building out and then redistricting once the people move-in, build their life, schooling, and siblings. Request to reconsider the redistricting proposal and there are many other options on the table to accommodate the growth to meet the needs. Neighborhood schools are meant for having the smallest distance to travel and build better communities around the school. The proposal is completely opposite of that. This new East Cary Middle not only far away from living community , but also impacts on students productivity loss for longer travel times, which means less opportunity for homework completion, other volunteer activities , less family time resulting in lower grades.

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Amanda Hemingway 3 months ago

I live in Carpenter Village and my two sixth grade daughters currently attend Davis Drive and my son attends GHHS. I am very disappointed to read the proposal that my children and the other kiddos in my neighborhood will have to be bussed 25 mins away to ECMS for the next school year. I have had four children in the Wake County Public School System and this is the second time our family has faced a middle school change. My eldest was moved to a new school after Kindergarten and it was so traumatic for her that she ended up being homeschooled in second grade until she attended high school at Raleigh Charter. While I understand that we live in a very dynamic area with a large influx of students, I would ask that no decisions be made about our neighborhood school until Alston Ridge opens and WCPSS can determine how that school will effect enrollment. I think that it is critical to provide stability to these kids during a very difficult phase of their lives. Kids should be focusing on their academics and being school spirited without having to worry about where they will go to school the following year. Thank you for your time!!

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Lakshmi Sathish 3 months ago

Being a PARENT from Cedar Bend Community, I request you to reconsider your school change proposals. This kind of changes, before the Student completes their elementary or middle school, will definitely cause a negative impact on them. Affecting their Social life and School-Child relationship is not what any parent or a responsible board will want. Regarding commuting - Why should the schools be allocated so far from home? We are all well aware that there are a few numbers of new schools opening soon and are closer than the allocated ones. Long commuting will affect the Child and their family’s stress level as well as their time together. Kids in the elementary and middle school level do not need stress. The WCPSS are trying so hard the give, the kids, a stress free education system every year. We request you to consider other aspects that are involved in providing them the same and keep them peaceful in a calm, safe and better surrounding.

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Molly McKinley 3 months ago

I am very concerned with the proposed changes affecting Carpenter Village. I have 3 children in all schools--GHHS, DDMS and GHE. We STRONGLY dislike the possibility of having our family schedule broken into different calendar options and also STRONGLY dislike the possibility of bussing kids across town when DDMS is in our backyard. As a working parent who runs a business out of SF and Durham, I cannot even imagine adding this extra complication of commute time to our daily schedule and remain COMMITTED, CONNECTED and INVOLVED in their education. Not quite sure why this is happening again, but hope the board seriously considers the hardship this adds to daily life. On a side note, year-round options seem great on paper, but until there is a K-12 option--a true end-to-end system--feels like it adds an extra layer of complication that continually wreaks havoc on the goodness I know we are all committed to. Please consider other options for families who desire/require proximate, traditional calendar options for the sake of family connectedness, Sports, doctor appointments, early releases, forgotten lunches--I cannot even imagine having my kids spread all over the town. Process these logistics for families with multiple children and please reconsider how these map lines are drawn. ;) Thanks for creating this forum and hearing our stories before finalizing the plan.

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Sudhakar Chellam 3 months ago

We are from Chessington subdivision in Morrisville. Our reassignment is from DDMS to East Cary Middle. The distance to reach the DDMS is approx 3 miles but the East Cary middle is approx 7 miles. The calendar is changed from Traditional to Year around. Basically, any reassignment from DDMS to East Cary Middle will make the life of a parent inconvenient. Please reconsider your decision to reassign from DDMS to East Cary Middle.

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Yong Yang 3 months ago

I am very concerned with the proposed changes affecting Carpenter Village with a newly assigned middle school. My son is in Davis Drive Middle School(DDMS) 6th grade, and my daughter is 4th grade in Green Hope Elementary. The potential change will affect my entire family as we have the routine built up and never expected this type of interruption. I supposed the changes need to benefit us not to make us become the victims. The newly assigned school is twice as far as DDMS, and there must be a better way to re-assign the school district.

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Ashok Kondru 3 months ago

We have been residents of Olde Carpenter (part of Carpenter Village) for the past nine years and have had both our children go to Carpenter Elementary which is a year-round school. My son currently goes to GHHS and my daughter goes to DDMS, both being traditional schools. When they went to CES, it was extremely difficult for us as a family to ensure we provided the best of care for our children. We hired several babysitters and nannies through the years to take care of our children during the weeks that the year-round school had a break. It strained our family both psychologically and financially. I would never want to put my kids through that psychological trauma again. But here we are again, where despite being a responsible parent and tax-payer in Wake County, we are being punished to send our child to a school (ECMS) that is both ridiculously far from our home and a year-round school. I can only hope and pray that no other parent in this world has to go through this hardship if this proposal goes through. I've seen data in posts from other parents about proximity issues with ECMS, bussing our children at wee hours or the days (6am), and not to mention the loss of PTA participation from parents. It will ultimately be a total loss for our children not to avail the benefits or a shorter commute to school and utilize the time they have in activities that will enrich them in their life and career.

I strongly oppose the proposal and kindly request the authorities to postpone the decision until the Alston Ridge Middle School is opened in less than two years when they can evaluate if children of Carpenter Village can go to the new middle school.

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Julian Pizzo 3 months ago

We live in the Magnolia Estates neighborhood near Carpenter Village and have been very disheartened to hear of this proposal. We have 3 children, each 4 years apart and next year our middle will attend middle school This means we will span 3 schools, GHHS (traditional), GHE (traditional) and if what is proposed passes, East Cary with a year round schedule. This would definitely create unnecessary strain and stress and is extremely upsetting. Having 3 girls that are in all 3 levels of school from elementary, middle and high school, they would be in different directions, different schools, different calendars, not to mention a much further distance from our home and community. This would not just be a challenge, but a major obstacle for our family.

The proposal would most definitely cause hardship and strain on a daily basis that, in effect, would compromise their performance and our ability for parental involvement in school. They are involved in many school activities as well as extracurriculars. Adding a variance of distance and time greatly impacts our involvement (being able to volunteer at school). Being involved in our community, which is the radius in which we live, plays a big part of the contribution and education of students.

With the current proposal, this neighborhood area will have had 4 assignment changes in just over 10 years. There are 5 middle schools CLOSER than East Cary. Bussing kids for a nearly 1/2 hour drive when there is one less than 10 minutes away is not fair to the kids and definitely detracts from stability, especially in that DDMS is not overpopulated. And with Alston Ridge slated for 2019, there would likely be another reassignment. Our neighborhood community should remain at DDMS until it is clear how enrollment will be affected and how students will be moved. Reassigning at this point would undermine the stability and proximity pillars of the School Board reassignment plan. At a minimum, there should be some parameters for grandfathering in rising 6th graders on a traditional calendar and siblings. Stability, continuity, participation, community, and safety are the primary concerns of our family. Please consciously be aware of the consequences this imbalance would produce.

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Sai Puvvada 3 months ago

I live in Wexford Community. We at Wexford community strongly and respectfully oppose the proposed change from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle School. We have moved from out of state specifically to NC a couple of years ago for the beautiful weather and good schools. After a couple of years of search (only in Davis Drive Middle and Green Hope High zones) we finally bought a home and moved into Wexford in Nov 2016. We believed that we have settled down and now could provide stability and focus to our children’s education. Nine months on, the proposed change proposes to undo the very fabric of ‘stability’ that we painstakingly planned for.

While I understand the main driver for this change is to increase utilization in East Cary. Looking at various dimensions what I fail to understand is 'Why Us?' The proposal changes children schedule completely, is detrimental to their health and subsequently impacts their achievement, poses a safety risk, disrupts parent’s schedules and negatively impacts property values.

  1. Proximity Let’s look at various middle schools around us and their distances to Wexford community - a. Davis Drive Middle : 4 miles b. Mills Park Middle : 4.4 miles c. Proposed Alston Ridge Middle : 4.5 miles d. West Cary Middle : 5.6 miles e. Salem Middle l : 6.6 miles f. Reedy Creek Middle : 7.6 miles g. East Cary Middle : 8 miles

As many have already pointed out, the proposed East Cary Middle (year round option) and Reedy Creek Middle (traditional option) almost double the distance (7.5 to 8 miles) from Davis Drive Middle. The current Davis Drive Middle is the closest. While we understand WCPSS cannot always assign schools based on proximity, there is another Mills Park Middle (already capped). Also there is a proposed Alston Ridge Middle School to start in 2019. There is a very reasonable opportunity to look at other closer options than the proposed furthest options.

  1. Operational Efficiency & Stability: • Doubles the commute for families / bus rides in the impacted communities. Takes about 20-25 minutes to drive without traffic. Bus commutes will be longer given the stops. With traffic, it obviously will be a lot worse. • It will be impossible for parents with students at both East Cary Middle School and Green Hope High School to pick-up/drop-off. For parents who carpool, it will be impossible to drop off one sibling at East Cary Middle School at 7:00 a.m., and beat traffic to drop their Green Hope High School student at school by 7:15 a.m. (please note that they have to drop off a Middle School student before the High School student). • For parents who have to pick-up and drop-off siblings in middle and elementary schools, they need to be on road back and forth for over an hour. • Change from the current traditional base school to year-round base will disrupt the already untenable parent’s work schedules • The proposed plan changes Davis Drive Middle utilization from a projected 114% in 2020-2021 to 90% and does exactly the opposite to East Cary Middle from 81% projected in 2020-2021 to 110%. All the disruption ends up with the same problem. • The proposed change will negatively impact the property values for the 1100+ families that are impacted by this change.

  2. Student Achievement

• Davis Drive Middle starts at 8:15 a.m. and East Cary Middle starts an hour earlier @ 7:00 a.m. In addition to being at the bus stop very early in the morning because of the distance (around 6:15 a.m.). Children have to wake up at 5:15-5:30 am which is very early for kids at that age. Our children can’t eat their breakfast at that time. So in addition to packing their lunches, their working mother has to wake up at 4:30am to additionally pack their breakfast as well. Not sure where the children will find place and time to eat their breakfast.

• For many months during the year, our 10 and 11 year-old children will wait for the bus in the dark potentially with high school students. This poses a safety concern.

• There are various studies on the impact of school start time on student learning that have found early school times and lesser sleep is a proven health detriment and poses safety risk to children especially during adolescence. Researchers have also found that “students at the earlier starting school were tardy four times more frequently, and eighth graders at the earlier starting school obtained significantly worse average grades than the eighth graders (emphasis added)” that started school later. Students who started later were able to sleep, on a nightly average, an hour more than their counterparts with early starts. This additional sleep helped the middle school students to avoid “irregular weekly sleep patterns, increased daytime sleepiness, and more sleep-wake behavior problems.” A recent article in the Economics of Education Review provides an additional source of findings of the positive academic effects from later school start times for middle school students. This study, focusing on middle school students in Wake County, North Carolina, revealed that students who have later school start times score at a higher percentile on math and reading tests than do students who have earlier school start times. Numerous studies show that teenagers need 9 or more hours of sleep every night to nourish their rapidly changing brains. More sleep translates into better moods, less suicide, higher motivation, fewer fatigue-related complaints, and a decrease in the risk of auto accidents. Articles published on the Science Daily website and the American Academy of Sleep Medicine summarizes these studies and their findings related to reduced sleep and its impacts.
http://www.shorewood.k12.wi.us/uploaded/Family_Resources/general/Impact_of_School_Start_Time.pdf http://www.aasmnet.org/articles.aspx?id=1132 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100705190532.htm

In summary from a Wexford parent and student’s perspective, the proposed change from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary / Reedy Creek Middle negatively impacts every tenet of student assignment principles namely a. Student Achievement b. Stability c. Proximity d. Operational Efficiency

Most of what I have said here are applicable to other communities like Manchester, Cedar Bend, Chessington, Carpenter Village, Legacy at Carpenter, Olde Carpenter etc. as their posts also suggest.

Here are some of the other reasonable alternatives that exist - • Defer reassignment till Alston Ridge Middle comes up in 2019 so we may have better options • Keep base as Davis Drive Middle and provide East Cary Middle as a calendar option • Logically group radially contiguous geographies • Look at other newer communities for reassignment

Given all of the above, I urge the WCPSS board to consider student and parent’s perspectives in the impacted communities, look at some of the other reasonable alternatives that exist and keep the existing base Davis Drive middle school for Wexford community.

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Jeevan Sompuram 3 months ago

My neighborhood is Wexford community. In this proposal, my neighborhood middle school changes from Davis Drive to East Cary Middle School. East Cary Middle is more than twice as far from my house as Davis Drive is. When I entered my address into Google and searched for middle schools near my address, I see at least four other schools which are at half the distance of East Cary Middle. I could have bought a house 1/2 the price with twice the land and live 2 minutes from school if we were to buy into East Cary Middle. I really do not understand logic. I personally feel that Wake county is doing this change to help builders sell their new communities at premium price by assigning them to Davis Drive , and a result families like us who have been living here for more than 10 years, who have been paying high taxes are made to suffer. These kind of decisions by wake county are making me seriously thing about moving out of Wake County. I have been living here for more than 10 years and still my school problems are not solved. I do understand that estimation can go wrong once, but for the past 10 years I have not seen any hope of Wake County fixing school issues. This is un-heard off. Place like Dallas/Texas who had similar growth managed this problem very efficiently.

Moving Wexford to East Cary Middle would create a hardship on residents and children for these reasons: 1) Sleep. Children need it. The traffic in Cary is miserable. Bussing our kids twice as far as they need to go during rush hour traffic takes away valuable sleep time in the morning and valuable homework time in the afternoon. 2) Community involvement. We live on the west side of Cary. I hardly go to east side of the cary once a year, and I've lived in Cary for 11 years. The west side of Cary is where we live, work, play, and participate, and with this change my kid has to go that far every day.

3) I have my daughter who currently goes to Davis Middle, which means my daughter who is not the person who would like to change schools often will suffer because of this change. 4) I have another kid who will be going to Middle school in couple of years and at that point I will have one kid in year round and another kid in Calendar( Green Hope High). The other option for calendar is Reedy Creek and that is even further than East Cary.

5) AS Alston Ridge Middle is supposed to start in the year 2019, I think Wake County should wait till that school starts and think about assigning us to a school close to home (wexford) and seriously think about kind of harm they are doing to kids and families in Wexford Community.

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smita Adekar 3 months ago

Moving the base school for Carpenter village students to ECMS will badly affect the daily routine for the entire family as we are adding double time for commute of the students which ideally should not be the case with base school assignment. We can save this time more fruitful way in oveall development of the students instead waisting in travel.Please hold on with this proposal till we get a planned middle school (Alston Ridge Middle school )open in 2019 which will be an ideal solution to accomodate more students

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Laura Mentler 3 months ago

As a resident of Carpenter Village with three, current Wake County Schools students on two different calendars, I ask that you reconsider the current proposal to change our neighborhood base school from Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle School. I have a 7th grader at DDMS who is involved in the school community and clubs there and has finally settled into the traditional calendar. I would need to opt to grandfather him into DDMS with this plan in place for him to stay there and finish out middle school in a stable school environment that he has already adjusted to. I also have a 5th grader and a second grader at Carpenter Elementary. Under this proposal, next year my rising 6th grader would have to go to either ECMS or WCMS and I would have two middle school students on two different calendars. I would also need to maintain a daily schedule that would involve two different school year calendars and three different daily start and finish times. This is completely unreasonable but would be the only option if this plan goes through. It seems even more incomprehensible when you factor in that in just one more year, another middle school will be opening (Alston Ridge Middle School) that will impact our neighborhood as well. To change the base middle school for our neighborhood this year and then again next year does not provide stability to my children or any other students in the Carpenter Village neighborhood. For our family, it would also include another calendar change for 2018-2019 because our oldest would then be entering a traditional calendar high school. Another consideration is the distance of East Cary Middle School to our home. There are four other middle schools that are closer than ECMS. In a household with two working parents, it will be nearly impossible to manage three separate school schedules at varying distances and traffic with two parent work schedules. The upcoming opening of Alston Ridge Middle School would be just 4 miles from our neighborhood whereas ECMS is double that distance. The distance of ECMS would also hinder our children from being able to socially connect with their middle school peers. We, like most people, spend much of our free time in our west Cary area participating in local sports and activities. When you look at the past 10 years, Carpenter Village residents have been the ones to be shuffled around more than other nearby neighborhoods. Our neighborhood has had its base middle school change three times over these past 10 years. When you compare the distance from my home to ECMS and the distance of a home in Preston Village to ECMS, for example, it is negligible. That home may be the slightest bit closer to DDMS, but , in some cases, the Preston Village address is a mile (or more) closer to ECMS. Then why must Carpenter Village, again, be the ones to move our children? It makes the most sense to keep the Carpenter Village neighborhood base as Davis Drive Middle School for the time being. This would provide the most stability to these children. When you provide stability and proximity for my children, they will be able to continue to be academically successful in school and to be involved in their school community with their peers. Please reconsider this proposal. Thank you.

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Wendy Pizzo 3 months ago

Living in the Magnolia Estates neighborhood (near Carpenter Villiage), I was completely shocked, concerned and disheartened to hear of the latest proposal to move our middle school from DDMS to ECMS. With 3 girls in the school system, each 4 years apart, next year we are about to be spanning 3 different schools, GHHS, GHE, and if this unfortunate proposal passes, ECMS. It would create unnecessary hardship, stress, and disruption, on a daily basis, having children on 2 different calendars, not to mention, the distance of ECMS being more than twice the distance than DDMS. Also, combined with the earlier start time and distance/extra time spent driving/transporting to a middle school so far away when there are 5 closer middle schools, would cause much undue hardship in many aspects.

This clearly does not meet a minimum of 2 of the school board standards - proximity and stability. With the current proposal, our neighborhood area will have had 4 reassignments in just over 10 years. This is anything but stable when you have to be concerned every few years where your child may be going to school. Children need stability and continuity for well-being and to do the best of their abilities in school, not added stress, especially that is completely unnecessary. This upheaval is not fair to the children. Our lives are built around our communities and this would be completely disruptive. And with loss of proximity, comes loss of parental involvement, which does much to support not only the children, but the school and the constant need for volunteers. With Alston Ridge projected for 2019, there will certainly be another reshuffling. To preserve both the stability and proximity, as parents, and taxpayers, we call on you to have DDMS remain the school for this area until it is clear how the enrollment will be affected and how students will be moved. At this time, reassigning would only undermine the stability AND proximity pillars of the School Board reassignment plan, adversely affecting so many families. At the very least, rising 6th graders (and siblings) with family on traditional school calendars should be grandfathered in. Please consider the ramifications this will cause to family's real lives.

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AMRITA NAIK 3 months ago

My son is in Grade 7 at Davis Drive MS and we stay in Carpenter Village. Re-assigning his school at this point would cause de-stabilization right before his exit grade. This is highly undesirable and will cause a lot of stress and strain for the child. Moreover, with “Alston Ridge Middle School” slated to open in 2019, there will be yet another re-assignment at that point causing another round of churn and instability. Stability and continuance are of prime importance for the healthy academic development of children. I sincerely request you to consider retaining Carpenter Village at “Davis Drive MS”

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Priya Khatri 3 months ago

I request that you re-consider the re-assignment of Carpenter Village to East Cary Middle School. One of the most important factors in a child's education is stability of environment. The unwarranted shuffling of students, the much longer bus rides to get to school each morning and reduced community participation because the location of the school is so far away from the community, is going to drastically impact the learning of students. This change is going to increase hardships for families tremendously. The loss of time and effort does not match up with the non existing gains that this plan sets out to fulfill. There are 6 other middle schools far closer to Carpenter Village. The need of such a re-assignment is unnecessary or it fulfills some ulterior motives that are unrelated to the overcrowding at Davis Drive Middle. I urge WCPSS to not further any re-assignment plans until newer schools are opened to serve newer communities instead of uprooting existing ones.

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Mahi Reddy 3 months ago

I am from Cedar Bend Community on Bender Ridge Dr. I am parent of 2 kids and moved from Maryland to Cary, NC just because to avoid commute and live a better life with family and friends. 1. This change will create long bus rides for our kids and will pull them away from their community and other after care activities. This seems unnecessary. With my work schedule and after school activities, having them so far away from our house and community would not be ideal -- especially when there are many closer options. 2. This aggravates to a huge time loss for PTA participation, community engagement and contribution to school activities. 3. The "proximity" does not only apply to the distance the bus has to travel, but it will have an impact on our children's sense of community and them being able to go to school with people they also live and play with. This will not be possible if they are moved to East Cary Middle. Please consider all the intangible factors as well that result from uprooting an established neighborhood/community and sending their children to the other side of town. 4. The traffic in Cary is miserable. Bussing our kids twice as far as they need to go during rush hour traffic takes away valuable sleep time in the morning and valuable homework time in the afternoon. Please consider our requests and do not reassign. Thank you. Mahi

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Keith Ealy 3 months ago

Carpenter Village This plan immediately misses two of the “pillars” of the school board (stability and proximity) and misses a third “pillar” (operational efficiency) in a few years. Stability – I am not sure how having 4 assignment changes for Carpenter Village in 10 years promotes/satisfies this pillar. Many families have multiple children that have been affected by the multiple changes of the base schools for this neighborhood. Enough is enough. In addition, it does not make sense to change our base from a traditional calendar school to a year round schedule. Proximity – ECMS is the 6th closest middle school to our neighborhood. It will be the 7th once Alston Ridge opens. This will obviously (or maybe not so much to the authors of this proposal?) significantly increase travel time for our children. Operational Efficiency – Under this proposal, per your own data, ECMS will be over capacity and DDMS will be under capacity in a few years. Can we expect another reassignment when this happens? Real World – We can discuss pillars all day long. This is how the reassignment directly affects my family. Currently I have a 7th grader at DDMS and a 5th grader at GHES. The 7th grader is doing great and has excelled academically. It would be detrimental academically and socially to remove him from DDMS for one year and send him to a new environment on a different calendar year. Hence, we would find a way to drive him to DDMS for his final year. Our 5th grader, under the current proposal, would be on a different schedule from our other middle schooler. She would not only be on a year round schedule, but would be on a bus for a significant amount of time and travelling farther than 5 other middle schools.

I implore the board, at a minimum, to wait reassigning our neighborhood until Alston Ridge opens. I would assume another round of reassignment will take place once this school opens. Secondly, previous reassignment plans included a grandfather clause for current students and siblings. This should be included in any and all proposals moving forward.

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Wendy Chen 3 months ago

First, thank you for providing a forum to feedback and communication. My three children (ages 11, 9 and 5) are third generation WCPSS students and attend Carpenter ES and Davis Drive MS. My decision to support two different calendars was made with much care and consideration over a course of one year. I was impressed by both Davis Drive MS and my year-round option of East Cary MS; however, ultimately, I decided that East Cary MS is not in reasonable proximity to our home in Carpenter Village and that upholding the pillar of proximity was important to our family. Being part of any school environment extends beyond the classroom -- for us, it's encouraging the personalization of my student's educational experience with extracurricular activities offered at school and supporting the school with my time and skills -- without having to consider that the school's distance just isn't worth the participation or the effort. And although managing two calendars has its challenges, our quality of time as a family is still greater than the quantity of time we spend as individuals getting from/to work and school.

My feedback is that I respectfully request that the proposal for reassignment not be considered for the 2018-2019 school year and with the opening of Alston Ridge MS planned, incorporate this new school as part of the conversation to meet the demanding growth in West Cary while upholding the four pillars of WCPSS.

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Alicia Smith 3 months ago

I am confused, frustrated and EXTREMELY concerned about the proposed reassignment changes affecting Carpenter Village. The news of a possible reassignment away from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle came with a devastating blow… and a feeling of “here we go again.” Our neighborhood faced this same proposal several years ago. In fact, we’re only half way through the seven-year enrollment plan that placed Carpenter Village at Davis Drive Middle. All of the reasons why this move wasn’t a good fit then still hold true today. Middle school is a critical age where stability, foundation and routine matter. A change of this magnitude – in distance, in time, in community and in calendar – will disrupt children, relationships and family dynamics. These are the exact elements that need to remain as “intact” as possible. As a working parent, I start to panic when I think of the immediate complications – lack of sleep, school vs after-school activities, traveling across town for what should have been a quick orthodontist check-up, early release days… and the list continues to grow every time I think about a possible reassignment… and this doesn’t even take into account the rest of my family’s schedule. These issues will significantly reduce (or eliminate) our family’s ability to participate in and connect with our daughter’s school. Magnify these issues for families that have multiple children in varying grades at different schools and the logic for the proposed reassignment seems impossible to follow. Please take a closer look at how map lines can be drawn and leave Carpenter Village at Davis Drive Middle.

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srinivas nayini 3 months ago

I live in WEXFORD Subdivision which is impacted by this proposed change. This proposal has raised lots of concerns and disappointment for parents with children in elementary and middle school. Proximity and stability is biggest concern and it will have adverse impact on our children. Access to school for the most part is internal roads from WEXFORD. With already deteriorating situation of traffic congestion in Morrisville and Cary this is only going to make the situation even worse for the traffic and for Parents who live and work for the most part in RTP area. Our communities need stability in our school assignments . This has been a ongoing struggle for our community with ever changing school assignment. This will put unwanted stress on our children and it will affect negatively their ability to perform to their potential. We have voted for the school bond and the leaders of the school districts with the hope and trust that our vision for our children is their vision. I sincerely request the concerned officials and representatives to look for more creative alternatives to accommodate projected growth than drag and drop distribution which will have negative affects on our children and communities.

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Sandeep A 3 months ago

As a resident of the Manchester community, I'm greatly concerned with the proposed changes and would like to oppose it. The new assignment increases the travel time for my kids who have motion/car sickness, and the new proposal is going to make them suffer everyday for longer duration. We recently bought a home in this neighborhood considering the proximity to schools and now with this proposed change our whole life is going to be turned upside down. I strongly urge the decision makers to reverse this proposal considering the huge negative impact it is going to have on several parents and children.

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Vimal Bana 3 months ago

I live in Ceder Bend Community and am shocked to see this reassignment proposal. This has been happening too frequently leading to emotional distress to kids, parents and am sure for the schools as well. I vehemently and respectfully oppose this re-assignment proposal due to multiple reasons.

Proximity - Our current MS assignment is DDMS, making it East Cary will increase the distance by more than doubled.. leading to kids spending more time in commuting, wasting valuable time which they could've spent doing after school activites and making them less productive.

Volunteering - Assigning a school far away from our neighborhood will leave parents with no time to volunteer in the school as the travel time will be more than doubled each way.

Stability - As I mentioned above, carrying out these reassignment almost every year is very disturbing to our day to day life. Kids get impacted emotionally and psychologically. There's a constant anxiety among kids about the school they will go in the next session.

It's my humble request to re-consider this decision and not go ahead with this assignment without a holistic policy framework.

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grace yang 3 months ago

My subdivision is Cendar Bend. I am speaking as a mom to vote against the proposal of changing base school from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary or Reedy Creek Middle School next year.

First of all, I totally agree with and support all the postings from each of the affected resident. Thank you all for the hard work.

My family have been living in this area for 7 years. My daughter is currently a fifth grader. Many of her friends from school and neighborhood are already in DDM. She has not joined DDM, however, she already develops the attachment to this school.

The kids in middle school are mostly aged between 11 and 14, so-called early teenager period. This is the critical stage when they transit from "daddy's girl " or "mommy's boy" to be more independent and rebelling. Throwing the kids to a totally strange place will definitely bring humongous amount of stress and unnecessary burden to them. Families' and friends' support is crucial. A familiar surroundings can provide them ease of mind, too. Moreover, regardless the variety of population and religions in this area, most of our families share similar living condition, educational concept and even ethical values. This also help the kids build up healthy bonding to their school mates. To a mom, all these factors are extremely important for the kid's smooth transaction.

Please reconsider the proposal and hopefully, we can hear good news from the board eventually. Thanks.

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grace yang 3 months ago

This time, I am speaking as a home owner to request Board of WCPSS revoking the proposal to change our base school from DDM to ECMS or RCMS.

Three years ago, my family purchased the new house at Cedar Bend, a brand new subdivision. When house was half way, we were forced by the builder to sign the agreement to change the zip code from 27519 to 27560. Why? Because per the builder, "Town of Cary " said so;

Later on, until almost all the houses were completed, we were just told we won't get the single mailbox, instead, only three mail clusters for the whole subdivision. Why? Because per builder, "Morrisville Post Office" said so;

Now, three years later, our school assignment might be changed from a close-by and high-score school to a much farther and low-score school. Why? Because WCPSS board said so.

I am sure the board has a list of reasons to reassign the schools. Are these reasons really accountable, considerable, and feasible? If, regardless the whole affected communities' protest, the proposal is approved, I can imagine WCPSS will loose lots of excellent students to charter schools or private schools. For many parents who have been so dedicating to their children's academy success, the proposal can not be accepted. In the mean time, Magnet schools are also far away and hard to get in.

For the two major issues with the builder, my community stood strongly together to fight against the builder for a prolonged time. Of course and unfortunately, we lost. Why? Because the builder is doing business. They won't care about our anger nor disappointment. They care more about their earning and profit.

What about our school board? If students' stress is not handled, if the parents' concerns and worries are not addressed, if the homeowner's financial damage is ignored, then what does the board value more?

Please consider seriously our request, and keep our current school assignment. Thank you for providing the forum for us to speak up, and for your listening.

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Wendy Pizzo 3 months ago

speaking of builders...I have heard it said that they are selling all these new neighborhoods telling everyone they will have DDMS - essentially kicking out us out for people who don't even live here yet!!!!

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Cynthia Stanton, Supply Chain Manager 3 months ago

I am very concerned about the change from Davis Dr. Middle school to East Cary Middle school for Carpenter Village neighborhood. We have four boys, the oldest is in 5th grade and will be entering Middle School next year, with a brother in 4th grade entering the year after. We understood that Alston Ridge Middle school was opening in 2019, which will be much closer to Carpenter Village, and at that time, there will be SIX middle schools closer to us then East Cary Middle School. Why would this change be made this year and not delayed a year to see the impact of the new Alston Ridge Middle School? I am concerned that our sons are going to have to move middle schools every or every other year, or end up in different middle schools across town from each other. This does not help build continuity, or stability, which is so important at this point in development. They are expecting to go to Davis Drive Middle School, and have even asked about riding their bikes there when they get older. It makes no sense to me to send them to a school that is twice as far away, that will make it more difficult to get to them and get them home, will add at least 20 minutes to their and my commute, and will further reduce the sleep they can get to make the early bus times. I feel that wake county is forgetting the wellbeing of it's children in these decisions. Please leave Carpenter Village assignment as Davis Drive Middle School.

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Lourdes Dauler 3 months ago

We live in Carpenter Village and are distressed to see this reassignment from Davis Drive to East Cary Middle School and the historical lack of stability it represents. I cant believe that my child now has to travel twice far to go to school and can't see the sense of practice of constant reassignments. This proposal to have Carpenter Village students go to school further away should be reconsidered given the opening of another middle school (Alston Ridge) in two years.What's next another reassignment then. I implore that this be tabled until Alston Ridge is complete which would provide much needed consistency. Thank you.

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Vidya Tripuraneni 3 months ago

We live in the Carpenter Community. My son just started 6th Grade at Davis Drive and is still in the process of getting adjusted to the new school. He really likes Davis Drive and was very disappointed when I told him about this proposed change and asked me if there any way he can stay at Davis Drive. Change is tough even for us as adults, kids need stability and I believe constant change will not allow them to succeed. I hope WCPSS will take this into consideration. Like most of the other parents my biggest concerns with the proposal as a parent of two kids are:

1) The change psychologically impacts the kids and the family as a whole. 2) Travel time increases and community Involvement decreases: East Cary is twice as far as Davis Drive from our neighborhood. Kids can have quality time at home or work on their home works or play instead of spending time in the buses. When we have several good schools closer to us, it doesn’t seem logical to send our kids to a faraway school. 3) Year Round Vs Traditional: My younger kid goes to a WCPSS Traditional School. This might be the case with several other parents who have other kids in Traditional schools. Having one kid in Traditional calendar school and another kid in a Year round school will be tough for any working parents to manage with both the schedules. 4) Transportation: Even if the current kids are grandfathered into Davis Drive, transportation may not be provided. Picking up one kid at Davis Drive and being back at the bus stop to pick another kid from Elementary schools will nearly be impossible for any parent.

I understand Wake County’s intent behind this proposal (increase the enrollment into East Cary Middle school) but this should be done in a way that least impacts the students/parents. I think changing East Cary to Magnet school/traditional calendar might help achieve the goal of increasing the school’s enrollment. Lot of parents around this area send their kids to magnet schools in Raleigh and this might be a closer/better option for them.

I don’t see a single parent in this forum who is happy about this proposed change. Please take into consideration all the parent’s concerns and hope you will make a decision that is best for all of us.

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Sameer Dave 3 months ago

I live in WEXFORD and as a parent am very disappointed with this decision and vote against this. We moved to this subdivision so both my kids would get Davis Drive middle school. My daughter has lots of friends in Davis who she grew up with and now she would have to attend another school cause the board decided to assign a school to us change a which is 9 miles from our house instead of 5 miles which is our current middle school. Everyone in our subdivision is disappointed to read this news. Our communities need stability in our school assignments . This has been a ongoing struggle for our community with ever changing school assignment

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Sirisha Bhimi 3 months ago

We live in WEXFORD and are distressed to see this reassignment from Davis Drive to East Cary Middle School and the historical lack of stability it represents. I cant believe that my child now has to travel twice far to go to school and can't see the sense of practice of constant reassignments.

With already deteriorating situation of traffic congestion in Morrisville and Cary this is only going to make the situation even worse for the traffic and for Parents who live and work for the most part in RTP area. Our communities need stability in our school assignments . This has been a ongoing struggle for our community with ever changing school assignment.

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Sangeetha Penugonda 3 months ago

I have been living in Wexford community past 13 years, we have 2 kids, one in middle and other one in elementary. We strongly oppose the proposed change for Middle school. We have been wake county resident because of the schools, and now changing the assignment when it’s our turn to use the taxes we paid. Following are the reasons for request for opposing your proposal : 1. Distance : 8 Miles , is too far for us . Kids do get tired, and as bus time increases it creates more problems w.r.t bulling , fights, safety etc. That puts pressure on us to drive by our self adding more traffic . Also, drive reduces interest for kids to participate in after/before school activities 2. School calendar: We will have both kids in different schools always , East Cary Middle being year around we would end up one kid in traditional and one in year around . As working parent year around does not fit for us at all. It absolutely impossible to manage two kids in two calendar schools. 3. School Time : East Cary Middle starts very early , with the distance buses comes very early . Kids will be forced to getup early . 6:15 ‘sh it will dark in the bus stop , and there is safety concern. We request you to please re-consider your proposal , and keep Davis drive Middle as our base school . Appreciate for listening to our concerns. Hoping for the best , Thanks!

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Stacey Gibbs 3 months ago

We live in Carpenter Village and our base middle school has changed from Davis Middle to East Cary and I would like to respectfully request to the Board that the proposal be reconsidered. 1. Davis is a traditional school whereas East Cary is a year-round school, it would makes it extremely difficult for the kids and families who are not used to the year-round calendar and/or have siblings in the traditional schools. 2. Moving the kids to East Cary almost doubles the distance when compared to Davis Middle increasing the commute time for the kids. The proposed change would clearly not meet a minimum of 2 of the school board standards - proximity and stability. With the current proposal, our neighborhood area will have had 4 reassignments in just over 10 years. This is anything but stable when you have to be concerned every few years where your child may be going to school. Children need stability and continuity for well-being and to do the best of their abilities in school. Our lives are built around our communities for everything from Doctors appointments, after school activities and school involvement... and this would be completely disruptive...and nearly impossible for working families to manage. My feedback is that I respectfully request that the proposal for reassignment of Carpenter Village not be considered for the 2018-2019 school year.

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Sunil Patil 3 months ago

I have 2 kids and both are going Elementary school, which is 4 minutes distance from my house. My elder son will move to next year to middle school, the East Cary school distance from my house is 8.7 miles, he will have to get up early morning 5 am to get ready for school, getting up early and spending lots of time in the bus going to impact on his school performance. my second kids will get distrub with his too early getting up and schedule which is going to impact on his studies as well.

Stability prospective in last 10 years 4 schools are changed for Carpenter community, We are not expecting any more changes in the school area as it is going to impact on overall social friends and bringing up.This rezoning also changes the dynamics of the PTA for the schools being affected.

Please consider these factors and do not change Davis Drive Middle school for Carpenter community.

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Elizabeth Bostwick 3 months ago

Thank you for opening this forum to post feedback on the proposed reassignment. We have been at Wake County Schools now for 10 years, and we have had a great experience. I live in Carpenter Village, and under this proposal, my neighborhood base middle school changes from Davis Drive to East Cary Middle School. I have that the far distance combined with the early start means an extremely early wake up time. It also means a lot of time spent traveling on the bus to and from school. This would be a daily hardship. I also like to volunteer in the school or go to school functions, but the time needed to travel there during my work day will make it very difficult. I have a high school and an elementary student, and I have been looking forward to getting them back on the same calendar since we have been split on traditional versus year round for 3 years. The traditional option for this reassignment proposal is Reedy Creek Middle which is also very far away.

I realize that there is a need to shuffle the assignments to better balance the enrollment, but I ask that you please reconsider this assignment. I would really like to see some thought given to a middle school option in the Western part of Wake County. I know that Alston Ridge Middle School is opening in 2019, and I propose that you visit reassigning Carpenter village at that time when it would provide more stability for a permanent assignment and a closer option. calendar option.

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Raja Rajan 3 months ago

I am resident of the WEXFORD sub-division and as a parent, I vote against the proposal of changing the base school from Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle School. I live in this sub-division for the past 12 years and we have faced this exact proposal quite a few years ago. The communities need permanency in the school assignments. DDMS is the base school for several years now for our WEXFORD sub-division and it does not make any sense to change our base school from DDMS to East Cary Middle. The foremost reason we bought a home in this sub-division is the proximity to my kid’s schools (Greenhope Elementary, DDMS and Greenhope High). Currently my kids (Greenhope High and Greenhope Elementary) are in traditional calendar and this change will have an adverse effect in my family. I request the board to not to change the existing school assignments for the WEXFORD sub-division. In advance, thanks.

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Michelle Flynn 3 months ago

I am a resident of Carpenter Village and under the recent reassignment draft, our neighborhood is reassigned from Davis Drive Middle School (traditional calendar) to East Cary (year round calendar). I ask that you please reconsider, as there are many schools closer to our neighborhood and it would be helpful to incorporate the impact of opening nearby Alston Ridge Middle School in 2019. Waiting just a bit longer to evaluate this reassignment could result in much less change for many families. My son attends DDMS and I hope that he can finish his middle school years there to avoid further change for him and for our family (I also have another son on traditional calendar). Please keep Carpenter Village families assigned to Davis Drive Middle School. Thank you.

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Elizabeth ColeWalker 3 months ago

The circle that surrounds a child's life as he/she grows to adulthood is supported by Family, School, Community, and often Church. It is important to ensure maximum benefit from all the supporting institutions to build a resilient adult that functions to optimal potential. As a resident of Carpenter Village and a parent of two Wake County School Children, I have been very happy with the Community and schools. My concerns with the proposed changes that would eliminate Davis Middle as my community's base school are not based on traditional or year-round. My concerns are as follows: • Distance - Davis is 3 miles away in West Cary and ECMS is 8 miles away in East Cary. While this does not seem like a big distance difference, the East Cary commute could be 40 to 60 minutes a day of travel time. The figure of a 20-minute bus ride from my neighborhood to ECMS must be based on ideal traffic conditions and does not account for working parents that have to drop off at multiple schools rather than use buses.
• Community and School Participation - The biggest concern I have with an East Cary base school is that it would limit the ability to participate in school and community activities. Having a 40 to 60-minute commute to go to school is unacceptable. If children live in West Cary, they should have schools to attend in the west. • Homework Time – Increasing travel time home will impact available time for homework and cause unnecessary stress. • Family Life – The burden that having an East Cary base school to my West Cary family will negative impact and interfere with home and family life, i.e. family meals, socialization, downtime). This will be more of a negative impact to families with two working parents. I sincerely request that Wake County leave Davis Drive Middle School as Carpenter Village’s base school option. It is our local school and it makes sense to attend a school closest to my home.

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Jen Mahone 3 months ago

Please help Carpenter Village maintain a sense of community by allowing our children to remain at Davis Drive Middle School. I strongly believe that the proposed switch to East Cary Middle School will fragment our wonderful neighborhood.

Right now... - My children can walk to any number of nearby homes to do school projects and homework with their classmates. - They can stay after school for activities and grab a ride home with a neighborhood parent. - On a nice day, they can enjoy a safe bike ride to and from school. - They can leave for a doctor appointment and be back in time for their next class. - I can easily take an hour away from work to volunteer at my child's school.

The calendar change, along with the increased distance from the locale where we work and play, will force families to choose from a variety of other school options for their children, be it traditional calendar, magnets, charters, and private schools. If this happens then we will all lose, but most upsetting is the negative impact it will have on our kids.

Carpenter Village is a large neighborhood that is very happy with their current school choices - please don't disrupt that.

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Marie Pasquale 3 months ago

Thank you for providing the opportunity to provide feedback. I understand many of the changes being proposed are due to the new class size requirements set forth by the NCGA and that working to accommodate them is not an easy task. Right now, I have a third grader at Sycamore Creek Elementary School. Our base is Jeffreys Grove but SCES is our calendar option. From what I understand, under the draft proposal, my daughter, who has been at SCES since kindergarten, would be moved to Jeffreys Grove. But the proposal suggests moving transfers out of Jeffreys Grove due to overcapacity, so doesn't this mean that twice as many students will be displaced? Please let us stay where we are! Stability is very important to us and we've been very happy in the 3+ years we’ve been at Sycamore. SCES is 2 miles from our home and Jeffreys Grove is 7 miles in the opposite direction from work, so logistically a move there would be very challenging for our family. In addition, I understand the board is considering a change to sibling rules. My son will be starting kindergarten next year and I understand that there is a chance he will not be able to attend the same school as his sister. Please ensure siblings stay together! Thank you in advance for your time.

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Xinhe Yin 3 months ago

As a residence of Legacy at Carpenter Village, we are having a hard time understanding the reasons behind the assignment draft 1: base school are changed from Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle School. While there are many negative impact on us, distance/commute time is the biggest concern: DDMS is 3.9mi vs. ECMS is 7.9mi away. What does this mean to us? It means a lot more troubles for sure. 1, At least double of commute time for parents to drop off / pick up kids to school. Rush hours traffic and school bus routes/stops would make everything worse. Kids will spend time on bus instead of good sleeping, studying, activities and having fun with friends. 2, Less participation to school. Aggregated distance would make it difficult for parents to participate school activities and being volunteers. Less communication between families and school is definitely not a good sign for good and fair education. 3, Less good sleeping time for kids, and sleeping deficiency would cause extra non-necessary stress to our kids and families 4, Less homework time, less family time and less fun time.
Long distance/commute along with other negative impacts, such as calendar option, overcrowd of ECMS will make our life miserable. We sincerely request WCPSS reevaluate the reassessment of Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle school for Legacy at Carpenter Village. It make sense to go to school close to our home.

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Ben Murrie 3 months ago

I am writing to add my voice to the list of concerned parents and citizens from the Carpenter Village neighborhood impacted by the recent decision to reassign our neighborhood school from Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle School. This decision, though I’m sure done with the best of intentions and only because of a lack of other perceivable options, has dramatic social, academic, and economic consequences. Furthermore, the decision is confusing as the reasoning given for it is the opening of four new schools. However, both Davis Drive and East Cary are clearly not on that list. If anything, four new schools should prove to ease the student population burden, not force children to go across the city to a different school. Also, there are several geographically closer schools for Davis students to attend if they must, yet they are being sent to the furthest possible alternative in the city.

First off, the change in middle schools negatively impacts many of us from a social standpoint. Children (who have already had their school changed during grade school) will have to yet again switch locations, teachers and administrative staff, and social and academic support groups. This creates instability. We all know how important community support is for children at this age, and uprooting them can only do harm. In addition to this, the additional time necessary to go to and from school will cause internal familial disruption to routine. Children will need to get up earlier and thus get less sleep. They will get home later and thus have less time for homework, family bonding, and extracurricular or religious activities.

Additionally, this will clearly have an academic impact. Students need structure, and having their academic support system removed so abruptly will certainly cause distress. Students who get less sleep and less time for tutoring or studying will certainly see lower academic achievement. This will not only hurt them and their future, but look bad for Wake County. For a community that relies on their school system to attract and keep residents (and taxpayers), I’m not sure Wake County can afford to risk that.

Finally, the change in school proximity negatively impacts families from an economic standpoint. Significantly longer transportation to and from school, extracurricular activities, and meetings imposes time and expenses burdens upon parents. This does not include any negative occupational repercussions that may come as a result of having to miss or be late to work in order to account for such excursions. This burden will increase tremendously when our second child needs to enter middle school and, if his brother had been grandfathered into Davis, will be forced to go to a different school. Clearly, that also impacts the social stress mentioned above. It is also certainly possible that this move lowers home values in the area. Potential buyers would not want their children to be bused across the city, and would therefore avoid our neighborhood. I know when we initially purchased here, proximity to the schools were a very important factor in our decision.

Clearly I am not the only resident expressing discontent about this, and mine is not the only note you will receive. While you are professionals and have certainly carefully considered such a decision, I can’t imagine you expected the blowback you are getting. This is because the various levels of consequence the decision has were likely not foreseen. Please reconsider your decision. If that is not possible, at least delay your decision until Alston Ridge MS opens (as that is another closer school and will again create instability). You are putting an enormous burden on a group of people who has, until now, been your champion. You are losing the trust of a community who supports you. You are alienating your volunteers, taxpayers, and future success stories.

Sincerely,

Ben Murrie Carpenter Village Resident and Parent of Two School-Aged Children

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venkatrao jagarlamudi 3 months ago

Only reason I bought the property in WEXFORD community is Davis Drive schools and I am against this new assignment due to following reasons. - New school is going to be around 8 miles and kids are going to suffer in travel - In case if kids miss the bus I have to drop them in school, normally it’s going be too much and my work schedule is going to disturb - We often travel during summer, so I prefer my kids go to traditional schools - I did around 6 months of research about the schools and bought a property WEXFORD community few months back, due to this new school assignment my total schedule is going to change. - As per the new school assignments the property value is going to reduce and the community is going to lose lot of appreciation. I hope you understand our concern and requesting to please rollback the new schools assignments. Thanks a lot.

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MSReddy 3 months ago

Dear Wake County Board - I am Wexford Community ( Elmhaven way, Morrisville, NC ) resident, we are in this community to avoid traffic issues and RTP based working. - Requesting to stop the changing Base Middle School for our Wexford community from Davis Drive middle school to East Cary middle school. - Currently, Wexford community base middle school is Davis Drive middle school. - This change will increase distance from 4.4 miles to 8.4 miles, and this will triple the driving time. - Its un-imaginable driving issues and delay to pickup the kids for support their clubs activities if you want drive from RTP area in this hectic traffic. - And, this change would totally puts the kids health in critical situation when, parents wants to pickup/drive through this hectic traffic to take them for doctor's appointment or health issue attendance. - Kids already suffering with travelling duration due to heavily increased traffic on Hwy 54, Chatham street drive and Davis drive routes. - There is public transportation from Wexford area to East Cary Middle School. First lets fix the public transportation issue to allow residents travel comfortable to school, library, play grounds from work location or community. We already hearing stories that, Amazon retailers business hub is opted out from NC due to public transportation issue. - We have already so many incidents and traffic jams at Railway crossing junctions when comming from Davis drive to Hwy 54. It will terrible situations to kids on this long and terrific busy route and long drive from RTP to Cary Downtown. - Please conduct Parents and students general meetings to collect our pain on the traffic issue to drive such a long distance for East Cary middle school. - Please conduct test drives in the morning and Evening when parents wants come from their work location at RTP to East Cary middle school to understand the situation and attend their kids for any immediate action. - Alernative options, 1. For new communities open new middle schools in the RTP area instead of sending un-realistic location based school. And, Davis drive middle school is not capped out and it has enough bandwidth for current communities that are assigned. 2. What is the situation on assigning "Alston Ridge Middle school" as alternative solution, instead of shuffling the issue? When is going to be "Alston Ridge Middle school" ready and help the kids lives? 3. This will definitely impact our Town income tax revenue due uncertainty at residents and their kids lives and their public services.

Please withdraw this change and work with residents to better live at Trainable, and avoid migration, and avoid business impact, and avoid Town tax revenue flow. Lets improve public transportation and public services by facilating new middle schools in the RTP area.

Once again please see attached files for distance and timing comparison, how that will impact the our lives and kids time travel. They have to sacrifice couple activities and need withdraw clubs.

One more last point, lot of parents have been migrating to RTP from CA, NJ, TX, OH...etc for family growing due comfortable schools near by community at short drive distance. Lets not put parents and kids lives in miserable with change.

Thank you so much for taking time to count my feedback and being friendly resident, and stopping this change.

MSReddy at Wexford Community Elmhaven way, Morrisville, NC

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Tatia Markland 3 months ago

I would like to reiterate comments by other parents and urge you to pursue a long-term solution that will minimize repeated reassignments in the same neighborhoods. I understand that the school district is trying to serve a population that is growing faster than the infrastructure to support that population, but the attendance area proposed to move from Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle School has already been shifted three times in the last 10 years. This has a destabilizing effect on our neighborhoods and our children.

There is ample research indicating that changing schools repeatedly is not only stressful, but actually has a negative impact on student performance, and when such changes are recurring for a peer group, it creates academic problems for the students who move and the students who remain: https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-research-shows-switching-schools-affects-student-achievement/. In other words, stability and student achievement are highly linked.

The current plan to move hundreds of Davis Drive Middle School students to East Cary Middle School is likely to shift again when Allston Ridge Middle School opens in 2019. It is also unclear what operational efficiencies are being gained when East Cary Middle School would immediately be above capacity with students bused in from West Cary and unable to respond to population growth in East Cary.

I consider our school system a community asset: I support school bond proposals and I vote for candidates based on their support for schools. Rather than repeatedly shifting assignment areas due to space limitations at existing schools, I would strongly prefer to see options that manage our population growth through adding more buildings to existing school sites (portable or not), expanding year-round options, and disincentives for the development of new neighborhoods without adequate school capacity. I feel that it's not unreasonable for families to expect that neighborhood schools will be the default option unless they choose to apply to another school or attend a charter or magnet school, particularly in established neighborhoods.

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Ranga Sankar 3 months ago

I live in the WEXFORD community and my son would be going to middle school next year... The 2018-19 proposed changes has my base school reassigned from Davis Drive to East Cary.. East Cary is twice the distance (8+ miles) from the Wexford Neighborhood compared to Davis Drive. In addition East Cary starts at 7 am compared to Davis's start at 8.15 am. The logistics involved in getting to a school that is further off and opens more than an hour earlier is going to extremely challenging for the parents and more so to the kids. Compounding this difficult is the fact the East Cary is year round.. My daughter, who is in college now, was assigned to East Cary for a year when she was in the middle school (2010) and that was a not an experience to remember for any of us. I hope we do not have to endure the same with my son as he gets into middle school next year....I hope the board takes into account the parent's requests and act accordingly.

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Srinivas Tiyyagura 3 months ago

Thank you for providing the opportunity to comment in this forum. I live in Wexford community and the current assignment of Davis drive middle school has been proposed to rezone to East Cary middle school which I would like oppose due to the following concerns. East Cary school is twice the distance of the Davis drive school and there by the travel time increase by thrice. This will have a high impact on several things such as increased stress, not able to participate in the after school activities, spending less time with parents as they get too tired, reduced bed time to catch the bus early morning. I believe these things will have a negative effect on kids development. Also I work in Apex and Davis drive school is on my way and convenient to pick up or drop off and that is one of the reason I choose to purchase home in wexford subdivision 2 years ago. There are other schools such as Alston ridge which I think would be a better reassignment than East Cary. Once again thank you for this forum and I hope the board consider my request to keep Davis Drive as the base school or give us a better alternative like Alston ridge.

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Gillian McDunn 3 months ago

Thank you for offering this forum for feedback about the reassignment plan.

We have lived in Carpenter Village since 2010. We have a 7th grader at Davis Drive Middle and a 5th and 3rd grader as magnet students at Combs Elementary.

I am in agreement with my neighbors -- ECMS is not a good reassignment for Carpenter Village for many reasons:

Stability (future) The 2019 opening of Alston Ridge MS will likely shift enrollment on this side of Cary. The Alston Ridge campus is the closest middle school to our neighborhood. It would be prudent to wait until the Alston Ridge MS plan is drafted before making assignment changes for Carpenter Village.

Stability (past) Carpenter Village has had three different middle school assignments since 2007. If this plan were to be accepted as written, it would be four assignments in a period of just over 10 years.

"True distance" The distance from Carpenter Village to ECMS is 8 miles and the distance to Davis Drive MS is 4 miles... but this does not account for travel time. There is no "straight shot" route from Carpenter Village to ECMS, and without traffic the drive is 25 minutes. Compare this to Davis Drive MS with a drive time of 8 minutes. Further, the Town of Cary has planned growth that would further lengthen travel time, including Wegman's and IKEA coming to the area. These developments will greatly impact traffic conditions, increasing the commute for students and parents.

East Cary MS I have spoken to many families who are thrilled with ECMS, which is designated as a STEM school. I believe the Board should consider supporting a fully funded magnet program at ECMS. Looking at the success of Reedy Creek MS makes me think that ECMS would be a strong contender as a magnet middle school. I understand the music program at ECMS is a real strength and even includes the only steel drum band in the county. What about a music/STEM magnet?

Thank you for considering families' input into this plan. Gillian McDunn

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Srikanth Ladineni 3 months ago

I live in Manchester Park Community. Under the new proposal our base school will be moving from Davis Drive Middle School (Traditional) to East Cary Middle School(Year Round). My daughter will be going to middle school in next 2 year. Iam living in this location from last 6 years, i have chosen this location due to number of factors and one of the primary reason is the School distance from the neighborhood. Due to change in the Base school the distance will increase from 4 miles to 8 miles, Total travel time will be anywhere from 25 to 40 mins without traffic. RTP traffic has been increasing year over year, this travel time will move futher as we do. This travel time will be greatly impact kids and their performance. Also lot of clubs activities in the Middle school that will make parents to pick their children from School will make it harder that will also impact our work schedule. If they miss the bus in the morning, parents have to drop their kids in school in that heavy traffic condition which will impact both kids and parents. The Situation will become worse during Winter time. One of the primary reason Families moving from different states such as California, Texas, Atlanta, New Jersey etc primary due to our great schools standards and mainly travel time to the school. Please Rollback the new proposed school assignments and stay with current base schools. thanks

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Laura Brinn 3 months ago

Thank you for the opportunity to provide feedback on the proposed redistricting plan. I am a resident of Carpenter Village and the parent of a fifth grader at Carpenter Elementary who would be affected by the proposed middle school reassignment from Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle School.

While I recognize the Board’s obligation to balance many considerations in making school assignment decisions, I respectfully request that you not redistrict Carpenter Village children to East Cary Middle School.

It is 3.4 miles from my house to Davis Drive Middle School. A change to East Cary Middle School would increase my child’s future drive to middle school by 132% - to 7.9 miles (using the shortest route according to Google maps).

The increased distance to the school – coupled with East Cary’s 7:00 am start time – would pose a significant hardship as our family would either need to drive 15+ miles and 40 minutes round trip to take our son to school, or put him on the bus at approximately 6 am every day. This would also make it much more difficult for us to volunteer and otherwise be active in the East Cary Middle School community.

Given that we are only in the third year of a seven-year WCPSS enrollment plan, and that Alston Ridge Middle School is expected to open in 2019 serving our area of the county, I urge the Board to revise the proposed redistricting plan to keep Carpenter Village students at Davis Drive Middle School in 2018-2019.

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Jennifer Springer 3 months ago

Thank you so much for giving us this forum to respond to your proposal and have a way to tell you our stories. We appreciate your consideration.

My family has lived in Carpenter Village for eight years. Our younger two children (1st and 4th grades) attend Carpenter Elementary while our oldest is in 7th grade at Davis Drive Middle. We, both students and parents, need to have a sense of connection and ownership of the school communities. Right now, I feel like we have that. We have grown roots here in all that we do and the ways we support our schools and therefore our kids are thriving. Our middle school is close enough that our family can fully participate in the school experience- we attend meetings, after school activities, dance programs, sporting events and still have time for everything else. Moving us to a school over twice the distance (and with a lot of growth in the next couple years, think IKEA and Wegmans) will take that sense of connection away from many families. It will simply be impossible to invest that much time while traveling back and forth when the distance increases by that much. Middle school is hard enough on our children and to propose a move this far will be discouraging for all involved…but especially our children who will have to wake up much earlier, ride a bus a lot longer and make new connections all while trying to navigate their already trying developmental stages.

In addition, our neighborhood has been through 3 separate middle school assignments in just 10 years. No one is complaining about our current middle school, Davis Drive…it is working beautifully and our children and doing extremely well. Changing us again with a brand new school, Alston Ridge Middle, on the horizon opens us up to even further possible changes when the assignments for that school are made. Is it an option to wait until that school opens for us to even address this issue? Alston Ridge Middle, along with many other schools, will be a lot closer options to consider for Carpenter Village if a change is necessary at all.

I respectfully ask that you reconsider this proposal and postpone any decision until Alston Ridge Middle school assignments commence. Thank you again for your time.

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Jerin Lalu 3 months ago

I live in Cedar Bend community. I moved to NC and settled down here because of the proximity of the schools. With this change, our current middle school assignment will change from DDMS to , East Cary will double the distance form our home. Kids will end up spending more time in commute, wasting valuable time and making them less productive while increasing stress. The long commute will also hinder parents' efforts to volunteer in school activities. Please reconsider this decision.

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Kaushik Patel 3 months ago

I live on Trabur Ct, Morrisville in Wexford community. As many other families, I am deeply concerned about the proposed change of base middle school from Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle School. Though I recognize the challenge administrators face to accommodate growth, I fail to see the logic behind the change. The WCPSS website outlines four pillars as reasons for the change. Here are some thoughts I had while reviewing the proposal.

1) Student Achievement - I support improving student achievement for each and every school in WCPSS. However, redistributing students from high performing schools to under-performing schools is not the solution. I am afraid this process will result with an overall lose-lose scenario for WCPSS and its student population. Schools such as DDMS are high performing because of student and parent involvement in many activities both during and after school hours. The amount of time and volunteer efforts put in by both students and parents to increase student achievement should not be overlooked. There will be a direct impact on these efforts if the base school is twenty-five to thirty minutes away, which will be the case for ECMS and Reedy Creek MS. To improve student achievement at schools such as ECMS, administrators should look to model programs from successful schools and find ways to increase parent involvement.

2) Stability - I have been in Wexford for twelve years. It’s disturbing to see school assignments change every few years. Unfortunately, this topic always remains in the back of the minds of those who have been in the WCPSS system for many years. One would hope to have a stable school assignment fourteen years after the community is built. To improve student achievement, it’s essential for students and families to have a stable school assignments. My older daughter is currently in Green Hope High School and graduated from DDMS & Green Hope Elementary school. She still visits both DDMS & GHE and makes an effort to contribute in any way she can to both schools with her time. In addition to school change, the calendar option is also being altered. Families with high school kids will now have to accommodate multiple school calendars. Many kids in middle school also take advantage of summer vacation and participate in lengthy summer camps, international trips, etc. Many such activities will be heavily restricted with the year round calendar option.

3) Operational Efficiency - I believe the frequent reshuffle of school assignments has a direct negative impact on operational efficiency. For example, every time a significant proportion of the student population is reassigned, as proposed in DDMS to ECMS change for Wexford & surrounding communities, PTA members, local businesses that support/sponsor various school programs and after school activities can be disturbed in many ways. This can all lead to lower participation rates and a reduction in student achievement scores. Additionally, in this part of Wake County, Alston Ridge Middle School is scheduled to open in 2019. To improve operational efficiency, it would make more sense to not disturb DDMS and Mills Park Middle School communities this year.

4) Proximity - This is the most important pillar for students & families who make up the population WCPSS board members are elected to serve. Close proximity can positively affect the above three pillars directly. DDMS is 4.2 miles from Wexford while ECMS and Reedy Creek MS are more than 8.5 miles from Wexford. In other words, the proposed change of middle school would double the distance and increase travel time by about 2.5 times. The proposed change will negatively impact student and parent participation in many activities. It is not practical to expect similar participation rates to those seen at Davis Drive when parents have to travel double the distance. Close proximity also improves cost efficiency for the WCPSS transportation department, improves stability for families, reduces travel time and increases student safety.

With the above concerns in mind, I urge administrators to withdraw this proposal and retain Wexford’s assignment to DDMS. I also want to request administrators to find creative solutions for assignments based on school proximity. This will ensure student achievement across the area, create stability and improve operational efficiency for the school system. I am confident that I will see these changes reflected in the county’s upcoming draft to result in a plan that works for everyone. Thank you for your time & efforts for considering input.

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Diane Dennis 3 months ago

I am also a resident of Carpenter Village and find the proposed reassignment from Davis Drive MS to East Cary MS to raise potential undue challenges for many of our residents and their children. The proximity of Carpenter Village, a neighborhood established in the late 90's in West Cary, to the East Cary MS would double the commutes of the children and hamper parental participation in school activities due to the additional distance. As full-time working parents, it is challenging enough to make it to activities, conferences and volunteer opportunities at schools close to your neighborhood let alone on the other side of town. I have lived here for over 12 years and the reassignment of the middle school has happened a number of times during that period. I agree with others posts that it would seem most prudent to wait until the opening of Alston Ridge to determine the impact on the community. Whilst we all also appreciate the need to utilize the resources of the school district to their upmost potential, it would not seem in the best interest of the children and our community to reassign our neighborhood again.

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Stacie Morris 3 months ago

First thank you for providing a forum for feedback. Knowing that you all take the time to listen means a lot. I have lived in Carpenter Village for 14 years. I currently have a 6th Grader at Davis Drive Middle School and a Kindergartener at Green Hope Elementary. The thought of our daughter getting moved to East Cary Middle school which is twice the distance without any traffic than Davis Dr is extremely worrisome. Knowing that she is only a few minutes away if she needs us is a huge. Knowing that her bus ride is only a short distance is another huge deal. Being a family with two working parents and wanting to be part of her education means a lot to us. Being able to participate in school and after school activities, attending meetings and school events is important to our family. Our community is not just where we live its where we chose to put our roots down and raise our family. Knowing that Carpenter Village has been reassigned 4 times in 10 years doesn't provide any stability for our kids and our families. Our kids need stability and a sense of community in order to grow and thrive. Being at Davis Drive for 6th grade and the possibility of moving to East Cary for 7th grade and again the possibility of moving to Alston Ridge for 8th grade means moving a our middle school daughter three times in her three years of middle school. Their is no stability for her and that can't be good emotionally or academically. This is an extremely important time in their lives as they grow and find their way.
I respectfully ask that you reconsider this proposal and postpone any decision until Alston Ridge Middle school assignments commence. Thank you so much. I appreciate you taking the time to listen to us. It means a lot!

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Yi Yang 3 months ago

I am worry about the proposed changes affecting Carpenter Village with a newly assigned middle school. It seems the new assigned school is further than old one, I would prefer my kids spending more time on various after school activities to spending time on road. There must be a better way to re-assign the school district, or open new schools.

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Tushar Acharya 3 months ago

Thank you for the opportunity to express our concerns on the school change proposal. We live in Wexford community and our daughter started middle school this year at Davis Drive Middle. We would like our daughter to continue in DDMS and we are not comfortable with the idea of changing to East Cary Middle.

As cited by many other parents already, changes in school calendar and commute times can severely disrupt student and parents’ schedule, and more importantly student’s learning. Commute is something that happens everyday, hence adds up significantly.

Going from Elementary to Middle School this year is already a change our child is going through. Yet another change next year will make her go through the process again and the time to get accustomed to the new environment will eat into her academic focus and productivity.

We like DDMS as a school and the education it imparts. Schools are one of the main reasons why we decided to buy a house here. If new houses are the reason of overcrowding in schools, then those new neighborhoods/houses need to be considered for appropriate assignments instead of penalizing the existing communities.

If East Cary Middle has unutilized resources and needs to expand in order to achieve better operational efficiency, then the communities in close proximity to East Cary need to be considered for such change, not the communities like Wexford which are further away.

Our sincere request is to kindly consider the above points and not do the reassignment.

Best Regards, Tushar Acharya

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Madhusmita Satapathy 3 months ago

Thank you for creating this forum, enabling us to share our views concerning the recent base school change for our communities.

I live in Wexford subdivision. Like everyone in my community, I was shocked at the recent news that our base Middle school will change from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle! With a painful process of house haunting, yielding all the choices to an option of good base schools in the neighborhood, one has been living in that neighborhood for years with eyes full of dreams to see her child attend those schools. When it is the time, however, the dream shatters, and the eyes open to this sad news!

Not only that, my child just started 6th Grade at DDMS last month, and is not quite settled down with the transition from the elementary school. Along with the physical, mental, and emotional changes at this stage of life, welcoming another transition soon has been a devastating news for my child. I hope all these do not disrupt her academic life. I certainly did not imagine any of this.

Middle School, as I view, is a very critical period in a student’s life marking the beginning of higher learnings and providing a stepping stone to High School. Any disruption during this period is not beneficial to the student, therefore.

Hence, I earnestly request not to proceed with the school assignment.

Kind regards, Madhusmita Satapathy

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As a resident of Cedar Bend community, I strongly opposed to the proposed change of middle school from DDMS to East cary middle school and requesting the board to reconsider this assignment because 1. Change of schools will play lot of effect on kid's emotions
2. Proximity to reach the DDMS is approx 4.5 miles but the East Cary middle is approx 9.5 miles. In terms for travel time DDMS is 8 mins and East cary is 20 Mins. 3. The calendar is changed from Traditional to Year around. Inconvience to both kids and parents with this change. Especially to the parents having two or more kids one going traditional and other/s going middle school which is year around. 4. Due to increase of travel time , after school activities will be effected as well

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Heather Kaufman 3 months ago

Thank you for opening this forum for those of us affected by the possible reassignment for our neighborhood, Carpenter Village. It is so disheartening to think that this is even a possibility being that our neighborhood has been reassigned 4 times in 10 years. I’m commenting on behalf of our neighborhood as a whole, because the reality is is that we’re one of the lucky few that will be grandfathered in and can make the necessary changes in our schedules to get our daughter to DDMS for her 8th grade year. However, I can’t imagine having multiple children, on multiple schedules, attending schools all over town, especially when DDMS is 8 minutes away. A change to ECMS will be so disruptive especially when families are planning their lives, including their work schedules, around a traditional calendar. The distance and time it takes to get to ECMS will make their involvement in the school much more difficult, it causes hardship when trying to manage appointments, early release days, clubs and other activities. I ask that you look at these proposals again and allow Carpenter Village to remain at DDMS. Thank you.

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Madhu Reddy 3 months ago

Hello This is Madhu from Cedar bend community. I really appreciate if you can consider rezoning our neighborhood to align with the current middle school (Davis drive). My kids will be in middle school in couple of years and we have been looking forward to send them to Davis drive as it is traditional calendar and has great academics. It will be very challenging for us to be active members in any of the PTA activities and it will be twice as far away from our home and office. My child is already worried about her friends in the neighborhood get to go to Davis drive and she cannot. This will affect her current studies and stability of the kid.

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Suhasini Jagarlamudi 3 months ago

We live in wexford community and our base middle school has changed from Davis Middle to East Cary and I would like to request to the Board that the proposal be reconsidered. 1. Davis is a traditional school whereas East Cary is a year-round school, it makes it very difficult for the kids and families who are not used to the year-round schools. 2. Moving the kids to East Cary almost doubles the distance when compared to Davis Middle increasing the commute time for the kids. 3. It seems unreasonable to change the school just because another school has decreased enrollment, since we do not have any new schools in our area. 4. A student should be provided with an alternate traditional base school option 5. East Cary rank 73rd of 670 whereas Davis is 6th of 670 .

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PRITPAL GILL 3 months ago

Thanks for the opportunity to provide our feedback regarding the proposed school reassignment. I live on Bender Ridge Dr. in Cedar Bend community. This proposed change affects many of the families in our community as a significant percentage of the kids in our sub division are elementary or middle schoolers. Change of middle school from DDMS to ECMS will cause hardship to many of the families in our community especially when the distance of ECMS is almost double from our community as compared to DDMS. It makes it lot more difficult for the parents and families when they need to visit the school for any school related activities or need to pick their child for appointments etc. It is harder for the parents to volunteer for any school related activities keeping in view the distance and the time it will take for the commute to the school especially when many of the parents are working in the RTP area closer to our community. DDMS has been the traditional middle school assignment for our community since its inception and we would like to keep that continuity and the stability for our community. I would request to please reconsider your proposal and keep DDMS as the middle school assignment for our small community of only 37 families.

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Bhavna Patel 3 months ago

We live in Wexford Community since last 12 years with 2 kids attending Green Hope Elementary and Davis drive middle – Both Traditional option and closer to home. We at Wexford community strongly and respectfully oppose this proposed change from Davis Middle school to East Cary Middle School for this various valid reasons. Distance: East Cary Middle is more than twice as far from my house as Davis Drive is. When I entered my address into Google and searched for middle schools near my address, East Cary Middle doesn't even come up on the first page. There are at least four middle schools closer, if not more. Due to increase of travel time after school activities will be effected as well Traditional vs. Year around: The calendar change from Traditional to Year around creates inconvenience to both kids and parents. Especially to the parents having two or more kids one going traditional and other/s going middle school which is year around. While I understand the county's desire to balance out school attendance, moving Wexford Community to East Cary Middle would create a hardship on residents and children.

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Beth Smith 3 months ago

This is not our first time going through a reassignment and I understand the necessity when new schools are opened such as the opening of our current school, Abbotts Creek, in 2015. However the current reassignments are not associated with school openings.

Our family has two boys at Abbotts Creek Elementary (1st and 3rd grade). As a family we invest a lot of time into the school to help support and develop a school community. I am working parent that also volunteers in the school for multiple hours every week. I don't just volunteer in my children's classrooms, but wherever I am needed. I shelve and repair books in the library, proctor exams, write grants with our Science Specialist, help with fundraising, volunteer at field days, and much more. Additionally our family has helped collect materials for school projects such as "snap-circuits" type kits and others. We donate our time, talents, and money happily to support the school environment that educates and nurtures our children. Being reassigned to a new school (the third elementary school for our oldest) undermines the feel of community and reduces the desire of families like ours to support the school because we have no idea how long we will be there.

Our older son had a rough start to the school year last year. This will happen to most students at sometime or another. Luckily he had teachers and staff from the previous year within the school that he trusted, and felt comfortable talking with. These teachers helped him fully understand the situation and helped suggest ways our son could cope with his new class dynamic. This is something as parents we couldn't help with. We were very grateful that he had other adults he trusted that could help him. If our family starts a new school next year, the same kind of support system will not exist for our children. Stability for students is critical to their success at school and their overall well being.

We currently walk with our children to school, do not depend on bus service, or add to the traffic congestion. The transfer to Fox Rd Elementary will require a significant commute on congested roads. Instead of an additional 20 minutes of exercise each day, our children will spend 30-40 minutes sitting or significantly longer on a bus. The increased daily travel time reduces the number of hours available to work to support our family, and also the available hours to volunteer and support our children's school.

In conclusion, the reassignment plan removes our children from a school in which they are comfortable and successful, and in which our family has invested a significant amount of time and effort. The reassignment plan causes our family financial hardship. The reassignment plan increases our family's burden on already over taxed transportation system. Any potential benefit received from a very few less students in a mobile classroom (likely at Fox Rd) located a great distance further from our home is far outweighed by the negative impacts to our children and family incurred by the proposed reassignment plan.

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Sadaf balighuddin 3 months ago

My son is in DAVIS DRIVE MS and we live in WEXFORD subdivision in Morrisville. Re-assigning his school at this time could cause uncertainty and destabilization on his academic performance. Also, change from one calendar option to another will bring a negative impact on child who never been to year round school. This re assignment will cause stress and lots of other kinds of pressure on child’s mental health. There are other problems we will face including kids which are, long commute time in the bus because Davis Dr MS is 4 miles away from our house and East Cary is 8.1 miles away. if child is staying for after school activity and other siblings are in different calendar option it will create a different problems for everyone. It feels like WCPSS creating a problem for a child and parents and we have humble request to consider everyone's problems before take any decisions

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Suruchi Dave 3 months ago

Hello,

We live in the WEXFORD subdivision and had moved into this house as we would get the Davis Drive Middle School. and I am very disappointed by hearing about our base school from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle. Why would our kids go to a school where they have to travel an extra 4 miles from where they are go right now.
My daughter has all her friends going to Davis Drive and now she will have to move to another school. This is not how the school assignments should be handled. Why would a school that is like 9 miles away assigned to us where as our currently school is only 3.7 miles. Please reconsider this proposal!

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Madhuri Maddukuri 3 months ago

I am a parent in Chessington community in Morrisville and I would like to oppose the change in middle school assignment from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle. The proposed change by the board negatively impacts the kids and thereby negatively effecting board policy on stability, proximity, operational efficiency and student achievement. When there are other middle schools (Mills Park - 5.5 miles, Davis Drive 5.0 miles, West Cary 5.2 Miles) closer to our community, the proposed East Cary assignment does not meet the proximity goal. The kids will spend longer time in the commute and impacts their efficiency thus affecting student achievement. Changing to a year round school will also affect stability. Also, there is a new Alston Ridge MS opening in 2019 which will be closer to us when it opens. It will be very difficult for parents to participate in PTA, volunteer and be part of school activities when it is far away. With the opening of Alston Ridge in 2019, and its assignment zone pending, Chessington community should be left as is. Please reconsider this proposal and leave Davis Drive MS as our base middle school.

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Batul Fatima 3 months ago

I live in the Cedar Bend Community. I strongly oppose the proposal to change our base from Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle. As a parent, This change will tremendously impact my children emotionally and physically. Proximity impacts the commute and eats away into homework time, family time and sleep which all are critical to a growing child's development and will eventually impact their performance. Siblings going into a different middle school+different calendar (year round) will wreak havoc on our family. Hardship of having two children in different calendar options would be unbearable. Please reconsider the proposal.

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Greetings, We currently live in WEXFORD subdivision in Morrisville. Our current base school is Davis Drive Middle School and the proposed new base will be East Cary Middle School. 1) My daughter will finish middle school and enter high school next year. However, my son will be into middle school in 3 years. My daughter will be in a traditional calendar school and based on the proposal of moving our base school to East Cary middle school, my son will end up in a year around school. This is very difficult for us as parents to manage. This will add tremendous amount of stress to the family and will impact the education of kids. 2) Timing: Current timing for DDMS is 8.15 to 3.00 PM and for East Cary Middle School is 7.00 am to 2.15; Here is a quote from Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Morbidity and Mortality weekly Report (accessed on September 27, 2017; https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6430a1.htm) “Adolescents who do not get enough sleep are more likely to be overweight ; not engage in daily physical activity; suffer from depressive symptoms; engage in unhealthy risk behaviors such as drinking, smoking tobacco, and using illicit drugs; and perform poorly in school”. Further they say “In a policy statement published in 2014, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) urged middle and high schools to modify start times as a means to enable students to get adequate sleep and improve their health, safety, academic performance, and quality of life. AAP recommended that "middle and high schools should aim for a starting time of no earlier than 8:30 a.m."; Knowingly how can any parent be at peace with this sort of a change. Please help us and our kids by not disturbing the current assignment. 3) Distance: Distance to currently assigned school (DDMS) is 4.3 miles and to the proposed East Cary Middle School is 8 miles. This is a major concern. This means that the child has a long commute and hence has to get up even earlier. This adds to the discussion in point #2. This also reduces the time available for the child to engage in “ physical acitivity” as more time is spent in commuting. Reduced physical activity has health consequences to the child and economic consequences to our county/state/nation. Also, kids are taught in school and at home, how to care for their environment. By increasing the commute distance and adding more to pollution make us hypocrites. Here is a quote from CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/healthyplaces/healthtopics/children.htm; accessed on September 27, 2017) : “School siting and design are examples of how the built environment can influence children’s health. When new schools are built a long distance from where families live, then children need to be driven to school, depriving them of an opportunity for physical activity, and contributing to air pollution and risk for automobile crashes.” So, please don’t let this happen. I hope the board will consider all these points and prevent negative effects on child’s health and education by not changing the currently assigned school. Thank you, Sincerely, Janardhan

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Siva ram 3 months ago

We live in the wexford community that will be effected by the proposed change from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle. As other families have mentioned here already, we feel that this change creates undue burden on our kid and us. I understand that the board has a tough job dealing with the enormous growth that wake county is having and I see the 4 pillars you are using as a guideline for the redistricting. But I think you are going about the wrong way with improving student achievement. The goal of the school board should be to improve achievement of all students and not individual schools. One of the reasons Davis Drive Middle is high performing is because of the ability of the parents to be involved with the kids and in the school. By doubling the distance and time to travel, the school board is adversely affecting our students. Its reducing the time the students have beyond school and also dis-incentivising parents from participating in PTA. Your video suggests that the change in distance will be no more than a couple of miles. But here it is over 4 miles in distance while going through busy chapel hill rd. Please find alternate methods so we can see improvement in the achievement and balance of every kid.

We will not have the pillar of stability if we keep redistricting and pushing kids all around town every so often. The ideal situation would be to open new schools at the right places and rebalance inside the area of the new school and other schools around them. For that case, maybe you can stop adding new neighborhoods to davis drive this year and rebalance neighborhoods between davis drive and alston ridge when it comes online.

Thank you

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Archana Nayini 3 months ago

I am a resident of WEXFORD community (Ruthwin Drive) Morrisville. We live in this community from past 12 years and seen my elder one graduated from Davis Drive Middle and now in Green Hope High, my younger one who is the 5th grade is so looking forward to join Davis Drive Middle next year and we get this news about proposed change .We would strongly oppose this change of moving our base middle school option from Davis Drive Middle school to East Cary Middle school as 1 . This would double the commute time,East Cary Middle school is almost 8.4 miles away from our house when compared the Davis Drive Middle which is 4.4 miles. This would drastically effect the sleep pattern of our kids and would directly effect their ability to perform in school and other extra curricular activities.

  1. Changing from traditional to year round calendar option is another huge change for both kids and parents, especially for working parents it is difficult to juggle with year round calendar and keep our kids engaged during track outs. For Kids also it is big change to transition from traditional calendar to year round this would have additional burden and cause unnecessary pressure on kids who already have to deal with a transition from Elementary to Middle school.

  2. As my kid heads to middle school next year she would like to take part in various clubs and after school activities . This proposed change would make it difficult for her to participate because of the distance to school which make it difficult for parents to pick them up during peak traffic hours. This proposed change will basically curb our kids enthusiasm to participate and explore different clubs and activities and will have negative impact on kids when middle school is supposed to be building block for high school .

If we really have to go with the re-assignment we would rather prefer to go with traditional option schools with same proximity as Davis Drive middle like Mills park middle school or when we get a new middle school next year which is Alston ridge middle school that’s when we can think about re-assignment.

Please reconsider and KEEP Davis Drive Middle school as the based option for Wexford community and help our kids have a smooth transition to Middle school which is a one of the first major milestone of their school years.

We hope our feedback is heard and Wake county take the best decision keeping our Kids education, health and stability in mind.

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Ramya Tummala 3 months ago

Hello, Thanks for creating this forum for parents to express their views/concerns regarding schools. We live in WexFord community and have a rising kindergarten. We are very concerned about this school rezoning. I agree with parents views above on reassigning middle school from Davis drive to East cary middle and wouldn't want school board to do this. This constant worry about school reassignment based on new neighborhoods is worrisome for parents and putting our kids at constant confusion. Why doesn't school board assign new schools for the newly constructed neighborhoods and leave alone old neighborhoods? Please reconsider this rezoning.

Thanks, Ramya

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Jeongki Min 3 months ago

Hi, I am Wexford Community ( Elmhaven way, Morrisville, NC ) resident. I would like to request you to stop the changing BASE middle school for our Wexford community from Davis Drive middle school to East Cary middle school. Driving Distance will be increased by more than twice. The general performance of both schools are not similar enough. I don’t want my kids waste their time on the road. I hope that you won’t change our current BASE middle school or at least you delay your decision until Alston Ridge MS will open.

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Shawna Murrie 3 months ago

Hello, I am writing to add my voice to the list of concerned parents and citizens from the Carpenter Village neighborhood impacted by the recent decision to reassign our neighborhood school from Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle School. This decision, though I’m sure done with the best of intentions and only because of a lack of other perceivable options, has dramatic social, academic, and economic consequences. The Current Board Priorities are to ensure Student Achievement, Operational Efficiency, Stability and Proximity. However, this proposal doesn’t seem to fall in line with all of those priorities.

First, the four new schools should prove to ease the student population burden. Allowing for a smaller classroom to ensure Student Achievement. Students need structure, and having their academic support system removed so abruptly will certainly cause distress. Students who get less sleep and less time for tutoring or studying, because of longer bus times, will certainly see lower academic achievement. This will not only hurt them and their future, but look bad for Wake County. For a community that relies on their school system to attract and keep residents (and taxpayers), I’m not sure Wake County can afford to risk that.

Secondly, Operational Efficiency and Proximity. With a shortage of bus drivers the proximity of the schools is rather confusing. There are nearly a dozen other schools geographically closer schools for Davis students to attend if they must, yet they are being sent to the furthest possible alternative in the city.

Finally, Stability. The change in middle schools negatively impacts many of us from a social standpoint. Children (who have already had their school changed during grade school) will have to yet again switch locations, teachers and administrative staff, and social and academic support groups. This creates instability. We all know how important community support is for children at this age, and uprooting them can only do harm. In addition to this, the additional time necessary to go to and from school will cause internal familial disruption to routine. Children will need to get up earlier and thus get less sleep. They will get home later and thus have less time for homework, family bonding, and extracurricular or religious activities. In addition, families with children in multiple schools will now have their children spread from one end of Cary to another.

Clearly I am not the only resident expressing discontent about this, and mine is not the only note you will receive. While you are professionals and have certainly carefully considered such a decision, I can’t imagine you expected the blowback you are getting. This is because the various levels of consequence the decision has were likely not foreseen. Please reconsider your decision. If that is not possible, at least delay your decision until Alston Ridge MS opens (as that is another closer school and will again create instability). You are putting an enormous burden on a group of people who has, until now, been your champion. You are losing the trust of a community who supports you. You are alienating your volunteers, taxpayers, and future success stories.

Sincerely, Shawna Murrie Carpenter Village Resident and Parent of Two School-Aged Children

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Sudha Kona 3 months ago

I am a resident of Wexford Community. After searching for homes in and around West Cary for a couple of years we bought a house in Wexford less than a year ago only for our kids to be able to go to Davis Drive Middle School. We now see the proposed plan to change base middle school to East Cary Middle. I am extremely disappointed with the proposed change. I strongly and respectfully object to the proposed change because of the following reasons – 1. Proximity : The proposed middle schools East Cary and Reedy Creek both are almost double the distance from my community and my daughter will end up potentially spending 1 ½ to 2 hours in commute. 2. I am concerned about my daughter spending 1 ½ to 2 hrs in the bus as I am concerned about her safety as I hear from my other friends that a lot of bullying takes place in the bus. Middle school being most prone for bullying, naturally as a mother of a quiet school going daughter, I feel very concerned about her safety. 3. After school activities will be extremely difficult if not impossible for me to manage especially because my husband has a traveling job and I have another toddler daughter. 4. I spend 1 ½ hours to 2 hours to drive to my work every day. I know how tiring it is. I cannot imagine my 11 year old daughter going through the same tiring routine. Moreover if I have to ply my kids to and back from school, I will spend another hour or so on the road. To top this East Cary middle being a year round, it will almost be impossible for me to plan my work effectively. This will completely disrupt my work schedule and I may have to quit to manage my kids schedule. 5. With the East Cary Middle starting an hour earlier than Davis Drive Middle, my daughter has to wake up at 5:30am to be able to catch a bus potentially at 6:15am as our community is among the furthest from the proposed schools. This will result in health concerns for my daughter and subsequently impact her studies and lower her achievement levels. 6. Last but not the least we moved to this community for Davis Drive Middle because of the ratings and its reputation that I believe will be best suited for my daughters. Moving her to a lower rated school will impact her ability to challenge herself and stay motivated.

I urge you to keep Davis Drive Middle as the base school for our community and not disrupt our plans and stability.

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Jennifer Rowen 3 months ago

Thank you for your interest in our feedback! I am a Carpenter Village resident with 2 kids in the WCPSS. We moved here from another state recently, and I am still trying to wrap my head around the complexities in this huge school district; specifically, the sense of instability created by a reshuffling process that appears to happen annually. While I understand that such a large and fast-growing district (I'm part of the problem, I know!) must be nimble for financial and pragmatic reasons, I am hopeful that the flexible nature of your system means you can be responsive to the valid concerns of WCPSS families.

Now, my concern: reassigning the Carpenter Village kids to East Cary from DDMS. I realize I am just echoing the concerns of several other posters from my community, but I urge you to consider the impact of this upheaval on our children and families. The drive to ECMS is too long (especially given the morning rush hour traffic) and seems rather unreasonable for a suburban setting. Google maps shows an 18-minute drive to ECMS from my home. Surely, the bus ride with all the stops and in traffic will mean the children in this neighborhood will spend a lot more time on a bus every day. Also, if I need to take my child to a doctor's appointment, I'll need to plan on a significantly longer amount of my own time to go east to pick him up, drive back west to Duke for the appointment, then east again to drop him back at school, and finally west again to get homel. Crazy, right? It just doesn't seem like a feasible long-term solution.

Again, thank you for reading my comment. I hope our concerns are "heard" and earnestly addressed.

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Chetan Vaidya 3 months ago

I am a resident of Cedar Bend community. This proposal reassigns the middle school for us from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle. This doubles the distance to the school and commute time for students. They will spend more time on bus taking time away from other activities. Increased distance and travel time will also make it difficult for parents to regularly participate in school activities and events. Proximity to school is an important consideration for reassignment and this proposal is not taking that into account. My daughter is on a traditional calendar in elementary school and this proposal forces her to attend a year round middle school. This will be a disruptive change for her and for my family overall. I hope that the administration will reconsider and not go ahead with the proposed reassignment. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to provide my feedback via this forum.

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Usha Naik 3 months ago

I live in Cedar Bend community. This proposal changes our middle school from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle and provides the traditional calendar option as Reddy Creek Middle. The proposal does not take into consideration the proximity factor. Both schools are double the distance from our home compared to Davis Drive Middle. This means kids will have longer bus rides and will have less time for homework and other extra-curricular activities. As a parent I am also very concerned that the proposed reassignment will send students to East Cary Middle and/or Reedy Creek Middle which are low performing schools compared to Davis Drive Middle. Thank you for making this forum available for parents to voice concerns. Please reconsider this proposed reassignment.

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Hemalatha Galla 3 months ago

Hi respected board members, I live in wexford community and I have a daughter who is in 7th grade at Davis drive middle school. The new enrollment proposal of changing the Davis Drive Middle School to east cary middle school as the base school for our community is going to be hard on the kids. It's going to be a big struggle for the kids with this new proposal. The route to east cary middle school is double the distance than Davis drive middle school from wexford community. So I request you to kindly reconsider your decision.

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Manohar Venkataraman 3 months ago

Dear Board Members, I live in Wexford Community, Elmhaven Way , Morrisville , NC and I heard about a proposal to reassign the Middle School from David Drive Middle for our community. This reassignment is being done with no concern and understanding of the time and distance to the new middle school which is supposed to be East Cary Middle. It is a big struggle to fight the traffic and will be traumatic to the parents and kids trying to reach the new school. So, I recommend that Wexford is left with the assignment to David Drive middle school. Please reconsider and bring closure as per all our wishes as noted in these strong feedback to the honorable school board.

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Petros Negussu 3 months ago

We live in the Chessington subdivision in Morrisville. The proposed re-assignment will change our neighborhood from Davis Drive Middle School (Traditional Calendar) to East Cary Middle School (Year Round). We strongly oppose this proposal as it clearly lacks a viable reason that make any kind of sense. Understand you are trying to solve a problem of underachievement more than under enrollment at East Cary Middle school. The solution to East Cary Middle school should not come at the expense/sacrifice of our kids, parents and our property values - we purchased our home at premium price to be in close proximity of the excellent schools close by, not to be assigned to an underachieving school on the other side of town. Our kids should not be used as a solution vehicle while they and us parents are placed in a the most disadvantaged situation. PROXIMITY, a primary consideration for school assignment, is completely ignored here, this is a significant hardship to both our children and us parents. Our kids will need to wake up at least one hour earlier and have already told me they will be exhausted by the time they arrive at their school. They will also arrive home in the afternoon an hour later taking away quality study time. One of our daughters is currently in 3 clubs that meets afterschool, we cannot imagine having to pick her up 3 times a week from a school 9 miles away, with the traffic congestion starting from Morrisville, West Cary, Cary Downtown, to East Cary, it would be a minimum or 35-45 minutes trip one way. We will be forced to have our daughter reduce or stop her after school activity due to this proposed assignment change. PTA and volunteering participations for us parents is not going to be practical. The calendar change is hardship on our family financially, our kids spend their summer with their grandparent in another state, the proposed re-assignment means we will need to arrange for local day care for the 3-5 week track out periods that occur 4 times in a year round calendar. It makes more sense to re-assign our neighborhood when the new middle school, Alston Ridge Middle which is planned to open in 2019 as it is of similar proximity to Davis Drive Middle. It makes no sense to re-assign out neighborhood for just 1 year and change again, this violates another primary consideration in student assignment - STABILITY . Middle school is a crucial period of growth for kids in both their education and social engagement - stability plays a significant role in this period. We ask that you use some common sense and defer your current re-assignment proposal. Keep our kids at Davis Drive Middle School and revisit again when it make sense to do so - when you open a new Middle School.

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Vikram Indukuri 3 months ago

WEXFORD subdivision: Cary/Morrisville over the decade always supported and strong on better living and quality time with family with shorter commutes

either to work or kids school commute. Cary/Morrisville over the years used to never give approvals to regain the values of houses and also

allocate schools which are not too far from their homes. This change is the other way around now and could impact families one way or the other

Some people have moved so that they could spend quality time with family while spouses travel weekly to other states/cities. Allocating East cary

would not only cause trouble to families living in our neighbour hood but this would impact traffic, kids being late and don't have any other

things to do.

Please consider

Already traffic congestion

Longer commutes

Unwanted stress on kids - ill consequences

Middle school is when kids learn the most

Travelling parents/spouse for work/businesses to other cities will have to face problems

Serious disruption of children, relationship

Impact on existing home owners

Impact on work life balance

Parents/Teacher meetings to East cary due to traffic congestion - because its way out from our community.

Siblings friends are different due to this rezoning

Impact on school home works because late and tired after school. Middle is when they get lot of work to do.

We would be first/last bus stops. Wake up early and come late

Re-allocating once people move-in so that again they have to move due to constant re-allocation

SUPPORTING new builders

This is against STABILITY which the city always says

Family efficiency

Kids sleep

Impact on other activities after school

Missing friends

Parents who volunteer at the school - wouldn't due to traffic

DISAPPOINTMENT DISAPPOINTMENT DISAPPOINTMENT DISAPPOINTMENT

To me it doesn't make sense for our kids to goto school that far. Please reconsider the proposal and keep Davis Drive as our middle school.

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Cynthia Luke 3 months ago

As a residence of Legacy at Carpenter Village, I am very concerned about the change from Davis Dr. Middle school to East Cary Middle school. I have 2kids, one is in Davis Drive Middle and secone one is in Green Hope Elementary. Traditional calendar option is very important to our family life style. If we have to go to ECM, we'll have hard time to care of the kid who in year round calendar. And East Cary Middle is more than twice as far away from our home as Davis Drive Middle. That means kids have to spend over an hour on the bus for round trip every day. It becomes nearly impossible to participate and volunteer in school activities. I hear that there is a new traditional school , Alston Ridge Middle opening in 2019 which will be closer to us. please wait making decisions until Alston Ridge opens.

Please consider our requests and do not reassign Legacy at Carpenter Village at this time

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Satya Sirigineedi 3 months ago

We live in WEXFORD subdivision, are effected by the proposed change. We would strongly oppose this change because

1.       Distance – The travel time and distance between my home, school and work is encouraging us to participate all school activities, especially participation in PTA, this change totally discourage even to attend teacher parent conferences. 2.       After School activity – As travel time increasing (8 vs 4 miles, & traffic congestions around)  and also the school timings, due to this change, the kids will not able to actively participate in sports if they are getting up early and spending lot of time in travel. This severely impacts their life style, eventually wellness of a kid. 3.       Kids Dream - Generally, every kid will grow up with ambition of wants to be an engineer, doctor or scientist but my younger kid who is in elementary; his dream is to go Davis Middle just because his sibling or neighborhood kids went to Davis middle. What I’m going to say or how I’m going to fulfill his/her very small dream or ambitions? I kindly request you to rethink or withdraw this proposal of school re-assignments or mapping.

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Brian Chang 3 months ago

I live in Morris-West neighborhood in Morrisville. I have a 7th grader currently going to Davis Drive Middle, and I have 2 younger kids planning to attend DDMS in a few years. When I got the email from the WCPSS and saw East Cary Middle came up in our address lookup, I simply could not believe it. I kept on telling myself that this has got to be a system error in the database. I never thought this could be true as it didn’t make any sense.

East Cary is twice the distance of Davis Drive and it starts 1 hour and 15 minutes earlier. There’s also no straight route from Morrisville to East Cary. The traffic between these two area is always congested. That means my kids will need to get up at 5 AM and spend more than double the time riding the bus. Also it would be very difficult for our kids to participate in after school activities, for parents to volunteers or just need to pickup/drop off kids to appointments which are usually around where we live.

If the board’s intention was to increase enrollment of East Cary MS, there are a number of better options to achieve that goal. It’s better to attract students to it other than forcefully moving students far away into it. If you have to move students, there are much closer candidates from surrounding area instead of busing kids from our area which is 8 miles away.

If the board’s intention was to address the crowding of Davis Drive MS, then the new school ALSTON RIDGE Middle (on TRADITIONAL calendar) opening in 2019 will solve the problem. The new school is the same distance of Davis Drive MS. If the board needs to move us out of Davis Drive MS, moving us to Alston Ridge is the best option. The board will need to decide its attendance area next year. What’s the rush to make this assignment now? What’s so urgent that this can’t wait till next year to evaluate attendance area of Davis Drive Middle and Alston Ridge Middle? Currently Davis Drive Middle is not capped, it still has the capability to serve its current base area. Also, we could USE TRAILER to increase capacity if needed while we wait for the new school to open. According to the board’s presentation, if we use trailer, Davis Drive’s capacity NEVER EXCEED 100%. It is also much better to CAP Davis Drive Middle like you do for many other schools and have new student attend alternate schools instead of changing our base school assignment and taking away our traditional school option and throw well established routines into chaos.

Not only the proposal doesn’t solve any existing problems, it creates many new problems. Based on the projection the board provided, East Cary MS will be overcrowded and Davis Drive MS will be under-enrolled.

The proposal clearly doesn’t meet any of the 4 pillars that the board is supposedly trying to achieve: Student Achievement, Stability, Proximity and Operational Efficiency.

STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT: Student achievement is not to be confused with school achievement. Getting up 2 hours earlier, spending more than double the time on the bus, I’m sure it doesn’t help our kids achievement in any way.

STABILITY: Forcefully moving our kids from their current base school to a new school and different calendar (traditional vs year round) certainly doesn’t add any stability. If anything, it destroys well established stability for 1000+ families.

PROXIMITY: Davis Drive Middle is 4 miles away from my house while East Cary Middle is 8 miles! There are at least 4 Middle schools (including Alston Ridge Middle) in our area closer than East Cary Middle. WCPSS proposal does not take into account of proximity and our kids needs for sleep, time to do homework, school activities, parent participation….

OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY: Doubling the distance for bus rides certainly doesn’t help operational efficiency.

I sincerely request school board to keep our base school of Davis Drive Middle and re-evaluate the enrollment situation at Davis Drive next year when you determine attendance area for Alston Ridge Middle. If it’s absolutely necessary, assigning currently affected areas to Alston Ridge next year will be much better received.

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Shekhar Mishra 3 months ago

My neighborhood is Chessington. In this proposal, my neighborhood middle school changes from Davis Drive to East Cary Middle School.

Any changes in schooling is an extremely big decision for any parent - it impacts the career of their child, especially middle school is when these students learn and grow and lay the foundation for their future. Keeping this in mind, we moved 5 years back when my son was 4 to this neighborhood. School system is by far the biggest criteria for buying a house and I feel like we have been blind sided here. I dont really care about devaluation of my house or anything cause I am not planning to move or anything but what I do care about is my child's future. My son has most of his extra circular activities right after school between 5 and 7 PM. East Cary Middle is more than twice as far from my house as Davis Drive. What that means is he will now spend over an hour each way sitting on a bus and by the time he gets home he will have no energy to do anything - school homework, sports, playing with friends. We are taking all that away from our children. I am sure there must have been some good logic in making this change. I request the school system to let us know what exactly are we gaining from this change and is that worth moving so many students. Even if there are 1000 students impacted, it is over 2000 hrs each day that these students will waste sitting in bus. I hope the reasons are worth taking away this precious time from these students.

I would respectfully request the school authorities to reconsider this decision. Please keep our students close to our neighborhood - preferably David Dr. Thank You.

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Holly Alberts 3 months ago

Our son attends Abbotts Creek Elementary as his calendar option. Due to the new NCGA class size demands, he is slated for reassignment to Fox Road Elementary for 2018-2019. We have several concerns with this proposal that WCPSS has put forth.

Durant Road is our assigned base school, and we specifically chose traditional calendar schools for both of our children to eliminate disruption as our daughter enters high school in 2018-19. With this proposal, our son will continue changing schools every 2 years through completion of elementary school. We were disappointed to see that past grandfathering rules for rising 4th and 5th grades are not being offered, disproportionately affecting rising 4th graders.

Our neighborhood is across the street from Abbotts Creek, and we frequently walk or ride our bikes to school. A reassignment to Fox Road Elementary would eliminate our opportunity to walk to school, significantly increase travel time, and require bussing at additional cost to the district.

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Brian Chang 3 months ago

I'm glad to see there's NEWS COVERAGE on the reassignment of Davis Drive Middle students:

http://wncn.com/2017/09/21/parents-react-to-new-wake-county-school-assignment-plan/

Please view, share, and like if possible to encourage reporters to stay on this story. They were fair to point out why current proposal is drawing criticism from parents. The interview to Bill Fletcher is encouraging where only the objective is locked in while the method is still up for debate and he is doing more studying. Another compelling reason the reporters fail to note is that with Alston Ridge Middle coming online just 1 year from our reassignment, it's better for everyone if DDMS adds trailers for next year and reassign currently affected neighborhoods to Alston Ridge Middle when they do assignment next year.

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Linda Gonzalez 3 months ago

I moved a year ago to Carpenter Village (Cary) from New York. It took my daughter time to adjust. She is finally at a place where she loves going to school at Davis Drive Middle School and excelling. She came home crying when she found out from other students the possibility of having to go to another school. It is very disheartening that this can not only disturb her emotionally but that she will be 1/2 hour away from my home going to East Cary which is year round. I have a son who has special needs at Green Hope Elementary which is traditional year school. He needs to stay where he is because of his services. This will be very difficult for me to get my kids to and from school and be on opposite calender's. Another thing is I know that Alston Ridge Middle School will be opening in 2019. If that opens it looks like we will be in the same boat again and having to reassign schools. Instead of relocating students now I think it would be a better idea to wait and see how that goes. Doesn't make sense to move students now to just do it again in two years.

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KM MS 3 months ago

THIS is what you're proposing to take away from Carpenter Village, now?? Please let us stay at Davis Drive! We moved here SPECIFICALLY for top school quality - there are few things more important! http://www.wral.com/davis-drive-middle-in-cary-among-6-nc-public-schools-chosen-for-national-honor/16980422/

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Emily Valentine 3 months ago

I am a resident of Carpenter Village with 2 children currently enrolled at Carpenter Elementary school, and one child in preschool. My oldest will enter middle school in the 2019-2020 school year. I am concerned because with the current proposal, Carpenter Village will have had 4 assignment changes in just over 10 years. WCPSS is in the third year of a seven-year enrollment plan. In 2019, Alston Ridge Middle School will open, reshuffling students in this part of the county. When students are moved, all area schools will be affected. Therefore, Carpenter Village should remain at Davis Drive MS until it is clear how enrollment will be affected and how students will be moved. Reassigning at this juncture would undermine the stability and the proximity pillars of the School Board reassignment plan, looking forward. Close proximity and stability are very important to us as a family. We are very active in our school community, and attending a school that is not close in proximity to our home would limit our involvement as parents and as well as limit our children's involvement in school activities. Neighborhood schools are important to me as it helps strengthen social development for children, going to school and living in close proximity to their peers. Additionally, stability of school assignments will help all of my children to succeed in school, but especially my child who is prone to anxiety and thrives in a dependable schedule and knowing the schools will remain the same will cut down on anxiety around transitions from year to year.

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ANIL PATEL 3 months ago

We are residents of Wexford. It is not a good idea to make the proposed change as most of us bought a house here for our kids schools and education. Now the proposed change moves kids from a 4 mile Davis Drive Middle school to 8 mile far East Cary Middle school. We have other close by schools like Mills Park Middle as well. It is definitely not a good idea to make this change. We urge you to keep the current Davis Drive Middle School for our Wexford community.

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Ashwin Mamidala 3 months ago

We are residents of the Wexford community in Morrisville (on Elshur Way). The current middle school assigned is Davis Drive and been proposed to change to East Cary. East Cary school is twice the distance from our community when compared to Davis Drive. This creates lot of issues to our kids in terms of time spent in commuting and affecting their afterhours activities. Davis Drive is a traditional school and East Cary is year round. The proposed change is not a good one for our kids. We have other schools close by such as the Mills Park and Reedy Creek. Request you to reconsider your decision and retain Davis Drive as our Middle School

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Kimberly Kenna 3 months ago

I am a resident of Carpenter Village writing to ask that you reconsider the proposed change that would reassign the middle schoolers in my neighborhood from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle. My own children will not be in middle school for many years, and there is potential this change will never directly impact my children (as it seems likely that another change will occur to Carpenter Village again by that time given past trends and future developments already in plans such as Alston Ridge Middle). However, I feel strongly compelled to advocate for the other children in my neighborhood about this particular proposal. My concerns stem primarily from two facts: 1) East Cary’s proximity is completely on the other side of town from our community adding unnecessary burden on these children and their families & 2) East Cary’s start time is already way earlier than the start time recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics without the added burden of a lengthy commute to arrive at school on top of that. This article by the AAP is worth a good read when considering this proposal and the impact it will have to the students in Carpenter Village: https://www.aap.org/en-us/about-the-aap/aap-press-room/pages/let-them-sleep-aap-recommends-delaying-start-times-of-middle-and-high-schools-to-combat-teen-sleep-deprivation.aspx.



Carpenter Village is a tight knit community. I care about the success of these kids and their families that will undoubtedly be negatively impacted by this proposed change if it passes. Many of these families are dual income or single parents who also still manage to place a priority on parental involvement in their children’s schools. I know these caring people will feel the tremendous stress of juggling career and involvement in multiple schools and multiple children’s schedules that will now be completely across town from each other. I secondarily worry that this could essentially break apart this wonderful community whom are like my extended family. Our children have grown up together and support one another. There is no value that can be placed on a ‘village’ like this. It’s not unreasonable to imagine that after a year or two of trying to make it work with this new schedule, my neighbors will one by one feel forced to make a move they don’t really want to make just to be in a home whose school assignment does not have them spending so much of what should be their quality family time instead in a car driving back and forth across town. We only have so much time on this flying rock and I think we owe it to our community to put in place plans that emphasize the appropriate value on quality family time and community time during these few precious years where our children are shaping who they will be for the rest of their lives.

I truly hope you will reconsider the assignment of Carpenter Village middle school students with the above in mind. I thank you for listening and for working together with the community to assess and determine the combination that will best benefit the whole of Wake County students and their families.

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Kreg Gresham 3 months ago

I am writing to strongly urge you to reconsider the proposal to move my communities base Middle School from Davis Drive, to East Cary. I have to admit that I am quite confused as the the new school zoning plan as it appears have taken no consideration the burden that will be placed on families in the future. Simply put, school assignments, should be based upon proximity to your home and community. Drive is ~ 5 miles from my home and only an 8 minute commute. My son rides the bus and we are very comfortable that he is not having to wake up very early and be on a bus for an extended period of time. He is home by 3:20 each day, has plenty of time for homework, before having to attend sports and extra-curricular activities. East Cary is on the other side of town, nearly 3 times the distance and 3 times the commute. This will add to extended bus rides, earlier wake up, less time for schoolwork when he gets home and potentially later bed times, due to having to finish what work he did not complete.

In addition, going into the 6th Grade, he was very apprehensive about a new school, new teachers and new people. However, he has settled into the new environment and is making better grades, showing more interest in school and experiencing success in the classroom, on a daily basis. I see him taking more responsibility for what needs to be accomplished, not just in school, but also at home. This has been a significant turnaround for him and I am urging you to reconsider this proposal, as it would require him to start all over again. He is comfortable with his new school. He is showing tremendous progress in a very short period of time. This new proposal will put him back into a state of apprehension and doubt, which will significantly undermine the progress he has made.

Again, we, the residents of Wexford Community urge you to reconsider the reassignment proposal. Moving to East Cary will place significant burdens on our kids, our families and our community. Davis Drive is our new home and our new family..one in which we desire to keep. Thank you for your considerations.

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Lynn Tate 3 months ago

Stability is a supposed to be a key factor in determining school assignments, yet this seems to be ignored when it comes to Carpenter Village. While other larger developments in our area have had 1 or 2 changes (or none), this will be Carpenter's 4th middle school assignment since 2009. In addition to changes in schools, we've been changed from traditional, year-round, traditional and now, again, to year round. In addition, to being assigned to 3 different schools (West Cary, East Cary and DDMS), you are now proposing to assign us to a fourth school (Reedy Creek).

My understanding is that this is being done due to under enrollment for East Cary. However, have you heard about the changes coming for Cary / our area? 1) New middle school (Ashton Ridge) 2) Downtown Cary is now the hottest market in Wake County. Properties are being sold within 24 hours and most are by developers who are building new, high-end homes. 3) IKEA - Real Estate around the proposed IKEA store (and Wegmans) is starting to sell very quickly and 4 new developments are proposed.
4) The projected enrollment in DDMS is expected to drop (per WCPSS).

You now have a population explosion expected for 'inner Cary' which could fill the schools on the East side of Cary and additional space projected at a middle school (DDMS). I know we are a convenient, 1-2 bus-full, affluent neighborhood with high achieving children, but please stop using us as a band-aid - plugging us in where it is convenient for you. More change is coming and there is no reason to move Carpenter Village at this time.

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Wendy Pizzo 2 months ago

Yes to ALL of this!!

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Sam Engel 3 months ago

The members of the WCPPS Board of Education have a huge and often thankless job on their hands. They are tasked with balancing many important areas that open the door to impacting families across many fronts. Their every move is carefully scrutinized across many fronts. For all they do, I am thankful. The issue I speak to is the WCPSS 2018-19 Enrollment Proposal that includes the change in the base school location where students now attending DDMS would be relocated to ECMS (certainly recognizing that grandfather and other scenarios make it possible to get around the new placement requirement ). Many concerned parents have already posted concerns of which many relate to the latter three of the four listed priorities, b. Stability, c. Proximity, and d. Operational Efficiency. Their collective voices make it quite clear that this proposed move is detrimental to all of the subdivisions where families now send their children to DDMS. What I have not seen addressed to the extent of the others is area a. Student Achievement. It is clear to me (and I am not a parent but speaking only as a concerned citizen) that the changes placed in the proposal specific to base school locations (DDMS to ECMS) would be very helpful in addressing the first priority of Student Achievement from the point of view specific to the Board’s mission. Take care to be respectful that their mission is in balancing the needs as they see them. This initial priority partially states that an important function of the Board is to create policy that focuses on 1) “minimizing high concentrations of low-performing students at each school, and in 2) minimizing high concentrations of students from low income families at each school.” Asking families from a collection of neighboring subdivisions where incomes, education attainment, home values, and academic scores across various achievement exams are quite high opens the door for difficult adjustments that promise to negatively impact their family as well as their direct community involvement. This type of disruption is a high price for that group to swallow as well as to bear. I have found over the past nine years (Chessington Subdivision) that families in this area near the RTP are methodical in their planning relative to everything in their lives (where to buy a home, for example) and particularly diligent in all they do relative to raising their children. This is abundantly clear from reading many posts that emphasize how families are already distraught about the impact the base school change will have on their lives across the priorities of Stability, Proximity and Operational Efficiency. I request that the Board consider the high price they ask of the impacted families who will bear the brunt of this enrollment proposal specific to changing the current base school of DDMS to ECMS. Also, placing that level of weight primarily on the backs of a current subset of 6th, 7th, and 8th graders (isn’t middle school tough enough already?) doesn’t sit well with me. As mentioned above, I see where the move will likely be helpful in the area of increasing equity regarding student achievement as well as in balancing the percentage of students on free/reduced lunch across WCPSS schools. The price, however, that family life, community, and yes, perhaps even some home values, is just too high. I argue for leaving base school assignments for middle grades students attending DDMS where they currently reside.

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Melanie Rudd 3 months ago

I appreciate the opportunity to provide feedback on this proposal. And I understand the situation Wake County is in given the tremendous growth and inability to build schools fast enough to keep up with that demand. My family joined the Wake County Public School System in 2011 when my daughter started Kindergarten. At that time the method implemented by Wake County for school selection was “choice” Based on feedback from other parents and our own research, we chose to send our daughter to Willow Springs Elementary, one of the 5 options available to us.

The year-round calendar is appealing to and has worked well for our family. We believe that the shorter breaks allow for less “learning loss” and, as a family with 2 working parents, it also allows us to spread daycare costs over the course of the year. We have felt the year-round calendar has been beneficial for our daughter and wish to continue with year-round school for our 6 year old son who is currently in first grade at Willow Springs.

With my daughter having spent all 6 years of her elementary school education at Willow Springs, we have developed relationships with teachers and other faculty, office staff, the principal and other students and their parents. My son has now had the same teachers my daughter had for both Kindergarten and First Grade. This has made the transition from daycare to school easier on him and us.

My daughter will be going off to Middle School next year and be moving to traditional calendar. However it is our strong desire to keep our son on the modified calendar. It is also our desire to keep him at the school we have grown to know and love for many reasons. With the proposed changes, my son is slated to be moved to Ballentine Elementary. In researching Ballentine when we first joined the school system and again now with the proposed changes, I see that Ballentine has significantly lower rankings across several areas when compared to Willow Springs. This does not seem to meet the standard for the pillar of Student Achievement.

Our other option is to request a transfer to Fuquay Varina Elementary. Fuquay Elementary also has lower rankings across the board when compared to Willow Springs. The traditional calendar provided at FVES would make for a consistent schedule with my daughter, however again, we wish to remain on the modified calendar. Unfortunately, I’m told that schools don’t make their track assignment decisions until “later in the spring” for the upcoming school year. I am also of the understanding that the period for transfer requests runs February 20 – March 6. This puts me in a position of not being able to make an informed decision about which school to send my son to (if we are indeed forced to move) because the transfer period will end before he would be assigned a track. With my daughter going on traditional calendar Track 4 is the optimal track so they have some consistency with schedules. Tracks 1 & 3 are other less viable but potential options. Track 2 would leave our children on completely different schedules and have a major negative impact on our family. Track assignments should be made prior to the end of the transfer request period so that parents can make informed decisions. The fact that this does not seem to have been considered (based on my call to the school system information line) as part of this proposal displays a clear element of poor planning.

My daughter and son are thriving at Willow Springs Elementary. That, to me, meets the pillar of student achievement. WESE also meets the pillars of Stability and Proximity for our family. I implore Wake County to maintain the pillar of Stability and the stay where you start thinking and grandfather children (with transportation) to Willow Springs. There has to be a better solution to the current growth issue than to juggle this number of school children just as they are getting comfortable and confident in their learning facility.

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Ramesh GopalaSwamy 3 months ago

We live in the Wexford community (Elmhaven Way) in Morrisville, NC. Our daughter goes to Davis Drive Middle School (DDMS). At very outset, we would like to express our utter disappointment that there is a proposal by Wake County to change our base middle school from Davis Drive to East Cary. Davis Drive Middle is located conveniently close to our neighborhood and has been the base middle school from the very beginning when Wexford community was established. The proximity of DDMS to our neighborhood has been a blessing to our children in regards to minimum commute times, which in turn enables the children to better focus on their studies and extra-curricular activities. Longer commute times to and from schools unnecessarily tire the students and limit the time they could spend on activities beyond the regular school. It needs to be emphasized that the proposed East Cary Middle School is nearly twice as far as DDMS from our neighborhood. This proposed change is NOT very productive in terms of helping our children to spend their time effectively and efficiently focusing on their school work and extra-curricular activities. Our first daughter also went to DDMS. Thus, we have a long and productive relationship with DDMS and their staff. Proximity to the school also enabled us to volunteer in several of the school events. One cannot under emphasize the importance of parent volunteers towards the success of the schools and the development of the children. We hope Wake County considers these points as well in reassigning base schools for neighborhoods. We request the Wake County to reconsider their proposal to reassign our community base middle school from Davis Drive to East Cary. Thank you.

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Allison Wasko 3 months ago

Dear Board of Education and Assignment Office Staff:

I am a resident of Carpenter Village and a parent of two Davis Drive Middle School (DDMS) students. Under the proposed 2018 School Reassignment Plan, Carpenter Village’s assignment changes to East Cary Middle School (ECMS). We all want the same outcome for students – a strong education and a sense of wellbeing. Thank you for considering my concerns.

It is premature to evaluate where the best, long-term and proximal assignment solution is for Carpenter Village at this early date. There are many unknowns about how active development on both sides of town will increase enrollment opportunities close to home and create enrollment and travel challenges across town at ECMS as early as 2019. With all these unknowns in play, I request that you please keep Carpenter Village middle school students where they’re invested, at Davis Drive Middle School.

My children are devoted to the DDMS community. My son is a member of DDMS’s student council and plays in the band. My daughter immerses herself and finds community in the school’s Fine Arts Department. She hopes to make the basketball team and run track this year. Because DDMS is just 3.7 miles away and a quick 8-minute car drive from home, they are able to participate in after-school activities and can be flexible about after-school commitments on campus, even at the last minute. This proximity allows neighborhood parents to support our kids and school community by volunteering, attending meetings, curriculum nights, open houses, sports, and performances. It also makes unavoidable orthodontist and pediatric appointments less intrusive to vital classroom time.

This is harder to express, but allow me to try. I love that my kids get to go to the same school. It gives them an intangible and invaluable golden thread that ties their experience. They connect over shared school legends such as how “the pencil” got stuck the lunchroom ceiling and discuss favorite teachers like Mr. Allen and Mrs. Schoonover. Reassigning one child breaks a beautiful common denominator. It’s a legacy factor that if deleted, further separates siblings and neighbors. We all crave connection, similarities, and a stable common ground. It’s the foundation of community and must be honored and protected.

In contrast, ECMS is far. It’s an indirect, traffic-heavy route from Carpenter Village. Door to door times can be 25 minutes by car or more. That’s a 50 minute round trip; one that may increase as explosive growth in that general area does.

Game-changing, mixed-use development is underway in Cary’s “Gateway to the East”. The town's planning website shows high-density housing developments, town homes, and apartment complexes are already in the zoning phase within 4 miles of ECMS. ECMS, by design, cannot rapidly adjust to a rapid population growth with overflow trailers. This sets the stage for enrollment challenges and another disruption of Carpenter Village’s assignment continuity in the very near term. Here on the west end of town, ground broke on Alston Ridge Middle School (ARMS) just four miles away. School enrollment will shuffle in all nearby schools when ARMS opens in 2019, creating enrollment opportunities.

In the name of student stability, please press pause on Carpenter Village’s reassignment until all these unknowns become clearer.

Thanks for your time and your consideration.

Regards, Allison Wasko

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Colleen Shaughnessy 3 months ago

I am writing to provide feedback to the 2018-2019 Reassignment Proposal. Specifically, regarding the reassignment of the Carpenter Village neighborhood to East Cary Middle School from its current assignment of Davis Drive Middle School. I believe this proposed reassignment violates multiple pillars of the WCPSS Board Priorities:

Stability: Carpenter Village has already been reassigned 4 times in the past 10 years and Alston Ridge Middle School is slated to open in the fall of 2019. At that time ARMS will actually be the closest middle school to our neighborhood and will undoubtedly cause additional reassignments in the western part of Cary again. We urge you to postpone any reassignment of Carpenter Village until at least next year when it becomes clearer how the assignment of neighborhoods will be affected by the opening of this new school.

Proximity: There are currently 5 middle schools closer to Carpenter Village than ECMS. Once Alston Ridge opens, there will be 6. The 7AM start time of ECMS will require students in our neighborhood to be at the bus stops prior to 6AM due to the 9 mile drive with stops to ECMS. The trip across town is meandering with many turns as compared to the quick North/South drive from our neighborhood to DDMS or ARMS, both of which are between 3 and 4 miles away. Carpenter Village parents are historically very involved in our community schools, but the distance to ECMS will make that level of involvement unfeasible. Additionally, the children will undoubtedly spend about 2 hours per day on school buses, which wil