UPDATE SEPT. 18 - Draft 2

  • The school board received Draft 2 of the 2019-20 Student Enrollment Proposal on Tuesday, Sept. 18.


    Look up your address to see your proposed assignment in Draft 2 of the proposal. 


    Here are the main changes recommended in Draft 2:

    • The following neighborhoods would remain based at Cedar Fork Elementary and West Cary Middle instead of being assigned to Parkside Elementary and Alston Ridge Middle School:
    • Families in the Parkside Elementary base attendance area would have the option to apply to Pleasant Grove Elementary as a traditional calendar application school, as well as Powell Magnet Elementary. Under this proposal, Pleasant Grove calendar application students would not receive district transportation while Powell students would. SHARE YOUR FEEDBACK
    • A portion of the Poe Elementary base would be assigned to the new Southeast Raleigh Elementary. SHARE YOUR FEEDBACK
    • The Draft 1 proposal for all students in the Southeast Raleigh Elementary base attendance area to be assigned to Centennial Middle and Southeast Raleigh High will be phased in, instead of happening immediately. SHARE YOUR FEEDBACK
    • A downtown Raleigh area assigned to Turner Creek Elementary would be assigned to Conn Elementary, Centennial Middle and Southeast Raleigh High beginning 2019-20. Draft 1 had recommended making this change in 2020-21. SHARE YOUR FEEDBACK

    Other considerations

    We have received a good deal of feedback online regarding some of the proposed changes.


    We are not recommending any additional changes at this time, but our staff is continuing to review information regarding proposed assignments from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle and from Mills Park Elementary and Middle to Carpenter Elementary and Alston Ridge Middle (Cameron Pond neighborhood.)


    Today’s presentation contains staff responses to the proposed changes that have prompted the most feedback. 


    What happens next?

    Parents can continue to share their feedback on this forum.


    We also have scheduled four public meetings where parents will have an opportunity to learn more information and share feedback in person.


    Please note that each of these meetings will have a specific topic focus. Please attend the meeting regarding the proposal that applies to you. If you attend a meeting focused on a topic that does not affect you, there will be student assignment staff available to help answer your questions.

    • Sept. 24 - Cary High School, 638 Walnut St., Cary - TOPIC: Proposed assignments related to East Cary and West Cary Middle schools, as well as proposed calendar application school changes.
    • Sept. 26 - Wakefield Middle School, 2300 Wakefield Pines Drive, Raleigh - TOPIC: Proposed assignments to relieve overcrowding at Heritage High School.
    • Oct. 1 - Apex High School (Green Level campus) - 7600 Roberts Road, Cary - TOPIC: The opening of the new Green Level High School. Information will be presented about likely academic and extracurricular offerings in the first years of the school.
    • Oct. 3 - Panther Creek High School - 6770 McCrimmon Parkway, Cary - TOPIC: Proposed assignments related to Alston Ridge Middle School and Parkside Elementary School.

    Draft 3 will be presented to the board on Oct. 16, and the board will then begin working toward a final plan. A vote is expected on Nov. 20. View full timeline.

     

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Draft 1 of the 2019-20 Student Enrollment Proposal was released on Aug. 21.

This is the beginning of a community discussion about the best ways to fill new schools opening in 2019 and to make the best use of existing school facilities. We are committed to ensuring that every child in Wake County attends an excellent school, no matter where they live.

We strive for a collaborative and transparent process. On this forum, we encourage you to find the topic thread that applies to you, then ask questions and provide feedback. School district staff and board members monitor this site regularly.

We will be able to respond directly to questions of process or clarification. We will answer more detailed questions in a frequently asked questions document.

Some students currently attending Davis Drive Middle are proposed to attend East Cary Middle starting in 2019-20.

Share your feedback and questions about this proposal below.

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Hu Huang about 1 month ago

I was shocked to see my son's base school has been proposed to change from DDMS to ECMS, which is 1 mile versus 6 miles away from our house, I do not understand how this draft was made and based on what measures, it just does not make any sense. As parents, we should make an argument or appeal to this draft for families who live in the DDMS surrounding area, since it will affect kids and parents' morning schedule and literally our life in a significant way.

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Angela Froese about 1 month ago

My daughter starts at Davis Middle this year and I am being told that they would move her next year to East Cary. We have ALWAYS been Davis Middle and had 2 other children go through the school. We are walking distance from the school and live at Davis and Waldo Rood. How can they change my daughter in 7th Grade? Middle school is a volatile time and they are going to move my child in the middle of it? Who gets to make these decisions for my family? We are not moving but we have to change schools? Who takes my child's place at DDMS because I am sure they are not just leaving those slots empty? It is one thing to reassign us before we start into a new system but it is another thing to do it part way through. This seems cruel and unnecessary. I sincerely hope that they change the grandfathering rules to include 7th graders as it would be the right thing to do.

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Ngoc Hulbig about 1 month ago

We live in Preston Forest, all of which is within 2 miles of Davis Drive Middle School and has been a DDMS neighborhood for as long as anyone in our neighborhood can remember. We bought our house years ago with the full expectation that our children would go to DDMS and then Green Hope HS. We, of course, understand that student reassignments must be made to accommodate population growth and promote healthy schools. However, we do not think that reassigning Preston Forest--or the other neighborhoods within close proximity to DDMS--to East Cary Middle School makes sense, particularly in light of the four pillars of student assignment used by the school board and district staff for assignment decisions.

Proximity. Preston Forest is less than 2 miles away from DDMS. Students from our neighborhood ride their bikes to and from school. Bus rides are easier to plan due to the short distance. We were effectively forced to carpool in the afternoon last school year because it took over an hour after dismissal for our children to arrive home from school by bus from Weatherstone Elementary (2.5 miles away). I doubt that the bus situation would be improved by sending our children to ECMS, which is 6 miles away (NOT a reasonable distance). It doesn’t make sense to reassign students who can walk/bike, or that would require a short bus ride, to a school that would require significantly longer bus rides. This decreases operational efficiency of the transportation system, increases traffic and pollution, increases wear and tear on the buses, and makes for unhappy bus drivers, parents and children. Close proximity allows for increased parent participation in school. I am very active at our children’s elementary school, and it would be difficult for me to maintain that level of participation at a school on the other side of Cary. Close proximity also allows our growing and developing children more time for homework, afterschool activities, family time, and rest/sleep.

Stability. Preston Forest has long been assigned to DDMS. Our parents are invested in the school, current middle schoolers enjoy the school, and our young ones look forward to attending the same school as their siblings, friends and neighbors. Transitioning to the critical middle school years would be easier with peers. Uprooting and shuttling them to the other side of Cary to a school none of us have a connection to cannot be beneficial to students. Another point to consider regarding stability is that reassigning established neighborhoods discourages parents from participating and investing in their children’s schools.

Operational Efficiency. Aside from negative effects on operational efficiency of the transportation system, reassigning Preston Forest and other students in close proximity to DDMS to ECMS just to fill ECMS doesn’t make sense. Cary is growing daily, and the student population at ECMS will increase organically. There is no cap due to overcrowding at DDMS, so there is no reason to shift students to ECMS just to fill seats, especially from established neighborhoods in close proximity to the school.

Student Achievement. For the reasons above, reassigning Preston Forest to ECMS would negatively affect student achievement for our children. Being shuttled to school on the other side of town (that has a start time of 7:30am compared to 8:15am DDMS) costs our children more than 2 hours a day. Schedules already are jam packed with homework and activities, and adding a significant “commute” for our children makes it difficult to be both well-rounded and well-rested students. Student achievement also would be negatively affected by decreased parent participation due to distance/time, particularly working parents who might only have small windows of availability during their day. Children also will miss more school as dentist/doctor appointments and the like will take longer given that most of us tend to frequent medical providers close to our homes.

We understand that student assignment decisions often become a trade-off between pillars, but it seems that reassigning Preston Forest may provide some benefit to Operational Efficiency at ECMS, but at the cost of the Proximity, Stability, and Student Achievement pillars, as well as Operational Efficiency for the bus system and for transportation/traffic in Cary in general.

Please leave Preston Forest at DDMS!

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Sarah Atai about 1 month ago

We live in Preston Forest. As with many others on this thread, we are part of the small pocket of neighborhoods within close proximity (less than 2 miles) to Davis Drive MS that were re-zoned to East Cary Middle (about 6 miles away). We are extremely disappointed with this change, as DDMS is one of the reasons we chose to live where we do. As a household with two working parents, the distance to school makes a huge difference in our ability to be actively involved in the school community and our children's education. It makes no sense for our children to be bused across town when we have a middle school within walking distance. As other parents have so eloquently stated, there are many negative impacts to this, such as limited participation in activities, decreased operational efficiency, loss of stability, etc. Please leave Preston Forest at DDMS!

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Vivek Vaidya about 1 month ago

We live in Stonegate/Sherborne neighborhood which is .75 miles from Davis Drive MS. Our younger daughter (6th grader) is currently assigned to DDMS. But with the 2019-20 enrollment proposal she will be forced to complete 7th and 8th grades in East Cary MS which is 6 miles from our home.

None of the criteria listed in the enrollment decisions (Student Achievement, Stability, Proximity and Operational Efficiency) makes any sense in this case. We have been in this neighborhood for more than 10 years. Cannot think of a rational of having us tossed into a school which is other side of Cary (there goes Operational Efficiency). Our elder daughter completed her middle school from DDMS, and younger one was looking forward to go to DDMS. We are heavily invested in DDMS. But the new proposal disrupts the plans and will certainly add stress/instability to a new middle schooler. This will most definitely have negative impact on student performance.

I would like to appeal WCPSS to reconsider this proposal based of the same factors: "Student Achievement, Stability, Proximity and Operational Efficiency". Keep Stonegate/Sherborne (and surrounding neighborhoods) to DDMS.

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Shyamala Mahadevan about 1 month ago

We live in Arlington Ridge which is 1.5 miles away from DDMS. DDMS has been the base school for this established neighborhood forever! Families like ours have chosen these neighborhoods due to the proximity to DDMS. I have always been very involved with my child’s school since kindergarten and would love to remain a dedicated volunteer like several other parents have mentioned above. Reassigning families from neighborhoods like ours to schools which are in the other side of town will greatly impact parents’ involvement with the school system as well as the time available for children outside of school hours. Kindly reconsider this proposal to avoid these negative impacts for neighborhoods which are close to the existing base schools. While trying to address the under utilization issue in a particular school, it is not fair to disrupt families that are much closer to existing schools in established neighborhoods.

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Praveena Panineerkandy about 1 month ago

We are residents of Arlington Ridge, I agree with Shyamala. I hope the authorities look into this matter.

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ERICA JONES 27 days ago

We live in Arlington Ridge and are completely shocked that our base middle school might change to East Cary. Proximity and stability are SO important for any child. Please re-consider! I strongly disagree with moving the base to East Cary.

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Jack Threadgill about 1 month ago

My wife and I are homeowners in Arlington Ridge. While we don't have any children of our own, we support our neighbors on this issue. We recognize the value of nearby schools, continuity in the school experience, and the effect that schools have on our property values.

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praveen kalla 30 days ago

Agree with all the comments above. Please reconsider the proposal.

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Tricia Jones 30 days ago

We are residents of Muir Woods and we are STRONGLY OPPOSED to the proposed assignment of Davis Drive Middle School students to East Cary for all of the reasons posted in this forum.

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Marybeth Boyd about 1 month ago

My daughters currently go to DDMS. We live on the corner of Davis Drive and Waldo Rood, in the Sherborne/Stonegate neighborhood, about a 1/2 mile from the school. Proposing that we are rezoned to East Cary Middle is just ludicrous. Many of the kids in my neighborhood walk to and from school. Putting them on a bus to ride across town for a start time of 7:30 am at ECMS (currently 8:15 at DDMS) is not ok!

I would also like to know how/why the newer neighborhoods that are still being built are zoned for DDMS. How about some stability for the older/established neighborhoods? Come on Wake County, you can come up with a better plan than this!

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Amanda Douglass about 1 month ago

We live less than half a mile from DDMS in the Stonegate Sherbourne subdivision off Waldo Rood (not in Macarthur Park). 2 points I'd like to make:

  1. We are an easy walk to DDMS and my son has already talked about riding his bike to school starting next year. I want to see a corresponding proposal from WCPSS Transportation Authority that confirms they can support EFFICIENT busing schedules to handle taking kids who can and would be WALKING to school to then needing A BUS to have to get to ECMS. I could go on about the transition to middle school as well as the different start times at DDMS and ECMS which people have commented on above. You can't honestly tell me that the WCPSS Transportation Authority who already has issues this year with busing and schedules is going to be able to handle the proposed changes of busing kids all over the area just to accommodate these new lines (we don't use the bus this year because it's a 40+ minute route from our pickup to our elementary school and we can drive there in 8 minutes....I can't imagine what a bus route would look like from here to ECMS). Please look closer at neighborhoods that are an EASY walk.....I know you have to draw the lines somewhere but this is ludicrous. We are a small subdivision off Waldo Rood and Davis Drive. The impact of this line would cause a transportation nightmare for us with 2 kids in school on opposite sides of town (one elementary and one middle). All of a sudden you've created a driving hardship to get my kids to 2 different sides of town at drop off and pickup AND you've also added demand on an already stretched busing system! I've read through and reviewed the maps and all 82 pages of the proposal and there is NO MENTION of how WCPSS Transportation Authority will be involved in handling this new volume. Maybe that needs to be a part of the next proposal?

  2. After reviewing the map, I can see that a big chunk of Mills Park MS is being now rezoned to Davis Dr. This is a slap in the face for those of us in established neighborhoods and for us personally. We have been in our home for 10 years in walking distance to to DDMS and now you're rezoning newly built neighborhoods even farther west to give them DDMS zoning??? I don't see the logic. And let's me honest, we all do it. When buying a home we look at school districts and proximity and that is a big part of the decision of buying a home for MOST people. Now all of a sudden we're 10 years in, have worked our tails off to establish a sense of community and now it's taken away. Even Town of Cary Rec sports has people sign up by regions to foster a sense of community, lessen the hardship of transportation, amongst other things. We are on the farthest edge of the new proposed lines for ECMS. Couple that with our ability to walk and the arbitrary adding of the block from Mills Park MS over to DDMS is mind boggling.

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Kelly Rutan about 1 month ago

Clap clap clap Yes, all of this. There are so many valid arguments perfectly laid out by Amanda as to why these neighborhoods should remain zoned for Davis Drive Middle School.

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Kara Rozen 28 days ago

Totally agree. NONE of the four pillars of student assignment seem to apply to this draft, which makes me wonder what circumstances or financial incentives compelled this proposal? Until the rationale behind this draft is explained fully and clearly, I think we should be looking very closely for conflicts of interest.

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Shyamala Mahadevan about 1 month ago

My exact thoughts and feelings Amanda. I don't understand why neighborhoods within a 2 mile radius of Davis are being reassigned whereas neighborhoods from the other side of town whose base is Mills Park are being added to Davis!

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Ravisha Weerasinghe about 1 month ago

I agree with these points. The new assignment maps show that newer/more expensive homes are given preferential treatment for school assignments. This is not just for DDMS but also for Green hope high School.

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Mr SA 23 days ago

It is very "suspicious" how some of these assignments are made and why some neighborhoods get treated with kid gloves and some get targeted repeatedly.

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Keila Valentin about 1 month ago

These are excellent points, which leads me to believe that reassigning those of us within 2 miles of DDMS is more about increasing the appeal of the new homes (meaning money in someone's pocket) rather than about the "reasons" cited.

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praveen kalla 30 days ago

Agree with all the comments above.

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Jennifer Charney about 1 month ago

I am shocked that the school board is considering moving us from Davis Drive Middle to E Cary. We live 1.1 miles from Davis Drive versus 6 miles from E Cary. I have lived in Arlington Ridge for almost 16 years and we have been assigned to Davis Drive Middle the entire time. It looks like the new developments and ones currently under construction will be assigned to Davis Drive forcing us longtime residents out. My son will attend Davis Drive for 6th grade and then be forced to start over at a new school in 7th grade. This will cause undue stress during an already challenging time in our children's development. Please reconsider moving us to E Cary.

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Amanda Douglass about 1 month ago

Further to my above response and my concerns about the impact on WCPSS Transportation and Busing, I've just been on the WCPSS Transportation Authority page and I've attached a screenshot below about busing. "Students living within their school's walk zone (1.5miles) are not allow to ride the bus...." Why not get a map and a protractor, draw a 1.5 mile circle around DDMS, and all those that fall within the 1.5 mile walking zone are included in the DDMS zone and then you can adjust the zoning lines outside of that. That would be a logical start and in effect, less of a strain on the busing system according to WCPSS's OWN GUIDELINES FOR WALKERS!

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Marybeth Boyd about 1 month ago

Amanda Douglass that is a fantastic idea!!!

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Brandon Bryce 29 days ago

I agree 100 percent. Thank you Amanda and Marybeth for your contributions on this forum for Sherborne. We have a rising 6th grader next year and it would be wonderful for him to join the other DDMS walkers (or riders) from our neighborhood.

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erica kremer about 1 month ago

The previous responses have very adequately expressed the many reasons this rezoning is a mistake. I am posting for the important reason that you need to know the number of people who are against this change.

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Aimee Bryce about 1 month ago

We live in the Stonegate/Sherborne neighborhood right off of Waldo Rood Blvd. We are 0.6 mile from Davis Drive middle school. We have lived in our home for 18 years to ensure our children attend Davis Drive middle. Our daughter is an 7th grader and our son will be in 6th next year. We are very much involved in the school- I was a Team Parent in 6th and now a 7th grade mom for this current year. I am in the school a few times a week. Our daughter participates in a few clubs after school. Our son hopes to do the same.

We are extremely invested in Davis Drive middle. I could not be involved with a school like East Cary which is no where near our home.

My daughter also walks home from school and could not do that at East Cary. She also could not participate in clubs or sports since she would be a very long bus ride away from home.

Also, please take into consideration that we have as I’m sure other families after school obligations as in speech therapy. A school further away with busing would compromise her participation to get to her clubs, sports, speech therapy and other activities that come right after the school day. Please take into account the traveling time and distance involved.

Please re-consider taking established neighborhoods and re-zoning us away from Davis Drive Middle.

Please contact me for any questions you have.

Thank you, Aimee Bryce

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Sherborne Resident 29 days ago

I agree with Aimee. This rezoning proposal must not pass. In a worst case scenario if it does pass, get ready to vote them out!!

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Aimee Bryce about 1 month ago

Also, why isn’t Davis Drive middle re-capped as it was a few years ago? I am on-site in the school a few times a week and I know the classroom numbers and how many per grade.

If the school is re-capped then the families who have lived here for a long time (we have lived in our house 18 years) can continue to go to our school.

Thank you.

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Shelley Chen about 1 month ago

We have the same situation.No reason to choose a school 6 miles away and give up a much better and only half mile away school. The value of real property will shrink dramatically. Need an organization and have own voice.

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Nicole Brooks about 1 month ago

I agree with all the above comments. Like many of you, I live 1.2 miles from DDMS and have been in my house for 12 years now. Kenilworth is a small but well-established neighborhood on the corner of Waldo Rood and Cary Parkway. It makes absolutely no sense to move children who live within walking/biking distance to a school across town. Please take a minute to look at that map and how many people living right next to the school are being sent away. Please reconsider the importance of proximity and community. For my family, it means a 5 minute drive to a school that starts at 8:15 vs a 15-20 minute drive to a school that starts at 7:30. In other words, leaving the house at approximately 8am vs 7am. Not to mention my child in elementary school who will have to get up that early when his school doesn't start until 9:15. This represents a significant hardship for my family and an hour less sleep for my children. Not to mention the difficultly with parent involvement and after school activities. I feel very strongly that the most important factor in school assignment is proximity above all else. Taking away established neighborhoods from DDMS is very bad for the community and very bad for my family. I love the above idea about including everyone within 1.5 miles of the school since that's considered "walking distance"! Great idea Amanda! Maybe even 2 miles.

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Matt Dees admin at September 18, 2018 at 1:39pm EDT

Nicole, the meeting will be streamed live on our YouTube channel starting at 3:30 p.m. Here is the link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuYP7rCU5D4 We will also have more information at wcpss.net/enrollmentproposal at around that time.

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Jennifer Jackson about 1 month ago

I too am shocked at this proposal. My front door is 200 feet from the crossing guard at Waldo Rood and Davis and it's being proposed that my children attend a school over 6 miles away! It is not acceptable to move families that live in these established neighborhoods away from their community school while moving others in. At a minimum, the attendance base for a school should include those kids that can walk/bike to that school. For every dollar spent on transportation, there's one less dollar to spend in the classroom. Please reflect these considerations in the next draft of your proposal.

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Ani Worlikar about 1 month ago

I agree with all the posters above. We live in the Sherborne neighborhood, about 0.5 miles away from DDMS. My son walked, biked to DDMS. I can say that that was a big part in his development - being able to walk /bike to school independently. Although lines have to be drawn somewhere, they dont have to be drawn right next to a school! This move doesnt make sense from any perspective.

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Jeff Chapman about 1 month ago

Very much in agreement with the statements made above. For us off of Huntsmoor we are also walking distance or even a short bike ride from DDMS. DDMS is our community school and ECMS is not. This has terrible negative implications, especially tied to what George Deeb mentioned above. It's a sub-par re-assignment and doesn't do anything to help well established residents that have been assigned to DDMS for years to better the educational experience for our middle schoolers. We are in the same boat as others with a rising 6th grader at DDMS that will be transitioning from Weatherstone to DDMS, moved from DDMS to ECMS and then shortly having to transition to GHHS. Major disruption to a middle schooler. I didn't grow up in NC, but I can tell you that I had the pleasure of going K-12 in the same district/school as everyone else in our community and neighborhoods. The sense of community was so much stronger at the school and the overall experience was far superior to what WCPSS offers with all of these shifty moves. Please consider the impact on the kids...especially the ones that will have JUST fully transitioned to DDMS.

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Kimberly Hall about 1 month ago

We moved to Wake County from Virginia in 2008 so I could continue my career as an educator with Wake County Public Schools. After previously living and teaching in a community based school, we were adamant about buying in an established neighborhood with established schools. Now both as a former teacher and parent, my husband and I strongly believe in public education and the benefits of living, working and playing together. While we know our area is growing and rezoning needs to happen, moving Preston Forest and its neighboring communities which are within walking distance to DDMS to ECMS makes no sense and will only negatively impact our children, family and community. Preston Forest has always attended Davis Drive Middle School. The camaraderie our young children have with the middle school children will be lost, parent participation in middle school where it is most needed will decline, sleep habits altered and transportation headaches will rise.

Another concern I have is that more and more families are moving to the downtown Cary area and projected projects like Fenton (outlined in yellow in the attached photo) alone will add 800 plus multifamily homes to the area. What will happen then? Where will those children go to school? It would make sense at that point to move the families like us that are far way from ECMS back to DDMS to accommodate all of the new growth that area is expecting. Let’s skip the headache and come up with a better plan. It is unfortunate that established neighborhoods that have been zoned to a certain school for its entire lifetime are subjected to accommodate brand new neighborhoods that are not in close proximity. Please reconsider and keep Preston Forest and its surrounding neighborhoods at DDMS. Thank you.

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Marek Kasprisin about 1 month ago

This proposal doesn't make sense and I would like the WCPSS board members to explain to us parents how will this change provide an optimal opportunity for academic success for all students. How will this optimize

a) Student Achievement b) Stability c) Proximity d) Operational Efficiency

I agree with all the previous posters, this will have a terrible impact on our children and the entire community.

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Zhenrong Liu about 1 month ago

I live in Providence Commons and was shocked and very upset to know that my daughter’s base school has been proposed to change from DDMS to ECMS, which is 1.5 mile versus 6 miles away from my home. I don't know how this decision was made and based on what criteria. It just doesn't make any sense! This decision will not only negatively impacts all our neighbors life, it also wastes resources like transportation - School buses have to go further to pick up /drop off kids versus biking to school. I sincerely ask school board to reconsider this reassignment!

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Sarah Deeb about 1 month ago

I am a resident of Preston Forest, and very disappointed with the proposed change to ECMS. My daughter just graduated from DDMS, and my middle son will be in 7th grade next year. My youngest is supposed to start 6th grade there next year. If the changes stand I would either have 2 kids at 2 different middle schools, or have to uproot my 6th grade after 1 year. No transportation will be provided for grandfathered students as well - so I’d be spending a large portion of my day getting them to and from school. Neither of these options are good for my kids, or anyone else’s! Far from “Best Practice” that Wake County school strive for. We chose our home because it meant our kids would attend our neighborhood school ( DD is less than 2 miles away). We love our school- we have made connections with other parents, Teachers, and administrators. Our children have made great friends. They have thrived in the many programs offered at DDMS, such as band, athletics, and student clubs. It doesn’t make any sense to me that an established neighborhood in such close proximity to our local school should be moved. I am deeply concerned about the earlier start time, as well as bus time - will make participation in after school activities nearly impossible. Our kids deserve better!

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Jennifer Schiller about 1 month ago

I live in Preston Forest and am very opposed to changing our middle school to East Cary Middle School from Davis Drive Middle. It simply does not make sense -- for kids/parents or for Wake County, as other neighborhood parents have previously commented. The move of Preston Forest to ECMS knocks down all four pillars that you use to guide student assignment.

Proximity: there are two other closer middle schools (most logical is Davis Drive). It doesn't make sense to put kids on a 6 mile, hour long bus ride to get to/from school when there is an option for them to attend a school that is literally right around the corner, and is one they can alternatively walk or ride bikes to.

Stability: Sending kids to a school well outside of their home community is distressing and is the exact opposite of stability. In particular, for established neighborhoods who have been aligned to a school for decades there is an increased sense of loss, stress, and anxiety, when families are moved outside their familiar community, where trusted relationships and support systems have been formed.

Operational efficiency: I'm really struggling to understand who this move benefits operationally. I can assure you that the commute you would be creating for my family is not efficient. I can't imagine it is efficient for the Wake County bussing system. The move creates inefficiencies for all involved.

Student Achievement: Another pillar fail. This move to ECMS actually creates hurdles to student achievement rather than promoting it, as so many others have very well noted on this discussion thread. Additionally, as a family with two working parents, this move will eliminate any hope of us being able to volunteer or assist at school activities. Parental involvement has long been connected as a key to student success. This is very concerning for me to think that my children will be enrolled in a school where I cannot be involved and where only a handful of community members might be familiar to them.

Please leave Preston Forest aligned to Davis Drive Middle School!

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Ramapriya Raju about 1 month ago

We live in Carpenter village, our son will be attending Davis Drive Middle this upcoming year and should’ve continued to attend DDMS for the rest of his middle school. But, in light of the new draft, he may be assigned to Alston Ridge Middle instead. ARM is a year round school, which is not our preference at all. However, alternatively, he would need to attend West Cary Middle for a traditional school. This is unacceptable due to numerous reasons, including: West Cary’s very poor rating and feedback, the distance from our home, which would would mean an hour and a half minimum travel for a middle schooler, each way, in comparison to the 6-8 min to DDMS, and to top it all, we bought a home in the neighborhood to allow our son to specifically attend Davis Drive Middle School. I am requesting the school board to reconsider this draft and allow for middle schoolers to finish middle school in David Drive from Carpenter village neighborhood.

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Olga Hogrefe about 1 month ago

When we were looking for houses in Cary in September 2012 we specifically chose one in Providence Commons that was tentatively assigned to Davis Drive Elementary. Shortly after the closing – bang – the address was reassigned. But we made our peace with this thinking that at least our son will go to Davis Drive Middle. And now six years later the same story– we are very likely to be reassigned to East Cary Middle. Please do not do this. Our house is less than a mile from Davis Drive Middle. Our son is in the 5th grade and he was really looking forward to finally be able walk or ride his bike to school next year instead of sitting in a school bus every morning. Also I do not see a reason for this reassigning except that East Cary will switch to a traditional calendar and you need to fill it. Davis Drive Middle was not capped last year and it will not be capped this year. Please leave our kids with their current school assignment.

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Micha Atai about 1 month ago

I'm writing to express my concern and profound displeasure with the draft proposal of Wake County school districting for the coming year. As a resident and home owner in the Preston Forest neighborhood (1.8 miles from Davis Drive MS) for the last seven years and father of two soon to be middle school children I am extremely concerned about what this redistricting will mean for my children, our family and our quality of life.

Our family and many more like us have moved to this area and this neighborhood in no small part due to the schools that our children will have access to. I strongly oppose any proposal which would ship my children nearly six miles away to a less rated Middle School, when a well rated school is practically across the street (less than 2 miles away).

I'm sure you will hear from many more families in the coming days who will echo my sentiments. I urge you to reconsider the redistricting that will displace families like ours from Davis Drive MS and hinder the quality of our lives and education of our children.

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Olga Hogrefe about 1 month ago

I was wondering if anybody on the Board has done a traffic impact analysis. You will be adding quite a bit of traffic in the morning and afternoon hours between our neighborhoods and East Cary since many parents will prefer to drive their kids to and/or from school instead of them sitting on a bus, or they will have no other choice but drive their kids who will choose to participate in afterschool activities. Now look: the town of Cary is spending a lot of money and effort to reduce traffic congestion by expanding the High House – Cary Parkway intersection, only to see that their efforts were for nothing because of added traffic due to the East Cary Middle commutes. I am not even focusing on the amount of extra air pollution from all that unnecessary traffic.

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Tom Wang about 1 month ago

Walking distance (0.6 miles) versus 6 miles away from our house. The different is 10 times! The numbers won't lie and this proposal must be cancelled.

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Kelly Rutan about 1 month ago

We live in the Arlington Ridge neighborhood (our house is 1.4 miles from DDMS) and are extremely upset with this proposed change to East Cary. All of the arguments stated above are spot on and I am really struggling to see how this change makes any sense for the families in these established neighborhoods that are within WALKING distance to DDMS. When we bought our house, one of the top deciding factors was that it was zoned for DDMS and Green Hope High. We have made sacrifices to be able to live in a more expensive neighborhood, with a more expensive home mortgage, so that our kids can attend these great neighborhood schools, schools that have been zoned for these neighborhoods for DECADES. I am shocked to now find that despite all of this, my children are now being rezoned to East Cary, the middle school that we moved away from. We are also concerned about what this redistricting is going to do to our housing value. Again, it makes absolutely no sense that brand new developments, like Mills Park, which are even farther away are now being sent to DDMS while the older neighborhoods that have an established community around these schools are being sent to the other side of Cary.

I am also struggling with the fact that East Cary is over 5.5 miles away from my house, has an early start time of 7:30 am (versus the 8:15 am DDMS start time), and is going to result in a 45 minute plus bus ride for my children when they start middle school. This is going to be extremely disruptive during the years when my children will be attending different schools - one in middle and one in elementary. For years, we have operated under the idea that they will just ride their bikes to school. On the weekends, we even bike this route with them so they will be familiar. The ease with which this method of transportation fits into our busy working family cannot be stressed enough.

I’m grasping at straws trying to understand the logic behind moving these neighborhoods clear across town. It makes no sense and creates such a hardship for hundreds of families. My only hope is that those responsible for creating these plans will listen to this feedback and realize that there are so many better options for what they are trying to achieve.

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Shyamala Mahadevan about 1 month ago

You are 100% correct Kelly; We live in Arlington Ridge too. This is extremely frustrating and upsetting. I sincerely hope that they will hear all of us and revise this proposal and let our neighborhoods stay with Davis Drive Middle

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david sc about 1 month ago

When Dr. Chisnall was principal of East Cary, it was popular and in demand. It's been declining since he left. How does a STEM school fail in Cary? The board needs to look at fixing the leadership at the school.

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Shelley Shalhoub about 1 month ago

We live in the established Providence Commons neighborhood that is 1.5 miles from DDMS. We purchased our house this year, specifically so that our kids could attend this school. To be reassigned to ECM which is 6 miles away makes no sense. Last year we toured DDMS, to get our minds around the idea that our son would soon be going to middle school! All the kids in our neighborhood and surrounding areas attend this school, as many from his current elementary so we felt good about that, as well as the location. He and his friends will be able to ride their bikes to school. Both our kids like many others are involved in a lot of activities after school and the short commute to and from DDMS would allow them to continue to participate. I worry about the long commute to ECM-- the bus at our current elementary school which is very close sometimes had them home close to 5pm. I can only imagine how late they would be coming home from a school 6 miles away.

Another thing I don't understand-- DDMS is not capped, nor will it be. I have heard they are looking to fil ECM- why specifically our kids? Our neighborhoods? Again, it's location is completely on the other side of Cary!

We vehemently oppose this proposal. Please let us all stay at DDMS.

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Roma Kirtikar about 1 month ago

I live in Preston Forest, and I was very disappointed to see the reaassignments. My daughter went to Davis Drive Middle and my son is a rising 7th Grader, although he will be Grandfathered in, he was upset that he won't get to ride the bus and commuting to a school more than 6 miles away will limit the afterschool clubs he would take. He was looking forward to having his little cousin join the same middle school he is in, and now with this reassignment will have not only upset parents but very disappoionted kids. I am afraid moving established neighborhoods to a totally new school zone will continue to root a fear in our kids about if they will go to the same school their siblings went to! The whole reassignmet is impacting our kids negatively! We propose the newer neighborhoods be assigned to the upcoming new schools or be assigned to existing schools as they will be starting fresh anyways! The new communities proudly advertise to lure new home buyers by saying their base school is DDMS! I'm afraid something similar will happen when the new town-homes community near Green Hope High School will come up! My High Schooler is already upset, she says they are taking away our trees and our schools!!!

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Julie Hudspeth about 1 month ago

I live in Providence Commons, near the Cary Parkway/Waldo Rood intersection. We just moved here last year, and bought here specifically so our 3 kids could attend DDMS. It is within 1.5 miles from our house, compared to 6 miles to ECMS. To quote and agree with Shelley above "I worry about the long commute to ECM-- the bus at our current elementary school which is very close sometimes had them home close to 5pm. I can only imagine how late they would be coming home from a school 6 miles away." The established neighborhoods should be given priority to the school assignments, based on proximity, strong communities, and continuity for our kids. I strongly oppose the proposed reassignment from DDMS to ECMS.

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Shelley Shalhoub about 1 month ago

Hey Julie-- trying to organize our PC neighborhood-- email me shelleyahern@hotmail.com.

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Mark Fortuniewicz about 1 month ago

Hello - I am writing to echo many of the comments already made regarding Preston Forest being re-assigned from Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle School. Proximity and reputation lead my areas of concern. As noted, we are 1.6 miles from DDMS, but over 6 miles from ECMS. When we moved to Cary four years ago, we used the school ratings and reputation as selection criteria for our neighborhood and home. We were comfortable with paying a premium for a home based on the quality of schools that would be assigned to our neighborhood. I completely understand the concept of re-districting/re-assignment based on population growth but question the removal of Preston Forest from DDMS while Preston Village (Further from DDMS) has been included in the DDMS assignment. To reach DDMS from Preston Village, the buses would literally pass THROUGH Preston Forest in both the morning and afternoon.

I oppose Draft 1 of the proposal and sincerely hope that Draft 2 will rectify this concern, both geographically and logically.

Thank you for your time and consideration of my and many other requests.

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Cary Resident about 1 month ago

Buses from Preston Village do not pass through Preston Forest - PV is on the other side of Davis Drive. Perhaps you are thinking of Prestonwood?

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Cary Resident about 1 month ago

I get what you are saying Mark and agree your reassignment makes no sense and posted regarding it even though it does not affect me.

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Mark Fortuniewicz about 1 month ago

Many buses pass through our neighborhood on a regular basis. My questions were more along the lines of why are children from Preston Village aligned with DDMS, while we in Preston Forest are much closer to the school than they are? Why is Preston Forest being "skipped over" for alignment to DDMS? On the way to DDMS from Preston Village (through Prestonwood), the buses could travel through Preston Forest to get to Waldo Rood and then Davis Drive.

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Keith Zantow about 1 month ago

Like many others, we are less than a mile and a half from Davis Drive Middle and specifically chose to move to this location last year because of the schools. This year, we have 3 students at DDMS - one in each grade. It is certainly not fair that the younger children would not be able to finish at the school and will be stuck riding the bus across town for no reason! This seems hugely inefficient from a transportation standpoint alone, notwithstanding logic, and certainly my children would suffer from the significantly increased transportation times.

I also ask this be revisited so people who live in proximity of DDMS retain zoning there!

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Jennifer Jackson about 1 month ago

I'd also like to point out that a good number of us on this forum live close enough to DDMS to deal with the congestion it brings to our neighborhood during dropoff/release times. Just turning out of my street (Chestone Court) can require a wait 5 times longer during these times . It really feels unfair to expect us to deal with the added traffic from schools in our neighborhood but tell us we're not allowed to send our kids to that same school.

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Eliza Minerly about 1 month ago

I have two boys who are currently in Laurel Park ES and are expecting to go to Salem MS next year. This suites us fine as we prefer the year-round calendar option, but I very strongly agree that it makes no sense for those in my neighborhood off Waldo Rood Blvd between Cary Parkway and Davis Dr to move from their base school of Davis Drive Middle school to East Cary Middle school. It makes no sense! It's much further away which means kids will have to be on a bus for a longer amount of time. That means kids and parents will lose family time after school and cut an hour off their sleep time in the morning making it harder for the kids to learn in school and for parents to be productive in their jobs. Traffic also will be ridiculous. Most people in my subdivision (MacArthur Park) can just walk or bike to Davis Drive schools so not as many will need the bus. Not to mention, there is a greenway being completed this year through the MacArthur Park subdivision that will connect all the MacArthur Park subdivisions directly to Davis Drive Schools across Davis Dr making it easy for kdis to bike or walk to school. Davis Drive schools have served this community very well. Most people moved here knowing their kids will be attending the Davis Drive school system. Many more people moving into the area will be expecting to go there as it is one of Cary's top performing schools and very close to areas such as MacArthur Park and other communities within 1-2 miles away. Why take that away from the closest communities to the Davis Drive schools? Surely there is a much better option or collection of communities to put in ECMS? Those that are closer to that school for instance.

We parents are most concerned about the proximity to the school and stability for our kids. I am speaking on my own behalf here, but from what I have been discussing with friends and neighbors, they fear how this move will affect their kids' in school and their property values. Many of them are already attending elementary or middle schools or even high school and their kids will have to leave behind their friends and their teachers to go to a school they don't know anyone in. Some of these students are in programs due to to falling behind in grades or a disability (behavioral or otherwise). Making them change will be extremely traumatic to them and will end up hurting their progress they have already made with their current school. Most of us parents work. Having our kids go to school near our homes is much more convenient to us. There's a handful of those that may work near by the potential base schools, but that's only a very small amount. To please the majority of parents, I strongly believe the best option and most stable option is to keep families with kids going to the schools closest to their home. Might I suggest families/communities that are further than 2 miles away from Davis Drive schools should go to schools closer to them...within a 2 mile radius.

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Anonymous Poster about 1 month ago

Based on the majority of these comments, it is apparent that Davis Drive families are strongly against moving to another school.

WCPSS-Would it be possible to convert DD elem and DD middle to year-round to accommodate more students and reduce the number of reassignments?

If yes, would year-round conversion be a viable alternative at more schools in high-growth Western Wake? Although some families are anti-year-round, it would be a more fiscally responsible compromise than new school construction, fewer families would need to be reassigned, and the taxpayers would be happier.

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Re Be 28 days ago

Yes!!! Convert DD to year-round!!! That makes sense. It's a good school and close to many folk, but it's just too small for the population. By increasing the capacity by 30%+ we solve a ton of issues!

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Nicole Brooks about 1 month ago

I personally don't care what the calendar is like, as long as the school is in close proximity to my house. The whole point of year round schools is to accommodate more students within the same school, so I like that idea. Or can you just build additions to existing schools to make them bigger if space allows?

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Christy Gingerich 27 days ago

Converting DD to year-round is a practical suggestion. The 2 mile radius suggestion also makes a lot of sense. Proximity to schools is paramount to parents. People buy homes and organize their lives based on proximity to schools.

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ARATI KIRTIKAR about 1 month ago

I live in Preston Forest and am strongly opposed to changing our neighborhood from DDMS to ECMS. We are heavily invested in our schools and volunteer there through a number of programs regularly. ECMS does not offer orchestra and my child has been looking forward to it ever since her older sister took it as her elective.

This proposal is wrong on many fronts. Taking kids out of high achieving schools to fill under enrolled ones will not fix the problem, it will just leave a whole generation (10 years) of kids that floundered in middle school due to lack of continuity, parental involvement and teacher commitment. Add to that absolute chaos with transporting kids 6 miles away, lost time, lost sense of community.. And People already in ECMS don't want to move to Lufkin. I fail to understand who is happy with this plan where we are all being shuffled around needlessly?

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Kevin Hooper about 1 month ago

We have been residents of the Huntsmoor Development for 13 years. The Davis Drive Schools were the focal point of us moving into the neighborhood as well as most of our neighbors who have children or intend to have children. To take away that DD as a base school would further alienate our neighborhood and the children & families that live so close to the schools. I hope the School Board votes against this change.

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Jason Schiller about 1 month ago

I live in Preston Forest and believe the move from David Drive to East Cary goes against all four pillars used to guide student assignment.

Proximity: We are in very close proximity to David Drive and busing the students 6 miles is not only inefficient, but takes away valuable time for after school activities that enrich their development and assist them academically.

Stability: Stability is very important at this age and sending kids to a school well outside of their home community will significantly increase stress and anxiety, thereby taking focus away on the important aspects of development.

Operational efficiency: I am uncertain how sending students to a school that is 3+ times further away from their house creates efficiencies.

Student Achievement: This move to actually creates hurdles to student achievement rather than promoting it. As a parent in a household with 2 working parents, this adds significant stress to the system and will reduce the amount of parental involvement, which is one of the most important aspects of student development.

For these reasons above, I respectfully ask that we leave Preston Forest aligned to Davis Drive Middle School, a school 1 mile away with heavy parent involvement. Thank You!

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Diana Ahmadyar about 1 month ago

I live in the Huntsmoor neighborhood and agree with what everyone has already said. One of the reasons I bought this house is because of the schools. As a single parent the stress in the morning to get both kids to school and myself to work is going to be significantly impacted by having to drive all the way across town or wake my kids up at 6am to catch a bus. I really hope the school board considers the huge financial (increase in gas costs and lost productivity as well as longer term decrease in property values) and emotional stress on both the parents and kids. Are their alternative solutions to the overcrowding we can discuss? Adding additional teachers/classrooms?

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Fumiko Kondo about 1 month ago

I also agree with what everyone has mentioned above. We live in Kenilworth in the corner of Waldo Rood and Cary Parkway, which is 1.2 mils from DDMS. We purchased our house this year, of course one of the reason is the great school district. I have never thought about my kids base school being proposed to change to ECMS (6.5 mils away) because we are walking/biking distance from DDMS. I kindly ask school board to listen to our voice and reconsider this proposal!

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Rob Eaton about 1 month ago

Like many others who have already provided a response we live within walking distance to DDMS, We live in an established neighborhood which has been assigned to DDMS since the neighborhood was created. We intentionally purchased our house in this school district so our children could go to a good school not get shipped out to a distant school on the other side of Cary. This proposal causes a number of issues for the children and parents alike which have already been stated in the other posts. New developments and ones currently under construction will be assigned to Davis Drive forcing us out which makes no logical sense. Please don't do this to our children. We vehemently oppose this proposal!

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Wesley Phelps about 1 month ago

I also live in the Kenilworth neighborhood and my family is within walking distance to Davis Drive Middle. Any family that lives within walking distance or near walking distance to a school should not be forced to drive across town to a different school. The difference in travel time and the difference between when our children would have to wake up in the morning is substantial. Plus, in 2018 the idea should be to have less cars on the road to not only help alleviate increasing traffic issues, but also negative impacts on the environment. I understand why the proposal makes sense in regards to over crowding issues, but the negatives far out weigh that one positive. It just doesn't make sense make one problem slightly better while creating many more problems for many families.

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Cary Resident about 1 month ago

I do not live in the affected area nor do I have kids who will going into MS, but this proposal makes no sense. Every year WCPSS is begging and pleading for bus drivers as there aren't enough to fill the routes, and now you want to take walkers and send them across town on a 30 minute bus ride? AND to a school that starts nearly an hour earlier? That makes no sense and makes me question if the people on the board are capable of making sound decisions. Also I know people who have applied to ECMS and been waitlisted or rejected. There is a disconnect here about your claim that the school is under capacity and what you are really doing to fill it with people who actually want to go there. Leave it YR, let the people from Adams go there, get a better admin in place, clean up what you have and don't expect the DDMS people to come in and save the day.

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Nathan Froese about 1 month ago

How is it in the best interest of my child that instead of walking 1/2 mile to their neighborhood school, together with their neighborhood friends - they will be bused or driven 6 miles? I need to see a good answer to this question. And - if the above can be answered logically, how is in my child's best interest to switch schools halfway through their middle school years? Why would they not be grandfathered into their existing school? This disruption and uncertainty in the middle of these critical formative years is necessary? I view this as equally illogical. You are asking many families to experience the above. Why? PLEASE EXPLAIN.

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Joe Boyd about 1 month ago

I am a homeowner in the Sherborne/Stonegate neighborhood and I am extremely disappointed that there is a proposal to re-assign our middle school base from DDMS to ECMS. Sherborne/Stonegate, as well as many of the other neighborhoods facing this re-assignment, are well established neighborhoods that have been assigned to DDMS for many years. Homeowners such as myself, specifically sought out this area for not only the terrific neighborhoods and neighbors, but also for the high performing schools that would be available to us. Does it make sense to re-assign those that have invested years into these neighborhoods, and the schools to a school where there are no relationships, and no ties into the local neighborhoods surrounding the school? I know my answer is absolutely not, and based on all the comments before mine I believe that is the answer of many, many others.

My understanding is that there are a number of new communities, where the homes are still in the process of being built, would be assigned to DDMS. Why is that? Why are established neighborhoods being uprooted from DDMS and new homeowners being assigned to DDMS? Why aren’t these new communities being assigned to schools that are under enrolled? It makes me wonder about the relationship between the school board and new home builders. We all know that schools have an impact on home values, great schools generally increase the value and not so great schools decrease from the value. Would the fact that assignment to ECMS for these new homes decrease their initial sales price? Maybe. Would the fact that assignment to DDMS for these new homes increase their initial sales price? I would certainly think so.

I appeal to Mr. Bill Fletcher, our District 9 representative, to seriously reconsider this proposal. Mr. Fletcher, I direct you to your website, www.billfletcher4schoolboard.com under “Bill Fletcher’s Endorsements”. Here, there is an endorsement stating “Supported by Area REALTORS…because there should be a high performing school close to every home in Wake County!” If our children are re-assigned to ECMS, then our children will not be attending a school that is close to our homes nor will they be attending a school that is considered as high performing. I suppose, ultimately if our children are re-assigned to ECMS there will be a high performing school close to our home, but our children just won’t be attending it.

Mr. Fletcher I again appeal to you and the school board to seriously re-consider this proposal as it is unfair to us as homeowners in these impacted neighborhoods, and most importantly unfair to our children.

Joe Boyd

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Karen Peck about 1 month ago

I am strongly opposed to the proposed assignment of Davis Drive students to East Cary for all of the reasons posted in this forum.

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Nicole Brooks about 1 month ago

For me, it's not just that the proximity that is a problem (though it is a problem, as others have already stated). But the lack of proximity coupled with the significantly earlier start time will create a real hardship for my family. When my older child starts middle school my younger child will still have 2 more years in elementary, which starts at 9:15. So to go to DDMS, my family would leave the house at 8am (4 min drive per google maps) for middle school drop off by 8:15, then elementary drop off 30-40 min later. This is do-able for us. If we have to start school 45 min earlier, plus add at least 15-20 min drive time, my family will have to leave around 7am for middle school drop off. Even earlier if she rides the bus. I tell my children all the time how important sleep is for their growing bodies and developing brains. This proposed change will result in both of my children losing at least an hour of sleep every night, plus a significant waste of time (and fuel) either riding the bus (which we would not need for DDMS) or carpooling all over town for my spouse. I hate the idea of them losing so much valuable sleep just to be carted across town when there is a much more convenient school 1 mile from my house. Please consider keeping Kenilworth and its surrounding neighborhoods at our neighborhood schools! It doesn't matter why everyone bought their house, this change is just illogical, wasteful of resources, and physically bad for my family.

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Craig Ellis about 1 month ago

We purchased our home in the Sherborne neighborhood to raise a family and to be a part of the Davis Drive Middle School district. This was a major reason for starting our family in this community. We are less than 1mile from Davis Drive Middle School and plan to allow our kids to walk/bike to school to promote an active lifestyle, reduce the dependence on busing, and stay better connected with our immediate community. I strongly oppose this change. Established neighborhoods within walking distance should not be forced reassignment versus allowing new communities to be built a further distance from the school and to take the priority into this district.

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David Henderson about 1 month ago

We live in Sherborne/Stonegate-- our home is 3/4 of a mile from DDMS. We can walk to school in 15 minutes. The proposal sends us to EAST Cary MS, which would entail a 45+ minute bus ride instead of a 15 walk? That makes no sense at all.

If you want to increase the enrollment at East Cary Middles School, maybe you need to address the administration problems there. Look at the enrollment numbers-- they began to fall shortly after the new principle was appointed. It appears that people began choosing alternatives to ECMS because of the administration problems and not because they didn't want year-round.

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Rene Dittrich about 1 month ago

We live in Preston Forest for many years and - as many others pointed out - one of the main reasons we bought here is the fact that the assigned base schools are both excellent and in close proximity. We pride ourselves that we live in a real neighborhood where families know each other and kids bike and walk to school together. I fully appreciate that assigning and reassigning neighborhoods to schools is a balancing act with conflicting interests, however there has to be a better solution than this.

The proposed change will destabilize families, is not efficient, will negatively impact student achievement and trading a school 1 mile away for a school 6 miles away is the exact opposite of proximity.

We respectfully ask that you reconsider this proposal.

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Regina Fortuniewicz about 1 month ago

We live in Preston Forest and chose to move to this neighborhood based solely on the schools and the hope to build strong community ties. To-date, the assigned schools we identified as associated with this neighborhood are both excellent and have given our kids the ability to learn at an optimal level and make friends in continuum, nearby—that they also attend school with.

Looking forward Davis Drive Middle School is the most aligned with our neighborhood and family goals. The location of Davis Drive Middle School being just over a mile away, and East Cary being 6 miles away is a change that is in total misalignment.

The quality and status of school student achievement and location/proximity are core to the positive experience our children and all of the children in Preston Forest would prefer to continue.

To echo my husband and neighbors—Please reconsider the change which is detailed in Draft 1. I oppose Draft 1 of the proposal and sincerely hope that Draft 2 will rectify this concern, both geographically and logically.

Regina Fortuniewicz

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Cary Resident about 1 month ago

I, too, am shocked that my neighborhood could be moved from Davis Drive middle school. Both of my kids walked to school. Kids should be able to walk (or ride their bikes) to school unless safety is an issue, which there is not. It is good for their physical and mental health. Walking to school gets them outside and they exercise!

What about the Parkmeadow and Wellsey neighborhoods? Are they being moved? Those kids have to ride buses, they cannot walk. They should be moved before the closer neighborhoods. I live in Fenton Estates. It is a very small neighborhood and does not make a big impact. Please don't move these kids. Please don't make these ride buses when they can walk to school.

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Cary Resident about 1 month ago

Beth, throwing other neighborhoods under the bus no pun intended really accomplishes nothing. Neighborhoods farther west than you obviously make no more sense for reassignment than yours does. Would you like it if people proposed you being reassigned to Apex HS instead of them? Probably not. Make your arguments on your own merits.

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Cary Resident about 1 month ago

Boy you are mad!!! I did make my arguments on my neighborhood's own merits. But I never understood why kids who were farther away got to go to DDES . I don't know where your kids were privileged to go to elementary school, but my kids were bused to Weatherstone. They/we had a good experience there, but we can almost see DDES from our bus stop. Can you say the same? I do hope you get what you want. But I'm still going to make an argument for my small neighborhood.

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Li Zhao about 1 month ago

Thanks for the hard work to construct the best education environment for our kids. I have some questions and concerns about this new school assignment draft. My neighborhood Providence Commence has been assigned to Davis Drive middle school for more than twenty years. We live just besides Fresh Market on Cary parkway, about 1.5 miles away from Davis Drive Middle school. But East Cary Middle school is about 7 miles away from our house. I would try to understand some questions about this school district change. I read the 2019-20 Enrollment Proposal on WCPSS website carefully. I understand the main drivers of this plan are 4 newly opened schools: Green Level High School, Alston Ridge High School, Parkside elementary school, Southeast Raleigh High School. But Davis Drive middle school and East Cary Middle school do not really seem related to any of these four schools. We do not live near these new schools.

“Some other proposed changes are not related to the opening of new schools but would reduce overcrowding and/or maintain balanced student populations across our district.” Is Davis Drive Middle school overcrowded? I am not sure. But the new middle school like Alston Ridge Middle school can accommodate more students in nearby neighborhood and release some burden from Davis Drive Middle School. I found that Park Village will be moved from Davis Drive to Alston Ridge Middle School. These kind of reasonable changes are taking away students from Davis Drive. Is East Cary Middle school underutilized? I don’t know either. But it looks like to me one initial consideration for year around school is that the school has less facilities so year-round schedule can admit more students. That means East Cary Middle school did not use to be underutilized. Regarding balance student population, I don’t understand what that means. How can move our kids help balance student population? Last argument of this proposed plane: to maximize the transportation efficiency. This is an easy question to answer. We live around walking distance to Davis Drive Middle School. Busing students from our neighborhood far away cross half town of central Cary will contribute negatively to the traffic agenda.

Honestly we love Davis Drive middle school because this where we live very close by; this where we parents have been contributing in PTAs, clubs and fund raising; this is where our kids have been working so hard to achieve their goals, making friends, and bringing trophies and honors to their home schools. It is not fair to take our kids away from Davis Drive Middle School!

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Lorraine Taylor about 1 month ago

As an Arlington Ridge home owner, I am perplexed by how stupid this plan is! Someone above posted that our school board rep is endorsed by realtors, which might explain why our older, established neighborhood is being booted from DDMS in favor of the newer, more expensive developments that are sprouting up nearby. I chose this house because I wanted the DDMS experience for my child. It is a slap in the face to those of us who live so close to the school to be uprooted in favor of newcomers who could easily establish ties at the new schools that have been built. I agree with the other detailed posts on the many, many reasons why this plan is unacceptable and I plan to continue expressing my outrage over this. Our kids deserve better than this!

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Keila Valentin about 1 month ago

Agreed - this is about money!

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Keila Valentin about 1 month ago

My family and I relocated from Florida two years ago and purposely purchased a home based on the assigned schools - meaning that we paid a premium to be able to live in a home in this neighborhood. While I understand the need to make changes when a new school opens, moving those us who are within walking distance (I live a 1/2 mile away from DDMS) to a lower rated school 7 miles away is completely unacceptable and makes no sense. I purposely did not purchase a home in that area as I wanted to ensure we were zoned to DDMS. To add insult to injury, I have a rising 6th grader who will be starting DDMS this year and apparently not even she will be grandfathered to complete 8th grade at DDMS - who in the school board must be reminded how challenging middle school is to then have to be rezoned in your second year?

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Mike Michaud about 1 month ago

I am a homeowner in the Arlington Ridge subdivision, which is 1.5 miles away from Davis Drive Middle School. Davis Drive Middle School has been the base school for this established neighborhood for many years! Families similar to mine have chosen Arlington Ridge to live in based on its proximity to Davis Drive Middle School. Reassigning families from neighborhoods like Arlington Ridge to schools which are located on the other side of town will greatly impact the parents’ involvement in the school system as well as the time available for children outside of school hours. Please reconsider this proposal to avoid such negative impacts for Arlington Ridge, which is close in proximity to Davis Drive Middle School.

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Angry Parent about 1 month ago

Home Value Impact Analysis for Huntsmoor, Sherborne, Providence Commons, data retrieved on 8/25/2018 Assumption: after the proposed Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle School change, the Median Sale Price of the affected neighborhoods will drop to the Cary Median Home Sale Price. Disclaimer: This is a hypothetical analysis based on the Assumption above and may not be used for any real world situation. Cary Median Home Sale Price Baseline: https://www.zillow.com/cary-nc/home-values/, $326,700 Median sale price (Jun 30, 2018) Huntsmoor, Sherborne, Providence Commons Median Home Sale Prices: https://www.neighborhoods.com/huntsmoor-cary-nc, Median Sale Price:$394,000, impact: -$67,300 https://www.neighborhoods.com/sherborne-cary-nc, Median Sale Price:$433,550, impact: -$106,850 https://www.neighborhoods.com/providence-commons-cary-nc, Median Sale Price:$435,000, impact: -$108,300 The results of the hypothetical analysis suggest the proposed change will have a very negative impact on the home values of the affected three neighborhoods: Low impact: -$67,300 Average impact: -$94,150 Median impact: -$106,850 High impact: -$108,300

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Joe Boyd about 1 month ago

Unfortunately, neighborhoods such as ours with low turnover don't help realtors very much. Re-assign a school like DDMS to new construction neighborhoods and the homes sell fast and at a premium. Re-assign neighborhoods such as ours to another school not as highly rated as DDMS, and the homes will start go up for sale, albeit at a lower home value, but they will be sold. Makes a lot of fiscal sense for the realtors that endorse Bill Fletcher

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Gregory Studdard 20 days ago

RE: Rezoning of Sherborne Subdivision in Cary for David Drive Middle School. The subdivision is actually new to me. I just moved in with my daughter in June of this year! So you can imagine that a rezoning that quickly was rather alarming. I was on a mission to select DDMS district for my daughter to maximize her education and comfort level with a new school given it's consistent ratings.

I actually spent 17 years in Durham and specifically moved to this area for the Middle and High School. I rented last year so that my daughter could start 6th grade at Davis Drive Middle School. This rezoning actually does not impact her for completing middle school in fact...she will be grandfathered in to finish, or so I'm told....fingers crossed there.

I do take issue with the fact that I spent Enormous resources to move twice in one year to get accomplished a successful move into this community. The move into the rental home in Upchurch Farms (which STILL is zoned for DDMS) and then over here less than a year later, breaking my lease early when this home, which I love, came on the market! I actually paid a premium to buy it and make sure I got it over other bidders, as is common over here. So now, two months later, the decision to rezone the area, is VERY impactful to my home's VALUE....and of course NOT in taxes, those will remain HIGH unless I fight them on that and can show the value decrease!!

From what I can tell, new homes across Highway 55 and near Publix, on the same side of Cary across the 'line', are now zoned for DDMS, which is why there is little room left to keep us in the zone. This looks conspicuously like the WCPSS and Wake County have given more incentive for new home buyers to buy in their county, keep a high sales/tax price, and taken away the value to existing residents....wouldn't you agree?? It feels very much like a Bait and Switch to residents here, I just don't know if they have put it quite in those terms just yet...

As a member of the DDMS and Wake County COMMUNITY of RESIDENTS, I respectfully request reconsideration of plans to rezone Sherborne for Davis Drive Middle School.

Thank you for your time and attention to this difficult matter. If the Board is confident in a change then show us the comparison of education performance and distance/transportation time and make that case!

Greg Studdard Sherborne

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Mike Charney about 1 month ago

I agree with others here that the decision to reassign neighborhoods surrounding DDMS to East Cary violates the pillars of school assignment stated by the county. And adding new neighborhoods that are farther away is a concession to developers. Do the logical thing and follow your own stated pillars by keeping local neighborhoods assigned to local schools.

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Cassandra Millman about 1 month ago

I am a resident of the Arlington Ridge neighborhood. When we purchased our home, we intentionally bought a home where our children could walk or bike to school with their neighborhood friends and have the experience of being part of a community. We were thrilled that they would be students at DDMS which is a mile and a half from our home. We purposely chose a home in an established area because we wanted stability for them. We want our children and ourselves to be involved in the school and to be able to attend extra-curricular activities. East Cary is six miles from our home and that would be extremely difficult for us to do given the distance. I am shocked that it is now being proposed that they are bussed six miles away to a middle school that is outside of our community. These actions do not create stability or improve operational efficiency. They also do not make sense regarding proximity. If this proposed change goes through, it will most definitely have a negative impact on academic achievement. If this situation is being evaluated through the lens of what is best for children there is no way that it can go through. Please don't forget that there are actual children who will be negatively impacted by these decisions.

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Randy Berger about 1 month ago

We've lived in Arlington Ridge for 18 years and raised 5 children through the Davis Drive School (mostly). Right after we got moved into our home, this same thing happened, where our assigned elementary school was changed 3 times in 3 years. Having bought our home primarily because Davis Drive was an award winning school, we ended up homeschooling all of them during those years to avoid the impacts that it would have had on our younger ones. Decisions like this have far reaching consequences that should be considered.

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Jeffrey Millman about 1 month ago

I am a resident of Arlington Ridge. I echo the comments here about the lack of common sense in this decision. I understand not all decisions are driven by common sense and this reeks of a financially-driven decision. We moved here to join a community that seemed to focus on the well-being of the most important part of our society - our children. This decision would make it difficult for children to make the most of their day with a much longer commute and an earlier wake-up time, would decrease safety by forcing them to be in rush hour traffic every day, would make it more difficult to form strong friendships with friends much farther from home, and would decrease the sense of community. It would also add hardships to parents and lessen the chances that parents can be deeply involved in school activities. It is challenging enough for parents to coordinate work and school schedules and making it harder to get to school will absolutely impact the likelihood that parents will be able to attend as many school functions.

Schools should be setup and organized in such a way to help children succeed, provide them with the best chance for academic success, provide a safe and nurturing environment, and lay the foundation for a strong sense of community for both children and parents. This decision goes against these fundamental goals.

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Joe Boyd about 1 month ago

To add to my previous comment, I believe for full disclosure that everyone should be aware that Bill Fletcher is a licensed Realtor with a Keller Williams office in Cary.

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Re Be 28 days ago

Hi Joe- I sincerely hope you're attending the Adams Elementry talk tonight at 630 (Wednesday the 29th) and I hope you directly ask Bill about the "personal gains" he hopes to accomplish by this proposal. I'll have my video camera rolling. ;)

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Jerry Meyer 30 days ago

Please contact WCPSS Superintendent Ms. Cathy Moore at https://www.wcpss.net/Page/264 and let her know how you feel about this conflict of interest!

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Marybeth Boyd 26 days ago

I just emailed Ms. Moore and attached the WCPSS Policy Manual. https://boardpolicyonline.com/bl/?b=wake_new#&&hs=194159

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Re Be 28 days ago

Thank you thank you thank you!!! I wish I could highlight your comment! I just followed your link and it took all of 2 seconds! I hope everyone reaches out to Ms Moore about Bill's conflict of interest.

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Kelley Chapman 29 days ago

Joe / Jerry - Is this really the same Bill Fletcher? If so...he should not be made to represent us...his interests are clearly in lining his own pockets. If this is true..this is beyond unacceptable!!!!

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Michael Albidrez about 1 month ago

I agree with everyone here. We live on Chestone Ct. which is the closest Sherborne street to DDMS...0.4 miles. Google Maps actually shows the distance in steps! We purchased this house with comfort knowing our kids would go to top rated schools. I also want to point out that East Cary Middle is still currently year round. There is a separate topic about maybe changing it to a traditional calendar school but that may not happen. So, not only will we have to deal with all the issues you all have listed...we will also have to change our entire yearly schedules to accommodate the year round calendar. Totally unacceptable.

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Michael ODriscoll about 1 month ago

Our Huntsmoor and Fairfax neighborhood is approximately 1 mile from DDMS but 6 miles to ECMS. We are dissapointed about this proposed change to send students that have been attending DDMS to another school in the middle of their education, as our two children just started 6th grade at DDMS. My wife and I both work and we chose to live within walking distance of the school to help make it possible for our two children to walk home from school and be able to participate in after school activities. We are concerned that with the proposed changes they will have a year at DDMS and then get uprooted at the start of 7th grade, this approach will impair their (and other students in similar situations) opportunities to achieve academic success, to have stability in their middle school education, and to participate in extracurricular activities. The proposed changes would be particularly detrimental to rising 7th graders who are not grandfathered in and would result in additional transportation costs when adding students to transport who can currently walk or use other forms of transport rather than bus. Other concerned parents have suggested considering the general 1.5 mile walk zone (https://www.wcpss.net/Page/175) or a larger area near the school to continue to remain in DDMS, attached is an image of the approximate area that a 1.5 mile zone adjacent to the school would cover.

I strongly oppose any changes that result in students starting middle school at DDMS and changing schools a year later. Please consider the effects on our children’s education and development that uprooting them will have and reconsider the proposed plans to change base schools for neighborhoods that are within a couple of miles from DDMS. Thank you for considering this and other requests.

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Jeffrey Millman about 1 month ago

I just wanted everyone to know some key dates regarding this topic:

-- August 29th -- THIS Wednesday -- Meeting with Bill Fletcher (Wake County School Board Member) at 6:30pm at Adams Elementary School. Please, please show up and voice your concerns. -- September 18th - Draft #2 will be presented to the Board and public -- Week of Sept. 24-28 Public Information Sessions (dates and locations will be announced in the Wake County Website) -- October 16 - Draft #3 will be presented -- October 30th - Public hearing at 5625 Dillard Drive, Cary -- Time??? -- November 20 - Board votes on final plan

You can also email Wake County School Board Member Bill Fletcher directly at bfletcher@wcpss.net

Next step is meeting August 29th at Adams Elementary. Thanks!!!!

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Ngoc Hulbig about 1 month ago

And all wear NAVY BLUE!

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Brandon Bryce about 1 month ago

Let me start by saying thank you to the many homeowners and parents that are actively expressing their voices and perspectives regarding the negative implications of the draft one school re-assignments. This draft, which currently proposes rezoning local/established neighborhoods away from Davis Drive Middle School (DDMS) to East Cary Middle School (ECMS) is deeply concerning, lacks rationale and is upsetting on many levels.

As a home owner in Stonegate/Sherborne, which is the closest neighborhood to DDMS (less than 0.5 miles) this rezoning fiasco brings back painful memories of 17 years ago when many of us were zoned away from Davis Drive Elementary! Enough is enough!

Mr. Bill Fletcher, how does this happen? Filling seats at ECMS is not a reason or an appropriate response to justify our inclusion in this rezoning proposal! According to WCPSS, this rezoning was drafted to address new schools, maximize transportation efficiency and reduce overcrowding. DDMS and ECMS are not new schools. My child along with many others walk or ride bicycles to DDMS every morning, as would our son next year as a rising 6th grader. DDMS and ECMS are not over-crowed or capped so baseline measures for including our neighborhood lacks reasoning on all accords and seems completely arbitrary.

As I understand it, WCPSS uses four pillars in developing school reassignments including student achievement, stability, proximity and operational efficiency. I plead for someone on the board to step forward in defense of Stonegate/Sherborne as we are again being screwed on ALL FOUR PILLARS! Mr. Bill Fletcher or any one of the other eight district school board members, please take into consideration that our local and established neighborhood Stonegate/Sherborne has ZERO tradeoffs with your pillars...we again find ourselves in a lose-lose situation!

STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT: Students are being asked to do more and more every year in WCPSS classrooms! My daughter has worked tirelessly to earn Honor Roll status at DDMS and contribute to its Blue Ribbon distinction. She spends almost 40 hours per week at DDMS attending classes, participating in school clubs and supporting many of her friends that participate on sports teams. What message are we sending my daughter and other children if they are ripped away from their friends, classmates, mentors and teachers during a critical development period in their lives? There is no answer to that question. Furthermore, if student achievement is truly important to WCPSS, please note that ECMS lacks the Blue Ribbon designation, does not offer comparable enrichment opportunities as DDMS including orchestra, electives and a variety of clubs. This shortfall creates immediate inequities for students being zoned away for DDMS in the proposal.

STABILITY: Stability is mentioned on page 82 of the WCPSS BOE Work Session Plan Presentation yet it lacks a clear definition and only identifies a few grandfathering provisions. Stability is much more than insufficient grandfathering provisions. Stability is a foundation of local neighborhoods, families and students that participate together in building local schools. I asked my daughter what stability means to her and she described attributes such as solid, steady, strong and safe. This pillar of WCPSS falls short on many levels and also fails to acknowledge the stability created by local parents that spend valuable time helping DDMS teachers and administrators in classrooms, fund raising, volunteering, proctoring exams, etc. Stability should also be owning a home for 20+ years with an expectation that your children will go to the same schools as their siblings and not be subject to rezoning proposals to simply fill seats at a school more than 7 miles across town.

PROXIMITY: Children in Stonegate/Sherborne walk and ride bicycles to school every day! The travel time is less than 7 minutes by foot and 4 minutes by bicycle. Rezoning our children from DDMS to ECMS not only eliminates the option to walk or cycle to school, it requires students give up many extracurricular activities due to a sizable cross-town commute which adds at least 90 minutes of travel each day. In our household alone, this commute eliminates my daughter's access to supplemental speech therapy, participation in after school clubs and compromises her access to tutoring services. Proximity is a benefit and it removes obstacles for our children - this rezoning proposal ONLY places more obstacles in their paths and adds to the operational complexity for WCPSS. Lastly, we all know that many new residential developments are sprouting up in West Cary but the notion of OUT WITH THE OLD/IN WITH THE NEW is not a becoming characteristic of WCPSS or the answer to filling seats at ECMS. These new residential developments (unestablished and yet to be built) are zoned for DDMS and this is a complete shame! These developments are NOT closer in proximity to Stonegate/Sherborne and they seem like a wonderful place to look for filling seats at other schools. I don't want to tread down the path of the influence of residential development and real estate brokers in our community - so I'll leave that narrative to others on the forum - and we can agree that these new and any future developments are unestablished, not within walking distance to DDMS, will require busing and are further away than Stonegate/Sherborne and many other subdivisions impacted by this proposal.

Operational Efficiency: Factors for considering operational efficiency include minimizing under enrolled and overcrowded schools as well as streamlining transportation services. Again, this pillar comes into question with Stonegate/Sherborne as DDMS nor ECMS are capped schools. We also don't ride the bus to DDMS and you can't get more efficient than that!

I want you to know that I am following the forums and countless social media conversations which capture the hardships, inequities and economic realities of rezoning Stonegate/Sherborne from DDMS to ECMS. This time around, please listen to the many voices of objection from not only my neighborhood but those also impacted. I will be in attendance this coming Wednesday to continue this movement for removing our neighborhood from this rezoning proposal. In correspondence with a handful of my neighbors, you've asked for some additional suggestions for moving students so let me leave you with a few thought starters:

  • Leave neighborhoods within 1 or 2 miles of DDMS at the school
  • Several posts (forum and social) suggest people want to stay at East Cary - let them stay
  • Keep East Cary Middle as a Year-Round school; it's the only Year-Round option in Cary
  • ALL new residential developments in Cary can fill seats in the East for the next 7 years

Thank you for your time and consideration. Regards, Brandon Bryce

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Vivek Vaidya 28 days ago

Could not agree with you more. All valid points. Hope WCPSS takes this into consideration.

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Re Be 28 days ago

Hear, hear! Brandon Bryce for District 9 School Board... he seems to have some great ideas!

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Ngoc Hulbig about 1 month ago

All great points, Brandon. I believe that every DDMS neighborhood that is proposed for reassignment to East Cary is within 1.8 miles of the DDMS. Our kids bike that distance easily, and Google Maps calculates the walking time for that distance to be 37 minutes--much faster than the 1 hour and 15 minutes it took for WCPSS to bus our children home from our elementary school that is 2.5 miles away!

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Shyamala Mahadevan 30 days ago

Thank you SO MUCH for the very well written message Brandon! Your suggestions for draft 2 are crystal clear and perfect! I am your neighbor from Arlington Ridge and we are so thankful that you drafted these excellent suggestions.

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Jessica Banik 26 days ago

Totally agree with you, Especially new developments should sign to ECMS, not changing surrounding existing neighborhoods to ECMS!

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S O at September 18, 2018 at 1:51pm EDT

I completely agree with Brandon. As a resident of Fenton Estates, we are only 0.5 miles away from DDMS. We just moved in recently specifically for this school assignment and the ability to walk to school. As many have stated, being involved which is key to a child's success in school, will be extremely difficult if we are reassigned to ECMS. Please reconsider this decision. Let those less than a mile from DDMS stay assigned. Keep East Cary year round and let those that are currently attending stay. Send new students in newly developed neighborhoods to East Cary. Thank you.

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Amanda Douglass about 1 month ago

Thank you for your wonderful post and so eloquently explaining MANY of our concerns and offering fair suggestions for Draft 2. I hope the Board truly does listen to and implement some changes in Draft 2! Our Stonegate/Sherborne neighborhood appreciates you!

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Sree Ratnasinghe about 1 month ago

Hello Wake County School Board, we live in a small subdivision called Kenilworth at the intersection of Cary Parkway and Waldo Rood, door-to-door 1.2 miles from Davis Drive Middle School. We moved from out of state a year ago and specifically chose our neighborhood because of two daughters going to the highly rated Davis Drive Middle School. My husband and I strongly oppose the proposal to switch Kenilworth to East Cary Middle, for the following reasons:

  1. Proximity. Switching from a school that is 1.2 miles from home to 6.1 miles from home? Does not make any sense. Our kids frequently stay after school for clubs and projects, and safely walk home after school. This is very convenient in a household with two working parents, not to mention the exercise benefits. A 6 mile distance is not walkable and adds significant transportation time to the day. We work in the Research Triangle Park / Morrisville and we have planned our commutes and routines such that we drop by Davis Drive on the way home from work. The switch to East Cary would cause significant disturbance to the entire family's routine and after school schedules.

  2. Quality of Education. Davis Drive Middle School is extremely highly ranked by niche.com, and many other measures. Principal Rick Williams Jr is simply outstanding and leads a school which focuses on safety, academic excellence, and development of character. While I am sure East Cary also has good administration, Easy Cary is not as highly ranked on multiple measures, including safety.

  3. I believe you have asked for suggestions to ameliorate what is a true over-crowding issue. All new neighborhoods being built, including ones near Davis Drive, can be routed to Easy Cary Middle school. This would avoid displacement of families.

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Michael Yilma about 1 month ago

I live in Providence Commons subdivision. I am strongly opposed to the proposed assignment of Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary for various reasons: - Proximity to our neighborhood ( 1 mile vs. 6 miles) - Negative impact on parents involvement with the school based on the the proximity of the school - Longer commute time is not cost effective for the county as well as families doing car pool. Overall, this move seems to contradict some of the "Four Pillars" of the student assignments. IMO, both "stability" & "operational effectiveness" are compromised with this move. I hope this move will be reconsidered.

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Jeff Ward 30 days ago

I'm disappointed in WCPSS that the Fairfax and Huntsmoor neighborhood's base school has been proposed to change from DDMS to ECMS, which is 1 mile versus 6 miles away. Its a bike ride/quick hop in the car vs. a 15 minute carpool/30 minute bus ride.

Obviously, many people, my family included, purchase homes after carefully researching schools. DDMS is a fantastic school and I'm sure many want to be rezoned, but this shouldn't be at the expense of students and communities that are nearby who are already invested in the school.

I would challenge WCPSS to find a better solution limits students time on buses and promote neighborhood schools within communities.

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Ngoc Hulbig 30 days ago

30 minutes would be a miracle. Weatherstone Elementary (2.5 miles from us) dismisses at 3:45. Afternoon bus regularly dropped the kids off at about 5:00 last year.

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Nicola Lefler 30 days ago

I am opposed to the proposed change to move the Stonegate/Sherborne neighborhood away from DDMS. It will shatter the community. This has happened before, when we were zoned away from DDES. Each family with elementary age children chose different schools rather than going to Weatherstone. Some chose private, charter, or home schools, whatever was better for their family. The result was these children did not know each other. The parents didn't know each other. Everyone was on different schedules. My child went to Weatherstone, but didn't get to participate in school activities. We never felt connected to our community and now other families will have to watch their kids grow up without friends to play with after school and on weekends.

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Shawn Jackson 30 days ago

This current proposal by the Wake County School board is completely irresponsible. While I understand the need to discuss reassigning students as Cary is experiencing unprecedented growth, I don’t understand why the school board thought it would be a good idea to propose moving kids who walk/bike to school. IMO the best option would be to leave existing students where they are and re-route all new neighborhood kids to proposed school options. We have been living off of Waldo Rood for 11 years and it doesn’t make practical sense to uproot kids and force them to attend a different school while kids in newer neighborhoods, which are further away, would attend DDMS. Additionally, I would be remiss if I didn’t remind the board about last years proposal where neighborhoods Carpenter/Olde Carpenter/Wexford/Chessington/Cedar Bend were included in the proposal but remained zoned @ DDMS for the 2018-2019 school year. Under the 2019-2020 proposal these neighborhoods would be zoned to Alston Ridge. If this happens, in theory, there should be plenty of space for all current/future bike/walk students to remain at DDMS for years to come. Lastly, if DDMS isn’t capped, I would ask the board to strongly consider capping enrollment @ DDMS to ensure all existing home owners have the opportunity for their kids to attend their neighborhood school so that we can connect and grow as a community. comment...

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Aimee Bryce 30 days ago

Excellent point about Carpenter/Olde Carpenter/Wexford/Chessington/Cedar Bend being re-zoned to Alston Ridge Middle. With that re-zoning, that would put many seats back at DDMS for the students within walking distance to DDMS.

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Jerry Meyer 30 days ago

I am a resident of the Candlewood Subdivision off Cary Parkway. I am STRONGLY opposed to the assignment of Davis Drive MS students to East Cary MS within all of the reasons posted in this forum.

Also: Is it true the at the school board member that is running the meeting Wednesday night, Bill Fletcher, is also a Real Estate agent? Is this him? https://www.billfletcher.com/ If so, one has to strongly wonder if he may have a financial interest in this reassignment. IMO: WCPSS should excuse him from this matter based on that fact alone!

It is also not appreciated that this issue seems to be intentionally being sneakily presented with ONLY an email on Tuesday, August 21st. (NO letter to all effected homeowners who care about property values) This with an urgent first meeting for Wednesday, August 29th, that is during THE FIRST WEEK OF SCHOOL! (Seems intentional to not allow an organized initial response) The Wake County School board should know all to well how stressful the first week of school is! I DO NOT APPRECIATE THIS ISSUE BEING ADDRESSED DURING THE FIRST WEEK OF SCHOOL!!!!

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Michelle OKeefe 30 days ago

I am a resident of the Muir Woods subdivision off Cary Parkway. I am STRONGLY opposed to the reassignment of DDMS to ECMS due to all the reasons addressed above. I bought this house in this subdivision due to the schools that were assigned and likely to stay assigned during the time we had kids in them. Davis Drive is less than 2 miles away while East Cary is over 5 miles away.

I think it is ridiculous for the WCSS to spend the money and resources on busing kids additional miles to a school. It seems like a waste of resources in a tight economy and tight school budget. Why spend unnecessary money to bus kids across town in traffic. This is going to create traffic nightmares.

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Jerry Meyer 30 days ago

My daughters Elementary School and it is 1.3 miles from our home. The school bus on average takes 45 Minuets to get her to home. On bad days, with the never ending rotation of new bus drivers, or broken down buses, it has taken over 90 minuets for her to get home. We have filed complaints with Transportation in the past . . . . It will be a full time job for kids riding the bus to get to and from school under this initial proposal!

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Marisa Kaufman 30 days ago

We live in Preston Forest and have for 10 years. I am so incredibly sad and disappointed in the Wake Country School Board. They have again, put numbers ahead of people and communities. We live within 2 miles from Davis Drive MS and our neighborhood has ALWAYS been zoned for Davis Drive. When people move here and choose this neighborhood, it is often because they can count on where they are going to send their kids to elementary school, middle school and high school. I know of a family who just moved here a few weeks ago for this very reason! This is so typical of Wake County, it is all about the numbers. You do not care about the people!! This is exactly what forces so many people to choose private school. They have no faith in you! You don't care about their children's education which is impacted considerably by family involvement and community! The families in Preston Forest have always been so involved with Davis Drive MS and this decision hurts their children, families and the teachers and administrators at DDMS who count on their support!!! You CANNOT keep moving kids around because you have so too many kids in Wake County!! Communities should be allowed to grow and work with schools, year after year. Wake County Schools has, once again, disappointed me, my family, and my community. Preston Forest should be allowed to stay at DDMS.

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Katie Shumake 30 days ago

I agree with everything said in the comments above. Another consideration is that East Cary Middle School is not a feeder school for Green Hope High School, which is where the re-zoned students will be going. Incoming students to Green Hope High School from East Cary Middle School will know very few of their peers relative to other Green Hope High School students coming from Davis Drive Middle and West Cary Middle.

Compared to their peers, they will have very few established social connections when they start high school, putting them at a disadvantage compared to other Green Hope High students. Why would you do that to a child? Why would you have them start a socially difficult time without the support of their friends?

I think it's pretty obvious that what's best for the re-zoned students was never a consideration.

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Greg Williams 30 days ago

. I cannot understand how you can plan to move children from a school that they can walk to a school across the town. And then with Davis Drive there are children that live in Preston and other areas further away that stay at Davis Drive. I live at130 Wheatsbury Drive which backs up to Waldo Rood and our kids could walk easily to school Ours is an established neighborhood that does not have that many kids so it could not have a big effect. Especially not compared to the number of people that you are upsetting and the danger you are putting these children in with all the travel. Also, if I ever decided to sell my house, it would be hard to explain why kids are bused across town. But one of the biggest reasons is the time difference. At one time our neighborhood got rezoned for elementary school to Weatherstone and we had one child in elementary, one in middle, and one in high school at Green Hope. We had to get a waiver so our youngest could go to the school she could walk to. And also since both my wife and I work we had issues working it into our schedule since Weatherstone started an hour later as well as dismissed. When are you going to simply open your eyes and see how ludicrous this is.

As a tax payer, I expect better.

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Matt Dees admin 30 days ago

All: To clarify about Wednesday's BAC meeting. There is not a formal public comment at Board Advisory Council meetings. The best way to provide feedback about Draft 1 is on this forum, which is monitored by staff and board members. The BAC meetings are intended to provide clarity about Draft 1 proposals, particularly those related to that board member's district. You will have an opportunity to ask questions at the meeting.

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Jennifer Jackson 30 days ago

Has the impact of Cardinal Charter Academy been considered with regard to ECMS's enrollment? This school opened for the 2014-2015 school year and has a capacity of 1145 students (K-8). This means they can accomodate approximately 350-400 middle schoolers. With it's location 2.5 miles away, it appears that ECMS families could be opting for this school. How and why was a charter school approved and built in a more mature area of Cary when there is such a shortage of seats on the other side of town? Don't compound one bad decision with another.

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Matt Dees admin 29 days ago

Hi Jennifer. We have no control of charter school approvals. They are separate entities completely. The State Board of Education considers applications to open charter schools. http://www.ncpublicschools.org/charterschools/

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Jenny Bengen 30 days ago

I live in the Arlington Ridge neighborhood and I am STRONGLY OPPOSED to moving our base middle school from Davis Drive to East Cary! We bought in this neighborhood because we wanted a neighborhood where our son could walk or bike to school from, to help create a sense of community. It makes NO sense to send us to a school SIX miles away when we can walk or bike to a school that's 1.5 miles away! This neighborhood has been attending this school forever, and has strong community involvement in the school as a result. Please do not do this! Thank you.

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Denise Sturdy 30 days ago

I am a resident of Cavdlewood subdivision and I am adamantly opposed to the proposed change from Davis Drive to East Cary. Put students from the new developments that are springing up all over Cary in East Cary and leave the long established neighborhoods attending the school they have been assigned to for years.

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Paranjay Patel 29 days ago

We live in Stonegate/Sherborne neighborhood. We strongly oppose the re-zoning which does not follow the criteria listed in the enrollment decisions. None of the criteria listed in the enrollment decisions (Student Achievement, Stability, Proximity and Operational Efficiency) makes any sense in this case.I would like to appeal WCPSS to reconsider this proposal based of the same factors: "Student Achievement, Stability, Proximity and Operational Efficiency". Keep Stonegate/Sherborne (and surrounding neighborhoods) to DDMS.

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Karen Albidrez 29 days ago

I live on Chestone Court in Sherborne. Our home is 4 houses from the crossing guard that crosses children from the opposite side of the street to Davis Drive schools that provide their education, less than five minutes walk from our corner. It is despicable that the county has forced our family, despite failed hearing attempts, to shuttle our kids to a different elementary school 3.5 miles/15 minute drive away, thus blocking our children from attending Davis elementary school that provides the most sensible solution to the 4 Pillars we sought for our kids and for our family. Now, we face the same issue for their future when they should attend middle school should this proposal be entertained! Please, stop the nonsense! Wake County is creating more problems than solutions by entertaining this re-assignment proposal any further. The upheaval of our families, lives within our household, the communities we are members of, are affected in every way when we are threatened to be strong-armed out of our community schools. Our children suffer, our family dynamics suffer, and in no way do we benefit from this non-sensible proposal. From the 4 Pillar assignment decision tool: Proximity and Operational efficiency - GoogleMaps has us walking 9 minutes from door to door to DDMS. As a Nurse and proponent of health and wellness, walking even this small amount not only propels my children to establish healthier habits, but also prevents them from being subject to a twice daily, 18-25 minute drive/6.5 mile commute and that is, if we don't encounter the train, construction, and regular traffic through downtown Cary. There is no way I would ever entertain putting my children on a bus to add more time and more stops to their already strained commute time. It just won't happen. Stability: Our neighbors attend DDMS, we play at DD park, sled down their hills in the winter. DDMS is part of our inner community, not just a building we will attend one day. Student Achievement: Attending school at DDMS will allow our children the opportunity to grow to be a part of their school community, to be active citizens in their own environment. Being so far from ECMS will not allow my children the opportunity to participate in the community it is located in. Thus, their personal investment in their own education will then suffer. Too many extraneous factors not only make this a poor choice for Wake County, for all families involved, but will be a great loss for the surrounding communities that will cultivate our future leaders. Keep Sherborne at DDMS, in our own neighborhood!

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Remi Ham 29 days ago

Our family lives in Arlington Ridge, which is an extremely short distance to DDMS. We strongly oppose the reassignment proposal to East Cary Middle School. With three other children, the further distance would be a significant hardship on our family. Additionally, we have always been active participants of our children’s school activities and the PTA – the further distance would prohibit us from contributing to the school community in a meaningful way.

As others have echoed – we live so CLOSE to DDMS. Why make this change?! Our work schedules and children’s schedules work well with the current DDMS start time. They have grown accustom to these schedules. Changing the school will be a significant hardship and detrimentally impact our day to day lives. Among many other things, if we have to wake our children up so much earlier to have them transported to ECMS, it negatively impacts their ability to participate in after school activities, and makes the transport of our multiple kids extremely complicated!

This change does NOT make sense - please do not approve this reassignment!!! Please keep DDMS assigned to Arlington Ridge.

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Janet Carnell 29 days ago

While I applaud the efforts to reduce the overcrowding at Davis Drive Middle School, I do not approve the proposal to send children that live within walking distance to the school be sent to East Cary Middle School. I live in the Arlington Ridge neighborhood which is located 1.1 miles away from Davis Drive Middle School. This is an established neighborhood where my children have attended Davis Drive Middle School for years. This is their neighborhood school. How can a school built in an established community not include its closest residents? I question how the lines were drawn to include residents from further neighborhoods to attend Davis Drive Middle School. I believe the lines should be redrawn to permit a two mile radius around Davis Drive Middle School so that the closest residents can attend their neighborhood school. Attending your neighborhood school fosters parental support, volunteerism in the school, and school involvement through clubs, sports, and after school activities. I have experienced first hand the overcrowding at both Davis Drive Elementary and Davis Drive Middle School over the years and they can no longer operate efficiently in their present state but you need to look at the long term impact of your decision and design a proposal that is fair and equitable to the citizens that live within close proximity and support their neighborhood school. Thank you for your consideration.

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Kelley Chapman 29 days ago

Hi Janet - It is my understanding that the proposal's primary function has nothing to do with overcrowding at DDMS, but rather filling ECMS.

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Angela Buchanan 29 days ago

My youngest son started at DDMS as a 6th grader yesterday and we have purposely stayed in the Huntsmoor community so he can have the amazing opportunity to attend DDMS like his older brother. We were so impressed with the teachers, principles, coaches and school that we want our youngest son to have the same opportunity.

The new proposal has us moving to East Cary next year which is far from our home and creates a burden on our family. (Today, our son is able to walk to/from school which allows him to participate in after-school activities since both parents work.) I would like our youngest to have the opportunity to have the full middle school experience. If he ends up going to East Cary he will experience longer commute times which adds additional traffic to the already busy Cary streets.

This change in base schools to East Cary also impacts the home values of our neighborhoods which now because a bigger problem for many of the Cary residents that live within walking distance to an amazing school.

Please do not make the change - do not approve the reassignment of DDMS students to East Cary and keep the Huntsmoor community assigned to DDMS. Thanks for the consideration!

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DO Leighton 29 days ago

I am a resident of the Fairfax/Huntsmoor Subdivision and am strongly opposed to moving our base middle school from Davis Drive to East Cary. Below are the reasons why:
- Davis Drive is 1.3 miles away/East Cary 5.3 miles away. Kids can now walk/bike to school or take a short bus ride. They will be required to ride the bus or have parents drive further reducing time after school and increasing traffic. Also, this moves kids further from clubs, teams, and peers.
- Student Continuity - East Cary is a feeder school for Cary High School (not Green Hope, our base High School). This will make their transition to high school even harder.
- East Cary offers fewer clubs, teams, activities than Davis Drive. - East Cary has an earlier start time than Davis Drive, making the distance an even bigger issue.
This change does not make sense and negatively impacts parents, children and the community. Please do not approve this reassignment.

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Laura Penchuk 29 days ago

I am a resident of the Fairfax/Huntsmoor Neighborhood and I’m strongly opposed to the proposed assignment of Davis Drive students to East Cary for all of the reasons posted in this forum.

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Logan Cowie 29 days ago

As a resident of the Stonegate/Sherborne neighborhood, I read with great dismay the proposed re-zoning from Davis Drive to East Cary.

We all know how wonderful a school DDMS is for our students, but let’s not forget that a major factor in that success is the relentless (and mostly unheralded) contribution of the community parents over the last 15+ years. The foundation of DDMS relies on the local neighborhoods.

The proposed rezoning eliminates the community that is the fabric of DDMS. Please ensure that the kids continue to be able to enjoy walking and cycling the 0.6 miles to the school that their older siblings and parents contributed to making a successful middle school.

Let’s make decisions that are in the very best interests of the student. We are fortunately to have a lot of intelligent people in both WCPSS and the community. I’m sure collectively we can find a better solution that will avoid the proposed re-zoning and impact to both DDMS and students.

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Gretel Kloempken 29 days ago

We bought our home in Fenton Estates at the same time as Davis Drive Elementary and Middle Schools were built. We picked the location because it meant that when we had children, they would be able to walk to a neighborhood school with other kids from our street and those near us.

A few years later, when we had kids and they were starting school, we discovered that we had been redistricted and our base school, Weatherstone, was 3.1 miles away. There are 6 elementary schools closer to us than Weatherstone (Davis Drive, Morrisville, Green Hope, Turner Creek, Salem, Carpenter), yet we got sent to Weatherstone. We applied to Davis Drive but did not get in. After 1 year, I figured that as long as we had to commute to school, we might as well apply to a magnet school. Our oldest got in at Farmington Woods, and our youngest started there 2 years later.

We had decisions to make when it was time for Middle School. We could apply and continue on with the majority of their school at Martin, or revert to our base school, Davis Drive Middle. I was very happy that we would be "allowed" to finally attend a neighborhood school with the rest of our area, and we happily opted that route over the long commute to Martin. It also meant that finally we could walk to and from school, easing the strain on school transportation.

Our oldest finished at Davis Drive and is now at Green Hope. Our youngest is currently at Davis Drive, and we're crossing our fingers that she'll be able to continue on and spend all 4 years at Green Hope.

According to the map, our street, though just 0.6 miles from Davis Drive Middle, will be the boundary line, and the first street being sent to East Cary. We back up to Searstone, a retirement community, which could send kids to Davis Drive. Does that make sense? Our street has not had more than 3 kids at a time attend Davis Drive Middle, so we're certainly not overburdening the school. We are within walking distance of the school, and some of the homes closest to the school, yet houses on the west side of Hwy 55 can attend Davis Drive Middle. Rather than having our kids walk to school, they'd rather bus the kids farther away to Davis Drive and bus our kids to East Cary. Not only is that poor planning, but an increase in expense.

Too many families on our side of Davis Drive have had to deal with this situation for years. We are the first to be rezoned, while newer communities get the benefit of the schools that we can see from our front steps, yet can't attend.

We have continued to live where we do because we are finally in the schools that were part of the reason why we picked this area over many others. My children finally have friends at school where they can walk home together or meet up with over the summer. They are in activities with other kids from their school, and we have a support network of parents that help these kids transition between school, sports, homework and many extracurricular activities.

The district needs to look at the well-being of the students and the families (need I say taxpayers that pay for the schools) before just randomly moving people around.

There are many valid points in this forum, and I hope that all are considered. If so, the educated result is to allow the homes and families close to Davis Drive Middle to stay at that school.

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Brandon Bryce 29 days ago

Mr. Bill Fletcher and all other district school board members, as more and more voices pour into this forum sharing the negative implications of rezoning Sherborne/Stonegate from DDMS to ECMS, I ask that you please listen and take inventory of the multitude of issues this week regarding the busing of children to/from schools. Local news stations are asking for parents to share their horror stories already and as walkers to DDMS our children don't deserve to be thrown into this mess. We live 0.6 miles from DDMS and I've provided a map for EVERYONE to see just how close we are to the school and to demonstrate the ease of walking, riding or dropping off. Proximity matters for our children and walking 5 minutes to/from school (rather than busing for 1.5 hours a day) has to be taken into consideration.

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Jennifer Jackson 29 days ago

Agree - https://www.wral.com/fuels-leaks-bad-tires-worn-brakes-wral-investigates-nc-school-bus-inspections/17790347/

This article states: Records reviewed by WRAL Investigates show that when the state showed up to the Wake County Public School System recently, 35 of the 80 buses inspected – about 44 percent – were pulled off the road.

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Brandon Bryce 29 days ago

Matt Dees, Can you confirm that my map (pdf format) uploaded properly? I want to make sure that your team sees the image. Thank you

Attachments: Do_not_rezone-v1.pdf
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Matt Dees admin 28 days ago

Yes, the image came through.

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Carin Scott 29 days ago

I am a resident of the Muir Woods subdivision and I also strongly oppose the reassignment of DDMS students to ECMS for many of the same reasons that others have posted in this forum.

I do not think that it is in the best interest of our students who live within 2 miles of DDMS to be bused 6 miles away to ECMS. This negatively impacts our students' academic experience and their access to after school activities, affects the ability for families to support and volunteer in the school, complicates family logistics, and further burdens the WCPSS's transportation system.

Please keep Muir Woods and our neighboring subdivisions assigned to DDMS.

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Kelley Chapman 29 days ago

I am 1.2 miles from Davis Drive and my kids can walk there. I have lived in my house for 12 years and have had 3 kids go through DDMS. I now have a 6th grader that would have to travel 6 times as far to ECMS. This is absolutely ridiculous. The proposal shows moves from Mills Park and WCMS to DDMS. All of these people are further away than us. This represents absolutely no socio-economic advantage...at all, so this is mind boggling. The thought of the amount of extra traffic and busses transversing already overcrowded Cary roads for what? Kids safety is clearly NOT a consideration in this proposal. Nor is the costs of bussing.

Bottom line, I am a resident of the Fairfax/Huntsmoor Neighborhood and I’m strongly opposed to the proposed assignment of Davis Drive students to East Cary for all of the reasons posted in this forum.

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DDMS Parent 29 days ago

Mr Fletcher - can you explain the difference between your advice to prospective home buyers in this interview versus this year's proposed reassignment plan? Or does this logic only apply when you're selling houses?

http://spencerprop.com/portfolio-items/interview-with-bill-fletcher/

At 3:01 "If you really have a passion to go into a particular school go ahead and make you a real estate decision cause not buying that house you won’t be in that school".

We've all done this and built a community around that school.

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Marybeth Boyd 29 days ago

Exactly! We bought our house in the Sherborne neighborhood 10 years ago specifically for Davis Drive Middle and the proximity to it. Having my kids be able to walk and not have to rely on the school bus was a huge selling point for us. This frees up seats on the bus for other children that are not in such close proximity. Again, having us move to ECMS, over 6 miles away is not acceptable.

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Varsha Malkar 29 days ago

We live in Arlington Ridge which is 1.5 miles away from Davis Drive MS. Davis Drive MS has always been the base school for our community. I am having a hard time processing this proposal. It just doesn’t make any sense to take away a neighborhood school and force the kids to go to a “neighborhood” school on the other side of Cary. This move in no way contributes to the four pillars that are student achievement, stability, proximity, and operational efficiency. I sincerely request the education board to reconsider the proposal and restore Davis Drive MS to our community and spare parents and kids from any further distress.

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Michael Roberti 29 days ago

We live in Fenton Estates. I am shocked to find that Wake County is considering bussing children over 6 miles away to an unfamiliar area when a neighborhood school is walking distance from our house. As other folks have mentioned, Wake County will have to remove two, possibly three of it's four pillars because this proposal is in direct conflict with your mission. This proposal does not foster a sense of "Proximity" where children attend schools close to their neighborhoods and someone will have to convince me that this proposal promotes "Operational Efficiency".

One could even argue that it tears at the pillar of "Stability". I could accept and understand that school boundaries need to be adjusted occasionally for neighborhoods that are located on the boundary edges - but clearly being located less that a few hundred yards from a DDMS, we are nowhere near the edge of the boundary. And therefore this creates instability versus fostering "Stability" that Wake Co claims as a tenant pillar. I just don't see the rationale for this proposal. And I recommend that the proposal be put to a vote by the county residents that will be directly affected!

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Abul Shamsuddin 29 days ago

I am VERY STRONGLY opposed to this action. We live in the Fenton Estates neighborhood and we bought our house solely based on the excellent schools that are around here. Davis Drive Middle is 5 minutes, walking distance, from my house, which has proven many times to be helpful in the case of missing a bus for my older daughter. This decision is completely against helping families that currently go to Davis Drive. Riding a bus 6 miles away will prove to waste more time in my child's day, when he could just take 2 minutes to get home from Davis Drive.

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Srini Ramani 28 days ago

My family lives in Arlington Ridge which is 1.5 miles from Davis Drive Middle School. Like many in this forum, we strongly object to the proposal to move our base middle school from Davis Drive Middle to Easy Cary Middle in 2019-2020.

The vast majority of our residents have chosen to live in this community for it’s close proximity to schools and our work places. When choosing to live in this community, we have deliberately factored in, often years in advance, the proximity of schools for our children, time available for their after-school enrichment activities and play time, and our work commutes. Moving the base school assignment for our community to one that is almost 4 times the distance destroys all these carefully laid out plans for our families and has caused us significant distress.

The proposed Middle school assignment plan for our community erodes all four pillars of WCPSS Policy. Reassigning current Davis Drive Middle communities to East Cary Middle, would degrade OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY by forcing families to rely on busing as the only practical mode of transportation to and from what is literally the other side of town. The resulting manyfold increase in transportation time will deprive our children of valuable time for after school activities, time with their families, and time to simply recharge. Not to mention the operational INEFFICIENCY this would cause to the school system by having to bus all these children that would otherwise would have simply walked or biked to school. This loss of time everyday would lead to a decrease in STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT. Many families in our community are deeply involved in their children’s schools. They volunteer as class parents and actively participate in the PTA. A school that is far from their homes, work places and commutes, will drastically cut their involvement in their schools, further eroding STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT, and ultimately the quality of the school itself.

Needless to say the proposed reassignment is in direct opposition to the PROXIMITY pillar. The communities being proposed to be moved from Davis Drive MS to East Cary MS are within 2 miles of their current base school assignment. They should stay in their current assignment in accordance with this important pillar.

The proposed plan disrupts STABILITY, by moving children during the already brief, but crucial middle school years. This too has caused tremendous anguish to parents who are worried sick at the thought of having their children endure massive disruptions.

We implore the student enrollment committee and the Board to take note of the overwhelming opposition to this proposal from the affected communities, as evidenced in this online feedback forum. We sincerely hope that the committee and the Board listens to our feedback and restores our existing base school assignment to Davis Drive MS in the second draft of the proposal.

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Srini Ramani 28 days ago

Looking at page 38 of the enrollment proposal at https://simbli.eboardsolutions.com/Meetings/Attachment.aspx?S=920&AID=141919&MID=4622 the proposal results in 78% utilization at DDMS with trailers in 2019-20 vs the current 76% utilization at East Cary MS. This results in a second under-utilized school at DDMS. Additionally, this comes at the cost of negatively impacting the other pillars (stability, proximity and student achievement).

Counter Proposal for the Board - 1) Do not reassign existing neighborhoods from DDMS to East Cary MS. Instead, accommodate future growth in western Wake county via long-term plans to build new schools in those high growth areas. This will avoid negatively impacting currently enrolled students, especially those in close proximity (within 2 miles) to DDMS.

2) Do not add neighborhoods in the western part of Wake County that are not fully developed yet to DDMS. These neighborhoods are better served by long-term planning that would in the future add new schools that are closer to those families.

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Betsy Hall 28 days ago

I have lived in my home in Stonegate/Sherborne since 2013 and in the neighborhood since 2010. Two of my children have attended Davis Drive Middle. Our neighborhood has always been districted to Davis Drive Middle which only makes sense because we are less than 1/2 a mile from the school. In fact, you can see the school from our neighborhood! It's right across the street for heaven's sakes.

The thought of our children, who now walk to school, being put on buses and bussed halfway across the county is simply ludicrous. This is our neighborhood school. We meet our neighbors walking to and from school and play on the fields there on the weekend. The teachers know our kids and their older siblings and all of our neighbors.

My only thought is that perhaps the redistricting plans were drawn without looking at a map because moving our neighborhood out of this school makes no sense otherwise. The cost of just the added bus routes should have made someone take a second look. Why on earth would the county choose to take walkers and put them on buses? What a colossal waste of money!

In addition, the disruption to our children's lives must be taken into account. To take them away from their neighbors and friends and put them on buses for an hour or two a day is disruptive and unnecessary. That is time that could be spent studying, doing homework and participating in sports or extracurricular activities rather than sitting on a bus for no reason at all.

Please take another look at these maps and see how illogical and cruel it would be to our families to move our kids from Davis Drive Middle. I hope you'll agree that the only logical choice for efficiency and stability would be to leave us where we are.

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Ragini Vaidya 28 days ago

We live in Sherborne neighborhood for more than 10 yrs. My elder daughter graduated from DDMS and is currently attending GHHS. I also have a 6th grader currently in DDMS, who is looking forward to graduating from DDMS like her sister. My daughter is able to walk to school in 10 minutes, which is both environmentally friendly, and a time saver. Going to ECMS by bus may take about an hour. This will affect her after school time for homework and extracurricular activities. We were assured by WCPSS that they believed in, and encouraged, a sense of community. We live just minutes from the Davis Drive schools and yet our children are being reassigned to a school in a different neighborhood. Overall, would it not be more logistically, environmentally, and economically sensible to go to the closer school? This new reassignment proposal truly makes no sense, and we would appreciate a reconsideration.

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Travis Scott 28 days ago

We strongly oppose the suggested changes for many of the reasons listed by others above. My family and others on Muir Woods Dr and beyond have enjoyed contributing to the community at DDMS over the years through athletics, extra-curricular and academics. Proximity has played a major role in supporting these efforts. There are ZERO benefits and tons of NEGATIVE impacts for District 9 families with this proposal. Question the motives. #wcpss-armslength

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Yusufi Nagdi 28 days ago

I am a resident of Preston Forest. My daughter has started middle school at DDMS this year. I am strongly opposed to the proposed assignment of Davis Drive students to East Cary for all of the reasons posted in this forum.

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Sadaf Nazir 28 days ago

We are very disappointed with this action. We bought our house last year in Providence Commons and Davis Drive Middle School was the only reason to pay the high premium. Reassigning Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle School will discourage parents from participating and investing in their children’s schools. Davis Drive Middle School is in walking distance, 1.2 miles from our neighborhood and East Cary Middle School is 6 miles away. This mean parents and children will both suffer. It will negatively affect on our children’s achievement. Our children’s future is our first priority and we will take stand for this. We all need to get together to oppose this action. We all want to stay with Davis Drive Middle School.

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Kasturi Talapatra 28 days ago

We are residents of Sherborne and strongly oppose the suggested changes. It is illogical and unjust for new neighborhoods to be assigned Davis Drive Middle school at the cost of established neighborhoods and residents for all the reasons mentioned above.

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Carl Lobkowikz 28 days ago

A lot of very good responses on this thread so far and I fully endorse all of those in protest regarding this irrational proposal. We live in Fenton Estates and it's inconceivable that children in our neighborhood could possibly be transported to a school six miles away when we live less than one mile from DDMS. This proposal is seriously flawed on many levels and the Wake County School Board needs to recognize that by taking the appropriate action.

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Carlos Pinel 28 days ago

We are residents of Sherbone and this proposal makes no sense whatsoever. This should not even be a discussion, it's ridiculous for all residents Sherborne/Stonegate neighborhood to even worry about it or spend precious time pushing back on an illogical proposal. We are less than a mile away from DDMS and ECMS if more than six (6) miles away. PROXIMITY, PROXIMITY and PROXIMITY. The are multiple new housing developments closer to ECMS that should be part of this instead of established neighborhoods.

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Jenny Zhou 28 days ago

We moved to Preston forest this summer, mainly because there is a bike distance from the expected middle school. I agree with all of the reasons posted in the form. We are very frustrated about this unfair proposal to our neighborhoods and to our kids. Please listen to all the voices.

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Shawn Jackson 28 days ago

Mr. Fletcher, we were told this forum is monitored by staff and board members. If so, would you please take the time to look at the policy from the 2015/2016 School Enrollment Proposal (Final Draft)? I’m sure most of the Board was in favor of the verbiage in the 2015/2016 final draft. If the BAC meeting tonight is to clarify the current proposal, would it be possible for you to expound on what I have tagged in asterisks with regard to Regulation/Policy Code 6200 as well as the two options I have outlined about student reassignment?

Regulation Code: 6200 R&P Student Assignment It is the intent of the Wake County Board of Education to promote a variety of educational program choices for students and families, and to: 1. Preserve the integrity of the instructional program at all schools. 2. Adhere to appropriate grade structures. 3. Achieve student diversity in all schools. 4. Utilize facilities as efficiently as practical. To meet these goals, it is sometimes necessary to reassign students and to implement assignment strategies that cause a disruption in assignment stability for students and families.

********It is the desire of the Board to implement assignment plans in a manner that cause the least disruption to students and families while meeting these goals.****************

Policy Code: 6200 Student Assignment The student assignment plan will be developed by balancing, to the extent reasonable, the goals and factors set forth below and will include target ranges, where appropriate, to accomplish these goals and factors: I removed bullet points A, B, and D due to space constraints-

****C. Proximity *Base school assignments will be within a reasonable distance of the student's home. Factors for consideration include: *1. Allowing students living within the immediate vicinity of a school, defined by the assignment plan, to attend that school; and ****2. Minimizing splitting of neighborhoods when developing base attendance areas.

Based on the overwhelming majority on this forum, our top priority as a community is to keep our neighborhoods zoned to DDMS. If the goal of the Board is to implement assignment plans that cause the least disruption to students and families, I would request that the Board come up with better proposals to address the issues our school system is facing. Has the Board considered the option of taking the section on the current zoning map that is near Varsity drive in Raleigh and re-zoning those areas to Centennial Campus Middle or Dillard Drive Middle? Instead of these students having a 20 -25 minute commute, they would have a 5-10 minute commute. This would allow these students/families with the opportunity to participate in afterschool and community involvement functions. Perhaps another option to consider is to allow the students currently zoned to ECMS, which live in neighborhoods directly across from ECMS, to continue at ECMS. There is absolutely no upside in moving these students under the proposed plan to Lufkin MS which is 7.5 miles away from their neighborhood school. Also there is absolutely no upside in moving our students 7 miles away to ECMS from our neighborhood school DDMS. If the board is truly interested in providing logical solutions which help promote family/student synergy in our communities, the Board should strongly consider reviewing all voices on this forum and reworking the current proposal.

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Deidra Grossi 28 days ago

We live in Providence Commons and we are strongly opposed to this change for all of the reasons already mentioned. These long-standing neighborhoods that you're moving out of Davis Drive are filled with families who purchased their homes, in large part, because of the proximity to and quality of Davis Drive. We've lived in these neighborhoods for years, developed a sense of community ... and this change is not fair to our kids. Not to mention, we all know that it will lower our property values. If you need to fill seats at East Cary, or make space at Davis Drive, there have been a lot of good, alternate suggestions made. Don't punish the families who have lived here, and already have financial and community investments in Davis Drive.

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Craig Douglass 28 days ago

We are in Stonegate/Sherborne neighborhood and can walk to Davis Drive Middle School in less than 5 minutes!! Why bus our kids clear across town? I understand that boundary lines need to be redrawn from time to time but why add children to the bus system when they can safely and easily walk or ride their bikes to school? I think that if lines need to be redrawn they should not be done in such a way that children who live within a half mile (or less in our case) are excluded from walking to their neighborhood school. It seems ludicrous to add to the already congested bus system especially after this recent article from WRAL on "Fuel leaks, bad tires, worn brakes: WRAL investigates NC school bus inspections". We would not "take a space" on the bus system if we were left in Davis Drive Middle School. But if this change goes through we, and our neighbors will unwillingly be forced to bus clear across town...... which again, really is ridiculous. https://www.wral.com/fuels-leaks-bad-tires-worn-brakes-wral-investigates-nc-school-bus-inspections/17790347/

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Jessica Banik 28 days ago

We live in Sherborne neighborhood, i strongly disagree to move our community from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary Middle. From my home to DDM, the walking distance is 0.6 mile versus 6 miles to the ECM. I believe school needs all the community support and parent involvement, if we are made to move to the other side of the town which means this will add tons of extra travelling time for families and obviously are not eco wise and time consideration, therefore will lead less family involvement and support. Another thing, I think Proximity is the key of the base school criteria, if we can't follow this, why bother to have a base school?

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Deborah Seehorn 28 days ago

We are residents of the Muir Woods subdivision. We also strongly oppose the reassignment of DDMS students to ECMS for many of the same reasons that others have posted in this forum.

I do not think that it is in the best interest of our students who live within 2 miles of DDMS to be bused 6 miles away to ECMS. This does not make economic sense and further burdens the WCPSS's transportation system.

Please keep Muir Woods and our neighboring subdivisions assigned to DDMS.

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Meghan Hammes 28 days ago

I stand with my fellow neighbors of Preston Forest and the surrounding neighborhoods that are close in proximity to Davis Drive MS but are proposed to go to East Cary MS. Many families have relocated themselves to our neighborhoods (and have made sacrifices to do so) in order to send their children to Davis Drive MS. Following through with this proposal would be the ultimate bait-and-switch for so many people who are very involved in their children's school and for these students.

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Thomas Hudspeth 27 days ago

I live in Providence Commons, near the Cary Parkway/Waldo Rood intersection. It is within 1 mile from our house, compared to 7 miles to ECMS! The established neighborhoods should be given priority to the school assignments, based on proximity, strong communities, and continuity for our kids. I strongly oppose the proposed reassignment from DDMS to ECMS.

Also, I am still serving in the US Army. My service causes me to be away and my wife to have to manage all 3 of our kids in my absence. Giving her 400% more distance to travel does NOT make my family any safer and causes more concern while I am overseas serving in far away places. PLEASE consider the safety of all families when considering these very strange district boundaries.

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Ziyu Jin 27 days ago

We live in Providence Commons and we strongly oppose the reassignment of DDMS students to ECMS. It is a terrible idea for breaking up the kids' social circles that were established for years. My kids can bike to school and now, if this plan is implemented, will have to fight the traffic across the town, adding at least one hour of commute time for each school day! Further more, from today's hearing I learned that the super majority of the families whose kids in ECMS are very upset too because they have to switch to traditional calendar from year round in order to accommodate this new assignment! From all the angle this is a mistake and needs to be fixed by the school board in the next round of proposal!

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George Deeb 27 days ago

To the County and School Board:

Thanks for the information session at Adams last night. Hopefully, you heard the passion in the room, and will make the appropriate adjustments in Draft 2 of the district school map. Here is my take on the situation coming out of that meeting.

WHY PEOPLE ARE SO PASSIONATE ON THIS TOPIC

• PEOPLE WANT STABILITY OF NEARBY SCHOOLS. I think what the Cary community is telling you is they place a really high value on attending the nearby schools which they are already invested. The strategy of rebalancing schools in Cary is less important to the parents than it is to the district. So, strategies that may work in Raleigh, may not work as well in Cary, where people want the stability and comfort of relying on their established neighborhoods to behave “business as usual”. Yes, Davis Drive is overcrowded, but the parents don’t seem to care, as they want to stay there. And, obviously, people much prefer the closer proximity (0-2 miles vs. 6-8 miles in this case), to facilitate easier commutes, higher school involvement and less need to ride the busses.

• FEAR OF LESSER QUALITY EXPERIENCE. The Davis Drive families moved to this district because they place a really high value on the nationally-accredited Davis Drive school ratings and reputation. In comparison, East Cary only gets a 6/10 rating on Great Schools vs. a 9/10 for Davis Drive. Based on the comments in the meeting, the parents of East Cary are not happy with the school leadership (which you should survey to confirm that contradiction to your presentation). And, East Cary offers far less student clubs, teams and electives as compared to Davis Drive (e.g., if my kid plays violin, there is no orchestra as an example). That doesn’t even talk about the earlier bus pick up times, later bus drop off times or aging school facility that needs upgrading. Not enough thought has gone into communicating to Davis Drive parents that the proposed changes will quell these concerns or solve these problems (at least not fast enough while their kids are in school).

• THE STRESS THIS CHANGE WILL RESULT IN. Like us, many would have multiple middle school aged kids in two different schools as the current grandfather rules are written. My 8th grader would be in Davis Drive (under grandfather rules) and my 6th grader (who could start at Davis Drive under grandfather rules), would have to be ripped out to East Cary for 7th and 8th grades, which is not creating stability for him. And, how do I pick up two kids in two different places at the same time, if needed?

• FEAR OF IMPACT ON REAL ESTATE VALUES. There was a study above that estimated up to a 20% negative impact to home values for the Davis Drive families after moving to East Cary. For the families in Preston Forest that could be well north of $100,000 issue!! Many families are already talking about collective legal options, to prevent this change from happening.

I know the district and board may not care about some of the above issues, but it is important you understand the root psychology here.

WHY THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT MEET YOUR FOUR PILLAR GOALS

Let’s focus on the four pillars you do care about and why this move does not accomplish your objectives.

• PROXIMITY. You are asking the Davis Drive families to commute 6-8 miles instead of 0-2 miles. And, you are splitting neighborhoods. Preston Forest is part of the Preston Community Association, and at a minimum, should be treated the same as our sister Preston neighborhoods (e.g., Preston Village staying in Davis Drive, or worst case Preston feeding to West Cary).

• OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES. This move will convert walkers and bikers into bussers, adding strain to the bussing system. The commute times will be materially longer, across roads that are already over-trafficked during rush hour. And, earlier bus pickup times will require young kids to be up by an unreasonable 5:45am (assuming the 7:30 am start time stays the same) and later drop off times will eat into homework time, making it a really long day for the kids.

I can cite many ways that I believe the third and fourth pillars of Stability and Student Achievement will be negatively impacted. But, not in the same way you are currently defining them. As you define them, yes, you are accomplishing your goals for East Cary, but the pillars don’t speak to the negative impact of hitting those goals will have on the Davis Drive families, which we feel is material.

OTHER DATAPOINTS TO CONSIDER

Here are a few other data points that may impact your decision here:

• FENTON WILL FILL EAST CARY. The new Fenton development near East Cary is going to add 800 new homes across the street. What is going to happen then? Are you going to move the Preston Forest families back to Davis Drive? Your under-capacity problem in East Cary is going to naturally resolves itself with new Apple or other corporate families moving to town and the new developments on the east side of Cary.

• DON’T ASSUME DAVIS DRIVE FAMILIES WILL MOVE TO EAST CARY. This is such a hot topic for the Davis Drive families that we are all considering our options (e.g., private schools, magnet schools, year round schools). So, at the end of the day, you may still have the same under capacity issues at East Cary.

• YOU OVER-CORRECTED DAVIS DRIVE. With the opening of nearby Alston Ridge and the other remapping actions taken, you took a 105% capacity school (including trailers) down to 78%. There was really no need to take it that far, especially for an uncapped school. And, that doesn’t even speak to class sizes in the area are falling (e.g., the Green Hope senior class of 800 vs. the freshman class of 600, before any reduction that will happen after opening Green Level).

• THE EAST CARY FAMILIES DON’T WANT THIS CHANGE EITHER. The East Cary families want the year-round option to remain, that is why they moved there as the only year-round option in Cary. And, they want to stay in a school that is in close proximity to them, just like us. You are playing musical chairs with the families of these two schools and not making either of them happy.

OTHER SOLUTIONS TO CONSIDER

• DON’T PUT NEW DEVELOPMENTS INTO DAVIS DRIVE. Right now there are several new developments that are moving into Davis Drive, at the expense of the established neighborhoods, who frankly have helped invest in and build that school given the county budgets don’t provide enough capital to meet the full needs of the schools. Developments like Mills Park or the new ones near Publix and west of 55 should get moved to other schools, and keep the Preston Forest and surrounding communities where they are. That is capacity neutral to Davis Drive. Alston Ridge has plenty of capacity to pick up those families. And, Fenton will solve the East Cary problem in the coming years.

• CHANGE THE GRANDFATHER RULES. Let the Davis Drive families stay where they are by changing the grandfather rules. That lets current families get the schools they were hoping for, and only impacts new families moving into the district. And, it solves your capacity and remapping needs long term. Nothing says it needs to change overnight. Then, by time families are ready to sell their homes, East Cary’s reputation and experience has been improved, hopefully equal to Davis Drive, and then, hopefully there is no real estate impact.

• CHANGE DAVIS DRIVE TO YEAR ROUND. You can materially expand the capacity of Davis Drive and ease overcrowding by converting Davis Drive to year round. I personally prefer the traditional calendar. But, if it means we get to keep our Davis Drive experience, I would gladly take that as an option.

• IF NO OPTION TO STAY AT DAVIS DRIVE, MOVE PRESTON FOREST TO WEST CARY. We all prefer to stay in Davis Drive with our Preston Village peers, but if Preston Forest needs to move, keep us with our other Preston community peers (the ones north of High House Road) at closer by West Cary (4 miles away, instead of East Cary at 6 miles away). That may calm a lot of the concerns about East Cary, quell the real estate value concerns, and get families in closer proximity to the school.

Here’s to getting these issues fixed in Draft 2, to save a lot of unnecessary heartache for all involved. Keep Preston Forest and the surround communities in Davis Drive!!

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Marybeth Boyd 27 days ago

WCPSS Representatives- I was just doing a little research about the new construction neighborhoods in our area. PLEASE explain to me how Muirfield, a new neighborhood on High House & Davis, next to the Publix shopping center, is proposed to go to Davis Drive Middle?!?! ALL of the surrounding ESTABLISHED neighborhoods either go to West Cary Middle or are now being proposed to move to East Cary Middle, but the Muirfield neighborhood is going to be excluded from our node and go to DDMS?! PLEASE, PLEASE explain this to us! Here is an address so you can all see for yourselves.

$659,900 513 Crinian Drive Unit MF Lot #20 Cary, NC 27513

WCPSS- THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!

DRAFT 1 2019-20 ENROLLMENT PROPOSAL VALID FOR ADDRESS - 513 Crinian Dr Cary 27513

2019-20 BASE ASSIGNMENT
Base Elementary School GREEN HOPE ES (Trad) (details)

Neighborhood Busing With neighborhood busing, students may walk to a stop centrally located within the neighborhood. The bus travels to a number of neighborhood stops and then delivers students to their school. In the afternoon, students are returned to the neighborhood stop to make their way home. Magnet students who receive neighborhood busing can experience ride times longer than an hour. You can view current bus routes online to estimate the length of the bus route.

Base Middle School DAVIS DR MS (Trad) (details)

Neighborhood Busing With neighborhood busing, students may walk to a stop centrally located within the neighborhood. The bus travels to a number of neighborhood stops and then delivers students to their school. In the afternoon, students are returned to the neighborhood stop to make their way home. Magnet students who receive neighborhood busing can experience ride times longer than an hour. You can view current bus routes online to estimate the length of the bus route.

Base High School GREEN HOPE HS (Trad) (details)

Neighborhood Busing With neighborhood busing, students may walk to a stop centrally located within the neighborhood. The bus travels to a number of neighborhood stops and then delivers students to their school. In the afternoon, students are returned to the neighborhood stop to make their way home. Magnet students who receive neighborhood busing can experience ride times longer than an hour. You can view current bus routes online to estimate the length of the bus route.

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Aimee Bryce 27 days ago

Mr. Fletcher,

At last night's meeting, you made a comment about how neighborhoods on the east side of Davis Drive were the ones who were going to be impacted by the re-assignment to East Cary Middle School.

As you can see based on the below address:

13 Crinian Drive Unit MF Lot #20 Cary, NC 27513

this new construction is also on the east side of Davis Drive but also on the north side of High House. This side of High House has always been assigned to West Cary Middle School. How is it that this new construction surrounded by established neighborhoods is being assigned to Davis Drive Middle School? Please explain. You have asked us all for specific suggestions on how our node can stay at Davis Drive Middle School. One suggestion is assign all new construction to East Cary Middle School.

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Ekaterina Goreva 27 days ago

Hi. We are residents of Providence Commons neighborhood. Moving from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary is an EVIDENTLY BAD for us, I absolutely agree with the arguments above: - ECM is far from us - We selected the neighborhood specifically for the assignment to good schools - This change will make our homes cost less Mandatory reassignment of schools should not take place, we need the option to stay in DDM.

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Hello WCPSS, We are residents of Fenton Estates neighbourhood, across the street from Davis Drive Middle school, and my kid walks and bicycles to Davis Drive schools (elementary in the past and middle from this year). This decision to move Fenton Estates (and Preston communities) away from Davis Drive Middle to East Cary middle school is going to put us in a very unfair situation. Moving our kids from a middle school just across the street less than a quarter mile to a middle school over 6 miles away. This is kind of uprooting my kid and family, and breaking away the community of friendships we formed at these Davis Drive schools from past few years. Please kindly keep the communities south of high house and west of Cary Parkway included for the Davis Drive Middle school assignment.

To be able to help fill East Cary, we suggest to assign all new constructions and communities to East Cary middle.Also, please consider changing it to year round, if Davis Drive middle school has more kids.

We from Fenton Estates request to keep assignment to Davis Drive Middle school, and do not accept this reorganization to move middle school that is across the street to another middle school 6 miles away. Regards, Ranga

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Ngoc Hulbig 27 days ago

We understand that key goals of the student assignment proposal are to relieve the pressure at crowded and overcrowded schools and fill the seats at underutilized schools while also streamlining transportation and increasing operational efficiency. Draft 1 proposes to shift students in growing western Cary east to ECMS, helping to achieve the goal of relieving pressure on DDMS (decreasing from 105% to 78% with trailers, making DDMS underutilized in 2019-20) while filling seats at ECMS (increasing from 76% to 87% for 2019-20). Theoretically, this may make sense on paper, but the practical consequences are devastating, particularly when you push out families from well-established neighborhoods within walking/biking distance in favor of preparing for new growth in areas of Cary further from the school. As detailed by parents on this forum, this proposal negatively impacts our community, the schools and, most importantly, the children. (Not to mention the many ECMS families that want to stay year-round at their neighborhood school.)

At the meeting, Mr. Fletcher asked us how we would propose to draw the lines and still achieve the goals of relieving crowding and filling ECMS.

Proposed Solutions

  1. There are neighborhoods currently zoned for Mills Park that are proposed to be rezoned to DDMS, presumably to relieve crowding at Mills Park. Crowding already will be relieved with the reassignment of a large portion of Mills Park to Alston Ridge. Leave this node that is west of NC55 with Mills Park. There are many reasons not to push out our neighborhoods in favor of these newer developments, but I won't rehash them.

  2. Please see attached map. Assuming that this Mills Park node must be rezoned for DDMS, then we propose that you reassign the DDMS students in Raleigh to ECMS. The Raleigh node is larger than the Cary node of DDMS that you are proposing to reassign. The Raleigh node is closer to ECMS and much, much further from DDMS (DDMS is twice the distance from this Raleigh node than ECMS!). If you leave our Cary node at DDMS and rezone the Raleigh node to ECMS, then you accomplish all of your stated objectives: (1) you relieve crowding at Mills Park; (2) you relieve crowding at DDMS; and (3) you fill seats at ECMS--and you can do all of this while streamlining transportation and also not just paying lip service to the Proximity pillar. You can let well-established neighborhoods within 2 miles of the DDMS stay with DDMS, and you can increase proximity of the Raleigh node students to their base school by 50%. This proposed solution would avoid all of the negative consequences detailed on this forum and also would increase operational efficiency of the schools, the bus system, and traffic in Cary in general.

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Tim Riley 26 days ago

To clarify on point #1 above, as far as I know the only neighborhoods being re-assigned from Mills Park to DDMS are Ashley Woods (established neighborhood built in the 90's), and a very small neighborhood off of Green Level West (also an older neighborhood).

That being said, as a homeowner in Ashley Woods, I would much prefer that we stay on the Highcroft/Mills Park/Green Level feed, rather than GHES/DDMS/Green Level. As the proposed plan stands now, our kids will be removed from their current elementary and middle schools. Once they finish at DDMS, they will be moved to back to Green Level High, while the rest of their middle school peers go off to Green Hope High. This is essentially a double re-assignment, similar to the DDES/DDMS students who will be reassigned to East Cary, and then come back to Green Hope for high school.

I agree that it doesn't make sense to pull established neighborhoods out of DDMS and then fill that gap with other established neighborhoods from west of 55. Here's an opportunity to make two nodes happy.

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Christa Townley 26 days ago

As an Ashley Woods resident , I couldn't have said this better myself. Thank you Tim for your comments above.

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Brandon Bryce 27 days ago

Thank you to the County, Mr. Bill Fletcher and Glenn Carrozza for the information session last night. My family appreciates your time and thorough consideration of the concerns expressed by Stonegate/Sherborne regarding the draft one proposal and its impact on our children attending DDMS. To continue the discussion in this forum, I wanted to share a recommendation that I hope you will place atop the list for solutions to overcrowding and projected growth in West Cary: SATELLITE SCHOOL ZONING FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN WEST CARY UNTIL NEW SCHOOLS ARE BUILT IN THAT REGION Satellite zoning allows everyone to put the boundary pencils down for a moment and simply look at the map in a different manner. Satellite zoning squarely places the impact of growth in West Cary where it belongs (on the developers and homeowners in new and undeveloped neighborhoods) and removes the burden from existing students at impacted schools. While not favorable by developers – this is a viable path forward. Satellite zoning in West Cary affords WCPSS a DYNAMIC strategy to directly fill seats in schools where they are needed most. This approach is inherently nimble, ensures targeted and efficient resource allocations for students, teachers and transportation demands across the district - it also ensures that neighborhoods (both new and existing) stay together. According to the WCPSS development schedule, new schools are slated for West Cary. When these schools are built in the 2024-25 time frame, the satellite school neighborhoods will be uniquely positioned to benefit from the proximity, stability and operational efficiency that WCPSS promises its students, families and taxpayers. When asked the question last night about a possible conflict of interest, Mr. Bill Fletcher assured the hundreds in attendance that WCPSS, its board and the office of student assignment are unrelated and not impacted by the influence(s) of residential developers, realtors and real estate happenings across Wake County. So with that in mind, satellite zoning has to be a logical consideration when revisiting draft two for student assignments. This approach unequivocally puts the “best interests” of students first, aligns squarely with your four pillar platform and removes the painful disruption of moving children to different schools. Please help Stonegate/Sherborne keep our children at DDMS. Thank you, Brandon Bryce

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Shawn Jackson 27 days ago

Good afternoon Matt. Can you tell me if the 2017-2018 Facilities Utilization tables have been published for public review?

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Matt Dees admin 27 days ago

Hi Shawn. Looks like the utilization tables for 2017-18 haven't been published yet but 2016-17 can be found here. https://www.wcpss.net/Domain/100 You can find demographic data for 2017-18 on this page, including number of students per grade at each school, if that is at all helpful.

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From Fenton Estates neighbourhood, we are suggesting to re-assign the current Raleigh area piece to its closest middle school (may be East Cary Middle or Martin Middle schools), and keep the east of Davis Drive area as is in current year. Agree with the picture proposal by Mr.Ngoc Hulbig above, and his proposal 2 seems good. Not sure why Raleigh kids should continue to travel over 7 miles to Davis Drive Middle school, while kids a quarter mile away are being proposed to be reassigned to travel over 6 miles to East Cary Middle.

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Ngoc Hulbig 27 days ago

I am a Mrs.! In any event, Raleigh students appear to be traveling more like 13-15 miles to DDMS.

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Nicole Brooks 27 days ago

I support the idea of making Davis Drive year round to accommodate more students!

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Angie Henderson 27 days ago

Thank you for your time and patience at the Adams Elementary meeting. Based on the meeting and comments I read in the feedback forum, I have the following suggestions.

Since western Wake county continues to grow faster than schools can be built, adding more year round schools to ease overcrowding may be appropriate. (Based on the comments from Alston Ridge middle, most comments are positive for proximity over calendar option.) Consider switching Mills Park and DDMS to year round.

Is making ECMS a magnet school an option to draw more students. Perhaps a true STEM magnet. (Many parents seem to like the school and the year round calendar, especially as its feeder is Adams)

Running 3 tracks at ECMS and/or expanding the base attendance. Please consider allowing rising 7th graders moving from existing school to existing school to also grandfather without transportation. (This was the rule last year and would only add maximum 1 year delay for crowding relief. It would also ease a lot of anxiety for those short but tumultuous middle school years.)

Consider West Cary and Salem as an alternative to East Cary for DDMS students. Both schools are within 3.5 miles of addresses rather than 6.5 miles.

Lastly, my neighborhood (Sherborne/Stonegate) is aging. Most of our youngest children are now in middle school and high school. In 2-3 years our neighborhood will naturally reduce school attendance. Consider capping DDMS to allow students who started this year to finish. (More kids today are dealing with anxiety and my child is no different. The transition from DDE to DDMS has been difficult and I don’t feel that moving her again would be of benefit. Especially for such a short time.

Sincerely, Angie Henderson

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Julie Hudspeth 27 days ago

I do ask you to keep neighborhoods within 2 miles at DDMS. I personally am willing to forgo use of the bus to MS, given that our house is in such close proximity, to help improve operational efficiency and wonder if that can be the necessary compromise. I would also support DDMS going to a year round calendar to accommodate more students. Currently, my second grader is at Weatherstone Elementary (2.3 miles from our house) - she's been waiting some days an hour after dismissal for the bus to even arrive at her school. It terrifies me to think what it would do to our family stability if she is bused to ECMS (5.6 miles away). My husband is in the army and deployment is probable - having to manage the difficult distance added to the hardships of military life is an unbearable thought. I love being involved - but, as you can imagine, having multiple and younger children would make my presence at ECMS very minimal and a strain on our family. I recently started a flexible, work from home job, and I look forward to being room mom for both of my daughters at Weatherstone Elementary. DDMS is even closer to us! Please give our plea due consideration to keep Providence Commons and surrounding neighborhoods at DDMS.

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David Henderson 27 days ago

Magnet programs have been used to draw students to less attractive schools. Has the district looked into using magnet programs to attract students to less attractive schedules, such as year-round calendar schools? With the inability to keep up with growth, maximizing use of existing schools is crucial. Keeping existing year-round programs in place (such as at East Cary MS) and creating new year-round programs will allow higher capacities of schools. Magnet programs in the year-round calendar may draw additional students in. I believe this is something that should at least be studied.

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ARATI KIRTIKAR 26 days ago

Why is the newly built Bradford Square apartments, a highly dense apartment complex in the Publix Plaza being assigned to Davis Drive Middle School in the proposal? This is at the expense of established neioghborhoods Like Preston Forest, Arlington Ridge, Sherborne, Arlington Ridge and so many more that are closer to DDMS. Dear WCPSS, this smacks of discrimination against the existing neighborhoods and giving incentives to builders and property management companies at the expense of the existing neighborhoods. Please assign this new neighborhood and the ones on HIgh House Drive and Davis Drive to East Cary. The Apartment itself will take quite a load off transportation since it is so dense and there will only need to be a couple of stops. All your four pillars of education will be violated if this injustice is allowed to continue.

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Brandon Bryce 26 days ago

Sorry for posting this message a second time, but wanted to clarify the message... Mr. Bill Fletcher and Glenn Carrozza,

As you can clearly see above, all impacted families (DDMS to ECMS) are offering suggestions to help create alternative solutions for the map boundary to ensure our children are not rezoned as part of this proposal...and we will continue doing so in a productive fashion.

During Glenn's presentation and Q&As, he said that he could NOT recall the specific number of ECMS students "gained" by rezoning DDMS students BUT he told us the information was available and that we could get that number. The number of ECMS students "gained" with this specific rezoning component is a VITAL piece of information that will help and guide our recommendations to your team.

Please get back to me/us (on this forum ASAP). The student numbers have to be at arms length, and it would help us greatly as we head into the extended holiday weekend and continue our neighborhood meetings to generate ideas and alternative solutions.

Thank you! Brandon Bryce

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Tara Mylenski Arhab 22 days ago

Hi Brandon - just curious, did you ever receive the numbers? I'd be happy to collaborate with anyone to analyze the numbers and propose alternate solutions as Mr Fletcher recommended during the town hall. Thank you!

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Brandon Bryce 22 days ago

Unfortunately not! Several folks have asked but nothing has come across.

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ARATI KIRTIKAR 26 days ago

Also, Bradford Square apartments used to be West Cary. Your rationale for moving our neighborhoods to East Cary MS has been moving neighborhoods west to east. This is an example of a move from East to West and goes against your stated objective. Please dont apply this goal selectively to only certain neighborhoods as it will be discriminatory and give rise to expensive litigation- lets spend the money on our kids instead!

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ARATI KIRTIKAR 26 days ago

@ Matt Dees: What multiplier does WCPSS use to figure out the number of kids/ potential school impact for a new subdivision? For example, in a 100 unit new neighborhood, what is the projected impact for elementary, middle and high schools? Thank you!

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Rita Welsh 25 days ago

I understand there are probably many challenges in creating a school assignment plan that would make all families happy and satisfied. However, moving established neighborhoods to offset the need to fill another school many miles away is not fair to those community neighborhoods. Many families choose where they would like to live based on the schools nearby their homes. My first child went to a school about 3 miles away from our house for five years and it never felt like home to me. Then given the choice to go to another school less than a mile from our house we took it and the moment I walked into the school it felt like home. I volunteer as an Odyssey of the Mind co-coordinator and have done so for six years which is a benefit you have when you have stability at the school your child attends. I also enjoy the sense of community between the elementary school and the middle school being right next door to each other. Teachers from the middle school have children attending the elementary school and the elementary school teachers have children attending the middle school. Both teachers and parents have a vested interest in the schools their children currently attend. Requiring some of the neighborhoods in close proximity to DDMS to go to ECMS would break that sense of community and that feeling like home to me and my family. Please consider keeping families and communities together when drafting school proposals.
My suggestions to help increase enrollment at ECMS would be to widen the base school area on the map. For schools that are over crowded consider adding modular units like those at Green Hope High School. Consider highlighting the benefits of going to a year round calendar especially in schools where crowding is a problem. Let the parents know what the teacher to student ratio is? Also, what tracks are currently offered at year round schools? And like how being tracked out during October and January would be a great time to vacation!

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Olga Hogrefe 23 days ago

I would like to get attention of all Schoolboard members (and Mr. Fletcher specifically) as well as of the County Superintendent Ms. Cathy Moore to how many people are participating in this discussion. This topic is one of the most posted on. This means that parents are very concerned about this preliminary proposal.

Many people already explained how the “Four Pillars” (Student Achievement, Stability, Proximity and even Operational Efficiency) will be affected negatively if this reassignment takes place, and gave alternative suggestions to the Board how the operational efficiency can be increased without knocking down the other three pillars.

On your website you mention that “often decisions become a trade-off between two pillars”. What you are planning for us is knocking down three pillars (Student Achievement, Stability, Proximity) to potentially improve operational efficiency. The latter one is doubtful too since even Mr. Carrozza, a senior director of student assignment, when asked at the last meeting, could not recall the number of students that ECMS will gain after rezoning our neighborhoods away from DDMS. It did not sound like that number was crucial for boosting up the operational efficiency of ECMS.

I will speak for my family, but I am sure that many parents agree with me. We know what is best for our child. This includes not disrupting his life and academic plans, as well as the life of his family. Adding unnecessary commute time, taking away at least an hour and a half of his sleep time, imposing additional stress of going to a far away school in an unfamiliar community (as if transitioning from an elementary to a middle school is not stressful enough already), affecting his extracurricular activities, reducing opportunities to participate in study groups during off-school hours, the list can go on and on.

What we want is aligned with the WCPSS vision (the first part of it) “The Wake County Public School System students will be prepared to reach their full potential…”. Please see children behind percentages and colorful maps. We are hoping that the Board will revise their plans and do what is best for the children of Providence Commons and other neighborhoods within 2 miles of DDMS – keep as assigned to DDMS.

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Olga Hogrefe 23 days ago

Also I know that there are more concerned parents than posts on this forum. If you are just "lurking" and silently agreeing with what other people are saying please consider posting a line or two. We were told at the meeting last Tuesday that all the posts are read and our voice is heard (I certainly hope that this is true).

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Mr SA 23 days ago

We live in MacArthur Park and from our house to DDMS is 0.9 miles, door to door. If we use our back gate it is even less. We have walked our kids to school (DDE and DDMS) almost daily as we find it quicker than waiting for the bus and healthier all around.

What will make our neighborhood even more suited to go to DDMS is the new greenway that connects our neighborhood to Davis Drive and goes UNDER the train tracks (which will be open in a year).. Those house that are now 1.5 miles away from the school will be 1/2 a mile away. Tell me the logic in not having those children in MacArthur Park attend DDMS? It makes no sense at all.

Please keep MacArhtur Park at DDMS (and DDE). There are neighborhoods substantially further away than we are (and newer) that haven't built the relationship to the schools like we have.

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Christian Hogrefe 23 days ago

I am also strongly opposed to the proposed assignment of Davis Drive students to East Cary for all of the reasons posted in this forum.

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Katie Shumake 23 days ago

Another proposal is that I noticed that some neighborhoods (for example, 101 Mereworth Place in Cary 27513 - currently for sale: https://www.redfin.com/NC/Cary/101-Mereworth-Pl-27513/home/41342787) are assigned to Salem Middle School, a year-round school, but its proposed application calendar school is Davis Drive Middle School. In order to keep all neighborhoods within a 2-mile radius of DDMS at DDMS, how about eliminating DDMS as an application calendar school for neighborhoods assigned to year-round schools.

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Jeannine Herrick 22 days ago

Please keep Fenton Estates assigned to DDMS, our neighborhood school. I think a lot of thought, care and consideration went into most of the proposed redistricting plan. At the Wake County School Board sponsored information session last Wed I understood the rationale for much of the proposed changes. I noticed though that when the presentation shifted to the proposed changes for East Cary Middle School and Davis Drive Middle School there were several contradictions. I heard the phrase “maximize transportation efficiencies” as rationale behind many changes but the changes for these two schools actually do the opposite. There would be extensive bussing from the existing DDMS neighborhoods to ECMS (6 miles in significant traffic) and many current families at ECMS prefer the year-round calendar and would be bussed 11 miles away to keep that calendar option. Additionally, other existing ECMS families would be reassigned to Apex! MANY families would choose to transport their own children using carpool which would also further burden already congested areas of Cary during peak travel times. I heard the phrase “efforts to get families on the same schedules” as rationale behind many of the changes but the proposed plans would actually do the opposite for ECMS and DDMS. ECMS families would like to keep on a year-round schedule and by changing it to traditional calendar creates a situation where families would likely not be on the same schedule. Similarly, many of the existing DDMS families would opt for their year-round option rather than have to travel across town and families with children in multiple schools would be on different calendars. I heard the phrase “trying to think through after school challenges by partnering with the YMCA” as reasoning why these changes would work for families. I heard an ECMS parent raise the concern that her current middle schooler can walk home and be independent until she arrives home from work. After school care would be a financial burden for her. While it’s appreciated that after school care is a consideration it needs to be understood in the context of what after school solutions in existing assignments would have to be forsaken. Middle school students are often learning how to be independent at home, might have a neighborhood job letting a pet out or have chores like prepping dinner to help their whole families function well. After school care might not be the best option for these families. I heard the phrase “ECMS is under capacity and it must be brought up to full capacity.” I think a lot of families were very confused to hear that ECMS is below capacity but yet the primary elementary feeder would no longer feed in the same way under the proposed changes. At least that is what I heard Adams Elementary parents saying at the information session. Again, families invested in ECMS as a year-round school were clear that they needed to prioritize the year-round calendar and do not want to leave ECMS, close to their homes. If the board wants to increase ECMS’s capacity and improve the school overall why essentially chase out the families that are invested in the current school? An ECMS parent asked “Why send ECMS students 11 miles away to stay on year-round and then pull kids from DDMS to fill them, that don’t want to be here.” The answers provided by the school board reps were not sufficient. The proposed plan needs further examination and new ideas brought forward. At the meeting it was also clear that many of the highly respected teachers would likely leave ECMS if it was changed to traditional calendar as they need to accommodate their own children’s school calendars. These changes would essentially destabilize a school by changing the calendar. Finally, under the proposed redistricting plan, neighborhoods directly across the street from ECMS would be reassigned to Luftkin Rd completely across town in Apex, further dismantling its base of students and increasing transportation burdens. I heard that “DDMS is overcrowded and that needs to be alleviated.” A significant portion of DDMS students are from the Carpenter Village neighborhood and they would be reassigned to Alston Ridge Middle School. It was clear at the information meeting that the school board didn’t really know the numbers of how much this would alleviate crowding at DDMS. For all the families within walking and biking distance to DDMS - the board member reps were unclear as to what the number of proposed displaced students this would affect in an effort to reduce overcrowding. What is puzzling is that there are neighborhoods being added to DDMS including apartments and homes on either side of High House east of Davis Drive, yet the homes that are even closer to DDMS on that same side of the street are proposed to being redistricted. Existing neighborhoods across 55 are being added to DDMS as is new construction off both sides of High House between Davis and 55 as well as a new neighborhood on Davis Drive past the Park Village subdivision. In the question and answer period I learned that the school board used Davis Drive itself as a boundary for the proposed redistricting plan citing that the intersection of Waldo Rood and Davis Drive is unsafe for students to cross. The Town of Cary supplies a crossing-guard and there are plans underway to create a tunnel under Davis Drive connecting the greenway directly adjacent to the school. In the after session, Bill Fletcher spoke of the unsafe issue of the Davis Drive/Waldo Rood intersection for students who opt to walk or bike but yet many of the same neighborhoods being reassigned for DDMS are keeping the elementary feeder DDES- that cross the same intersection. As mentioned above it seemed like much of the overall redistricting plan was centered on common sense, a commitment to increasing proximity to schools and reducing transportation burdens. It seems that for the section of DDMS current assignments between close to Davis Drive, a different set of decision making criteria was used.
In Bill Fletcher’s 2016 campaign announcement he says that “he wants high performing schools close to every home and family in Wake.” For DDMS students between east of Davis Drive, the draft reassignment plan does the opposite… preserving assignments for existing neighborhoods and adding new ones that are not as close to the actual school and reassigns neighborhoods that are less than a mile from the school. While intentions are likely altruistic and in the best interests of all students, this proposed reassignment does the exact opposite for our family, our neighbors and the community that loves its middle school. I ask that our district rep Mr. Fletcher and the other school board members truly consider investing in neighborhood schools. Working parents choose neighborhoods that are conducive to both school and work and the effects of this draft plan would be catastrophic for my family with three students in three schools. As a working mother, my middle schooler would be well over an hour from my place of employment if this reassignment were to take place. This component of the reassignment plan is very burdensome for working parents at both schools. I implore the school board to reconsider their proposed reassignment of students that live within walking/biking distance to DDMS, including east of Davis Drive.

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Ebony Madden 22 days ago

I am a resident of Muir Woods and am strongly opposed to the proposed reassignment from Davis Drive Middle School to East Carry Middle for all of the reasons posted above.

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Martin Shalhoub 22 days ago

As a proud parent of two children that are nearing attendance of middle school, I am highly concerned about the latest proposal and the negative impacts to my children’s well being. I have trust that the school board has seen and heard the concerns of effected parents but more importantly the solutions...the solutions we look forward to being drafted in the next couple of proposals. Thank you.

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Tara Mylenski Arhab 22 days ago

I am a resident of Providence Commons and strongly oppose the proposed reassignment from Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle School. My children were adopted from another country about 4 years ago. It has taken much time, and a lot of hard work from teachers, neighbors, friends, etc. for them to feel comfortable and rooted. The administration and counselors at David Dr Middle have been phenomenal in aiding this effort, and moving schools after so much trust has been built is guaranteed to be a major setback and result in a subsequent decrease in academic achievement. Along with this, we live much closer to Davis Dr. than we do from East Cary. This additional travel time stress will undoubtedly further affect their sense of stability and reduce the time they can spend on homework, participating in activities, building friendships, etc. Based on these factors, I propose that the current plan negatively impacts three of the four pillars: stability, student achievement and proximity. I therefore, ask you to reconsider your current proposal as it seemingly only considers one pillar: operational efficiency. I understand that other schools need to be filled, but as the charter states, no one pillar should outweigh any other. All that being said, we did attend last weeks in-person session at Adams Elementary and truly thank you for your time. We were all invited by Mr. Fletcher to propose alternate solutions. I would very much like to do so, but cannot seem to find the numbers needed for this (i.e. proposed population of each neighborhood to be redistricted). If someone would kindly allow access to these numbers, I would be happy to present a proposed alternative that would work to achieve ALL FOUR pillars. Thank you.

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Chrissy Morgan 22 days ago

I am a resident of the Muir Woods Neighborhood and I’m strongly opposed to the proposed assignment of Davis Drive students to East Cary for all of the reasons posted in this forum.

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Shawn Gibbons 22 days ago

I am a home owner in Providence Commons. We purchased a home in this area specifically because of the school DDEM and DDMS. When we moved in last year and found out that my Son would in fact be going to Weatherstone Elementary it didnt bother us that much cause its still fairly close to home 2.5 miles. Then the bus ride started taking an hour or more so we had to start picking him up from school so he could continue to participate in after school activities. Now you want to move the Middle school over 6 miles away? Come on School board, read the comments and look at the map. Ask yourself how does this make sense? Our neighborhood is 1 mile from the school, there is an area on your map that is downtown Raleigh zoned to go to DDMS, How is that possible when it is 16 miles away on the other side of ECMS? would it not make sense to draw a circle on the map for say 3 miles around each school then any neighborhoods not included in the circles you can split to the nearest schools. Please do not make our assigned school clear across town

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Amy McCullough 22 days ago

I am a home owner in Preston Forest and am shocked that any rational school board would find it prudent to bus students out of their neighborhood school to a school that is 3 times farther away. If WCPSS would like to use the tax payers money wisely, they should not be needlessly increasing the cost of education by busing kids away from their neighborhood schools. Davis Drive has been our base middle school for decades and it is unthinkable that it would make sense to send them to the other side of Cary rather than the school they can walk to. There is certainly no educational agenda being served here. It is wholly disruptive to students, families and neighborhoods when you propose busing kids away from the neighborhood schools. It makes it harder for kids to participate in after school activities (if not impossible) and much harder for parents to be active in the middle schools, which has been very important to the PTSA functioning. My family and I are strongly opposed to this reassignment.

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Shawn Jackson 21 days ago

With all of the discussion on Proximity on this forum, which is one of the key components in how students are assigned to specific schools, I would like to know how the Student Assignment Office missed the target with the current proposal. Below are 7 examples of addresses in Wake County where the homes listed are currently proposed to attend neighborhood schools except one. To quote from North Carolina Safe Routes to School, **When appropriate and safe, walking and bicycling to school is an experience that can help children develop a sense of independence and confidence in their abilities.*** I can’t fathom how incredibly difficult student assignment must be, but for the good of our communities and our students, can the Board/Student Assignment Office work expeditiously to draft a policy where all homes within a safe walk/bike radius are zoned to the existing neighborhood school? This would be a tremendous step in the right direction for all parties involved. Thank you.

**415 MELODY LANE** **.4 MILES FROM REEDY CREEK MS** **ZONED TO REEDY CREEK MS**

**100 CARY PINES DRIVE** **.2 MILES FROM WEST CARY MS** **ZONED TO WEST CARY MS**

**404 RYAN ROAD** **.6 MILES FROM EAST CARY MS** **ZONED TO EAST CARY MS**

**317 CASTLE ROCK LANE** **.7 MILES FROM MILLS PARK MS** **ZONED TO MILLS PARK MS**

**2141 BLAZING TRAIL DRIVE** **.4 MILES FROM APEX FRIENDSHIP MS** **ZONED TO APEX FRIENDSHIP MS**

**6001 OLD JENKS ROAD** **.7 MILES FROM SALEM MS** **ZONED TO SALEM MS**

**100 CHESTONE CT** **.4 MILES FROM DAVIS DRIVE MS** ***ZONED TO EAST CARY MS****

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Ghulam Abutalib 21 days ago

We strongly oppose the proposed reassignment from DDMS to ECMS. We live in Providence Commons and we paid high premium only for DDMS. We invested all of our saving money to our children education. We chose this neighborhood based on the school nearby our home. We do not understand where we are standing right now. Why we will send our kids 6 miles away when there is a school in 2 mile radius. It will negatively affect the families and their life. Reassigning Davis Drive Middle School to East Cary Middle School will discourage parents from participating and investing in their children’s schools. We all oppose this action and want to stay with Davis Drive Middle School.

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Kelley Chapman 21 days ago

It sounds as though moving our kids to ECMS is not solving the underlying problem of what exists at ECMS. I posted earlier, and continue to read responses and talk with people. It sounds as though the root problem is the administration, offerings and aging building at ECMS that makes it undesirable (not to mention a lower great schools score). Moving kids to that will, not fix the root problem. And as far as the Pillars, if this proposal stays, all the Pillars have collapsed. Literally, throw them away and try to come up with some other flavor of the day that could possibly fit what you are trying to do. There are a lot of suggestions. Keeping Mills Park node in Mills Park, moving the node in Raleigh to ECMS, moving new developments (especially those by the Public etc) to ECMS. Grandfathering all current students at DDMS, create a walking only zone. The list goes on. Please consider these suggestions. I have lived in Huntsmoor for 12 years and have always been at DDMS which is 1.2 miles away and can easily walk/bike to school. With a 7:30 start time, our kids would have to catch the bus around the 6:00 AM time frame, as opposed to a 7:30 time frame currently at DDMS. Absolutely unacceptable. Mr. Fletcher you must ardently, and strongly reject this plan and support all that has been said here and last week.

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Laura Levandoski 21 days ago

I live in Fenton Estates which is about .6 of a mile from DDMS. My son is in 6th grade and he walks everyday and loves it! One of the issues Mr. Fletcher brought up several times at the information session at Adams Elementary is that he personally feels like Davis is not a safe road to cross. We have a high visibility large crosswalk at Waldo and Davis and a traffic guard that crosses the kids every morning and afternoon. My son walks home with a large group of friends and is very safe. As a mother I would never put my son or any of my kids into harms way. Our community is a very walking friendly community with nearby restaurants at the corner of High House and Davis.

The school bell rings at 3pm and he is home everyday by 3:15. If he is transferred to East Cary he will be on a bus for over an hour each way. My son is very smart but has a slow processing speed which means it takes him longer than the average student to complete HW or assignments. If he is on a bus for 2 - 3 hours everyday we would have to cut out all extra curricular activities. He needs extra curricular activities such as soccer and basketball so that he can run around and get some exercise. One of many problems with this proposed reassignment is the fact that my son will be sitting on a school bus for up to 3 hours a day verses walking for 20 minutes a day. Please reconsider this change in the second proposal and allow my neighborhood to stay at DDM.

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Jeannine Herrick at September 17, 2018 at 12:00pm EDT

I completely agree with Laura Levandoski. I also have a 6th grade son in the same neighborhood and feel exactly the same. I also echo her comments about safety and how careful and conscious we as a community are about this.

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Julie Hudspeth 21 days ago

The NC Report Cards came out today. The difference between DDMS and ECMS is drastic (including performance - especially math scores, administration/teacher effectiveness, etc) and supports what I've read about more focus needing to be on improving East Cary Middle School itself to draw more attendance, rather than pulling kids as far as 6 miles away who are thriving and happy at their neighborhood school. As the proposal current stands, our kids well-being will be jeopardized for a "band-aid" solution that doesn't address the underlying issues.

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Articulated very well. (1) Do not know if moving these Davis Dr Middle kids to East Cary Middle helps it improve, more than, or if these kids performance will just drop because of disruption to their learning environment - kids friendship groups and circles will be gone, community-school bond no more exists. While moving away neighborhood kids from the school, draft 1 proposes aligning far away neighborhoods from across road 55, from previously West Cary middle, and from Raleigh area - trying to request re-consideration on these.

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Jerry Meyer 19 days ago

I have attached the Report Cards for DDMS and ECMS in an easy to print and read .PDF document. Please review and comment.

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Julie Hudspeth 21 days ago

N.C. Report Cards referenced in above comment: https://www.wpss.net/Page/3811

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Dear WCPSS, Thank you very much for the opportunity to let some of us express our thoughts on sep 04th. We from Fenton Estates across Davis Drive Middle school, understand there are many complexities and points of view for reassigning schools. We greatly appreciate the due diligence going into this exercise. I have a suggestion on how certain school areas may be aligned, please see the attached picture. Just attempting to share another thought and view, if this can help for assigning neighborhoods appropriately to schools. My thoughts were to see if some students can have (1) stability with no disturbance to their environment and learning, (2) lesser commute times for some in future, (3) wcpss transport system optimization. I understand these are not as simple as looking at a map, but just sharing what i thought may help.

I continue to urge WCPSS to have the closest neighborhoods to remain aligned with Davis Drive Middle school, instead of aligning far away communities from across road 55. Many of these close communities are quite attached to Davis Drive elementary and middle schools. Regards, Ranga

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Tim Riley 20 days ago

Correction - that's "Overlook" not "Outlook".

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Marybeth Boyd 21 days ago

Ranga, thank you for posting this map. Excellent suggestions!

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Tim Riley 20 days ago

There seems to be a lot of misconception regarding the area west of 55 that has been reassigned to GHE/DDMS. That entire brown area consists of two extremely small neighborhoods (Ashley Woods and Outlook) with a very small amount of children attending the schools in question. The rest of the area in brown, is undeveloped and all slated to be commercially developed (see Green Level Destination center and proposed office at corner of Branton and GLW). Speaking for myself as an Ashley Woods resident, it makes no sense to re-assign us from Highcroft/Mills park, as our small numbers will not help correct any under or overcrowding. Moving us to Salem Middle makes even less sense (Salem Middle is already our calendar option).

Just wanted to clarify regarding the "far away communities" across 55.

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Thanks Tim, for clarifying. Completely agree on letting kids learn in a stable environment, and seems like we are in a similar situation then. Since kids of multiple communities are proposed to move in draft-1, trying to reduce number of kids and communities that need to move. But I understand now that you seem to be in similar situation as us.

I prefer to have all currently enrolled kids and neighborhoods remain as now, and have newer and closer communities to help fill East Cary middle school. Assigning the new and closer neighborhoods families and kids will surely bring enthusiasm and optimism to ECMS. Moving older and established communities to unrelated and far away schools is surely going to disrupt students learning and overall enthusiasm for education, and the families participation in the school. Do not know about the progress of the school, but the students will surely be negatively impacted, especially for middle and high schools aged kids.

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Kristen Geyer 20 days ago

I live in Fenton Estates directly off of Davis Drive, .6 miles from Davis Drive Middle School and am part of the rezoning to East Cary Middle 6.6 miles away. While 6.6 miles may not seem far to Wake County School Board this decision will dramatically change our lives for the next 10 years as my 4 kids progress through middle school. We currently live .5 miles from Davis Drive elementary school, yet drive our kids 15 minutes to Weatherstone every day. There are several other schools closer than Weatherstone, yet I have changed my job and rearranged my life to drive my kids for the better of Wake county public school. I spend 30 minutes in the morning driving and my kids spend 1 hour (at least) on the bus in the afternoon. We could walk to Davis in less than 10 minutes. That is 50 minutes more a day that we spend in transportation to and from school. At what point is the board of education going to think about the lives of their families? I understand that you need to move kids East to West and alleviate overcrowding, however, that plan should NOT include moving kids that can walk to a school. This doesn't make sense for us and it doesn't make sense for Wake County Public School system. I have heard that because we are across Davis Drive we are considered busers. I would like to know statistics to back this up. In our "block", how many kids does WCPSS actually bus home from DDMS? Most families walk, alleviating the busing and traffic burden. I have heard the claim that it is not safe to cross Davis Drive. Again, where are the statistics? My youngest attends preschool directly across Davis Drive and we walk to drop him off and pick him up almost every day. I have never felt unsafe crossing at a crosswalk with a light and wouldn't do so if it put my child in danger.
I ask you to look at the statistics and reconsider rezoning families <1 mile from a school for the better of your Families and your schools.

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Jeannine Herrick at September 17, 2018 at 11:57am EDT

I agree with Kristen Geyer, using Davis Drive itself as a new boundary doesn't make any sense. Safety comes first for our children and we are very conscious about how they get to school. I also feel that this potential reassignment burdens families with multiple children in ways that the school board may not have fully considered. Catastrophic is how it would feel for many of us. This would greatly impact my job.

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Gregory Studdard 20 days ago

commeRE: Rezoning of Sherborne Subdivision in Cary for David Drive Middle School. The subdivision is actually new to me. I just moved in with my daughter in June of this year! So you can imagine that a rezoning that quickly was rather alarming. I was on a mission to select DDMS district for my daughter to maximize her education and comfort level with a new school given it's consistent ratings.

I actually spent 17 years in Durham and specifically moved to this area for the Middle and High School. I rented last year so that my daughter could start 6th grade at Davis Drive Middle School. This rezoning actually does not impact her for completing middle school in fact...she will be grandfathered in to finish, or so I'm told....fingers crossed there.

I do take issue with the fact that I spent Enormous resources to move twice in one year to get accomplished a successful move into this community. The move into the rental home in Upchurch Farms (which STILL is zoned for DDMS) and then over here less than a year later, breaking my lease early when this home, which I love, came on the market! I actually paid a premium to buy it and make sure I got it over other bidders, as is common over here. So now, two months later, the decision to rezone the area, is VERY impactful to my home's VALUE....and of course NOT in taxes, those will remain HIGH unless I fight them on that and can show the value decrease!!

From what I can tell, new homes across Highway 55 and near Publix, on the same side of Cary across the 'line', are now zoned for DDMS, which is why there is little room left to keep us in the zone. This looks conspicuously like the WCPSS and Wake County have given more incentive for new home buyers to buy in their county, keep a high sales/tax price, and taken away the value to existing residents....wouldn't you agree?? It feels very much like a Bait and Switch to residents here, I just don't know if they have put it quite in those terms just yet...

As a member of the DDMS and Wake County COMMUNITY of RESIDENTS, I respectfully request reconsideration of plans to rezone Sherborne for Davis Drive Middle School. I do not want my daughter losing friends who have to move away to another neighborhood that still is slated for DDMS! This DOES impact everyone here! If the Board is confident in their decision, then Sell us on the idea of your choice - compare quality of education to DDMS, ratings and distance and make your case.

Thank you for your time and attention to this difficult matter.

Greg Studdard Sherborne

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Tim Riley 20 days ago

There are no new homes across 55 that are being assigned to DDMS. The small area west of 55 consists of two very small established neighborhoods built in the 80's and 90's. The rest of that area is undeveloped, and slated to be developed commercially (Green Level Destination Center). We, west of 55, are just as unhappy with our re-assignments as you are, and our neighborhoods have been around as long if not longer than yours. We should be working together.

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Jennifer Jackson 20 days ago

Hi Tim. I totally agree with your comments and thanks for clarifying your community's position on the rezoning. It does not make sense to bus us out to bus you in all while busing current ECMS students out as well.

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Michael Albidrez 20 days ago

Another example of the hardship this change would be for my family...I could walk my girls to DDMS around 7:45am and get there on time. At East Cary, I would have to drive them to school at 6:30am to get there by the 7am start time. That also means we would have to wake them up around 5:30am in the morning every day! Not to mention the 3+ HOURS of after school care they would need until my wife or I could pick them up after work.

That being said, I understand reassignments are necessary and they happen all the time. I live in Sherborne and I realize that although I think we are the closest neighborhood to DDMS that is zoned for East Cary, you'd have to sacrifice another neighborhood to East Cary to keep my neighborhood at DDMS. I suggest that the board uses their own guidelines for busing here. The transportation guidelines state 'Students living within their school's walk zone (1.5 miles) are not allowed to ride a bus unless it is an unsafe walking environment (for example, a multi-lane highway without a crossing).' I think that anyone that is living within the 1.5 miles designated as the walk zone for any school, as set by Wake County, should be allowed to go to that school. This would keep it fair for all school levels (elementary, middle, high) and fair for every neighborhood. The finite number of 'walkers' in these zones should basically wash out for each school, meaning Wake County's attendance goals would still be met. Reliance on busing students all over town would drop. Traffic would be less congested. Future reassignments would be easier to plan with less uproar. Sometimes the simplest solution is the right solution.

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Rob Eaton 20 days ago

At the meeting last week they asked for alternatives to the current proposal. Here you go Proposal alternative solutions for the board -

  1. Keep current neighborhoods assigned to DDMS as they stand and send the neighborhoods further west to ECMS until you build new schools (which should already be planned for) in the high growth new developments further west.

  2. Keep neighborhoods currently assigned to DDMS as they stand. Utilize additional trailers at DDMS for a temporary solution to house some of the additional students coming from further west and send the rest to either salem or mills park middle schools depending upon location until new schools are built further west in the new developments.

Either solution is temporary until new schools are built where there is excess demand. There isn't a viable reason to bus kids within walking distance to another school.

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Tim Riley 19 days ago

@Rob - I was also at the meeting last night and believe I live in one of the neighborhoods "further west" that you refer to above. I've stated this above, but will reiterate here in case you missed it - the neighborhoods west of 55 that are being re-assigned to GHE/DDMS are two very small, established neighborhoods that were built in the 80's and 90's, similar to the neighborhoods in your area. We are also very unhappy at the prospect of being re-assigned to a very bizarre and unstable feeder pattern. We should be working together instead of calling each other out.

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Rob Eaton 18 days ago

Thanks for the info Tim. It seems like the proposed changes benefit no one and are only making everyone unhappy.

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Mitch Rozen 19 days ago

Dear Wake County Board:

I wanted to share my thoughts on the matter of the rezoning issues that have been going on. We reside near the corner of Waldo Rood and Davis Dr.; only a few blocks from Davis Drive Middle School.

The concept that has been presented is that in spite of our close proximity of the school, our children will be sent over 7 miles to a school that seems to be chosen arbitrarily except for the fact that there is available space. This space exists now in the middle school which we currently live near. The argument from what I understand is this will make way for the new potential children that will be moving into developments farther down Davis Dr. towards Apex. We moved into this area, and pay higher taxes as a result, just for one of the main reasons was the closeness of the schools nearby. Now that we have been sold on this, that selling point is now being taken away potentially by the school boards discretion.

We have been assigned to this school and now it is threatened to be taken away without our say in the matter. Distance needs to be considered along with common sense. I travel extensively for my job and don't have the time nor am I home nearly enough to take my kids to school. The school bus system is far too unreliable. The tracking system GPS of the school bus administration never works. My children currently go to Morrisville Elementary. After spending 2 years on the buses, we have decided to pull them off this year due to the simple fact that wait for our children to arrive has been very unreliable. Bussing them even farther away over 7 miles (currently we are ~2 miles way from Morrisville Elementary. The wait for our children to arrive would make us have to do this all over again with personal transportation being next to impossible without compromising my wife's job or my own.

Also, the travel will have negative implications on our children's academic performance. Time spent on homework and school will have to be eliminated for empty travel time to and from school that they will have to endure. This is something that can be stopped with the simple fact of leaving things as they are and not changing to something that is far worse. Please consider this email as my formal stance of leaving the zones as they are and not getting creative into making them far worse.

Sincerely,

Mitch Rozen

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Laura Parker 17 days ago

I fervently oppose Draft 1 of the Wake County 2019-20 Student Enrollment Proposal. I understand that rezoning is required as population shifts occur. However, my home stands 1.6 miles from Davis Drive Middle School and is slated for reassignment to East Cary Middle School, 6 miles away. This is true for many neighbors who also live within 2 miles of DDMS. I oppose the current draft for several reasons:

  • DDMS is a short bike ride or bus ride away from our home. ECMS will require extensive ride times on the bus.

  • Earlier start times and bus stop times will require significantly earlier wake up times. This interferes with sleep and performance at school. Long rides in the afternoon will drain energy after a busy day. It will be more difficult to focus at school, focus on homework, and prepare for the next day. This negatively affects development and academic achievement.

  • Decreased energy and time will make it more difficult to participate in after-school programs and spend quality time with family.

  • I regularly volunteer with classroom activities, school-wide events, and fundraisers at our elementary school. It is located 2.3 miles from our home. If we are reassigned to a middle school that is 6 miles away, my ability to participate will be drastically reduced.

  • Our family has a strong sense of community with other families that live in or close to our neighborhood. This community will be lost if our children are uprooted to a school that pulls them away from church, after-school enrichment programs, and neighborhood social activities.

A quality school system educates children to their maximum potential. A quality school system prepares children to successfully work, live, and participate in their communities. Stretching children thin and uprooting community at such a young and vulnerable age defeats these goals.

I implore you to leave our neighborhood and the other neighborhoods that are within close proximity to DDMS at DDMS and not reassign them to ECMS.

Thank you for your attention and consideration.

Sincerely,

Laura Parker Preston Forest

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Sarah Deeb at September 12, 2018 at 2:33pm EDT

The Earlier start time coupled with a long bus ride will result in countless hours of wasted time for our children , and families

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Jeannine Herrick at September 17, 2018 at 11:49am EDT

I agree with Laura... and as a mother working full time outside the home this proposed change that included Fenton Estates would put my child over an hour from my place of employment. With three kids in three schools this would be a disaster for our family. At DDMS I can occasionally work from home and pop over to volunteer or attend important school events or meetings. The reassignment would make it impossible for me to stay involved.

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ARATI KIRTIKAR 17 days ago

I came across a metric that is inconsistent with what we were told at the Adam's elementary Meeting. The reason we were being moved from DDMS to ECMS was because ECMS is underutilized, was what they said.

However, in slide 32 of the presentation

https://www.wcpss.net/cms/lib/NC01911451/Centricity/Domain/6073/Adams%20BAC.pdf

it is clear that moving us out will bring DDMS down to 78% in 2019 and 73% in 2020. 73% is one percentage point higher than current ECMS utilization! How is this being justified?

Is this to make space for future students from West Cary? The future, as yet un-built developments? It does not seem like operational efficiency and utilization is driving this reassignment of our neighborhood.

I still remain hopeful that you will listen to our heartfelt pleas.

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Ngoc Hulbig 16 days ago

Agree that DDMS is overcorrected in Draft 1. We understand WCPSS has its hands full trying to keep pace with the growing population and new developments. However, we hope that WCPSS will endeavor to maintain the Four Pillars for existing students and will not destabilize and send them to far off schools in order to make room for future students that have not moved here yet and are not currently constituents of the Board.

Please consider satellite zoning and satellite nodes to place students where needed and avoid further crowding of West Cary schools until new schools are built. Satellite zoning preserves the Stability pillar for both existing and future students, as future students from a new neighborhood all will attend the same satellite school until a new school is built in closer proximity. Satellite nodes are a proven solution for increasing socioeconomic diversity and also can be used to place the burden of new growth on future families that choose to buy in new developments as opposed to current students with existing ties and investment in their schools.

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Sarah Deeb at September 12, 2018 at 1:59pm EDT

I agree 100% with Ms. Kirtikar, and Ms. Hulbig. This plan will leave DDMS at 73% utilization in the year 2020, with trailors! That's one percent higher than current ECMS utilization. Please explain how it makes sense to uproot current students, and families just to save spots for neighborhoods that haven't even been built yet?

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Ngoc Hulbig at September 12, 2018 at 4:17pm EDT

Here is a graphic illustrating satellite nodes. Please do consider this zoning methodology as it will avoid all of the negative impact on the Four Pillars that all of the parents on this forum have detailed extensively, yet still alleviate crowding and future crowding of West Cary schools (with the burden being borne by new families that don't yet exist living in homes that currently are dirt plots) AND allow WCPSS to funnel students to underutilized schools.

Attachments: Satellite_Zoning.pptx
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Michael Albidrez 16 days ago

Can someone on the board explain to me why Oxford Square Apartments and Merriwood Apartments are getting zoned to Lufkin Middle? They are directly across the street from East Cary. They actually share the same light as the main entrance to the school! Why would you rezone them to Lufkin, 8 miles away? Also, there is an older trailer park next to Merriwood Apartments that looks like it's getting zoned to Lufkin or Alston Ridge, which is 13 miles away! Bill Fletcher says there is no conflict of interest, but his neighborhood is getting rezoned from Reedy Creek to East Cary, while lower income neighborhoods that were zoned for East Cary are getting shipped 8 to 13 miles away. What is the explanation for these seemingly 'random' assignments? Please keep Sherborne at Davis Drive!

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Ngoc Hulbig 16 days ago

As a couple of comments above noted, Muirfield and Bradford (450 luxury homes/apartments/condos on the east side of Davis Drive above High House Road) currently are assigned to West Cary MS and are proposed for rezoning to Davis Drive MS.

  1. This is a west-to-east movement of students that is contrary to the need to relieve crowding in West Cary.

  2. Draft 1 also proposes to rezone these neighborhoods to Green Hope ES in order to streamline transportation with Davis Drive MS; however, this increases the crowding at Green Hope ES, bringing its utilization rate from 121% with trailers to 134% in 2019-20 and to 144% in 2020-21 (likely with adverse effect to the K-2 classroom size mandate).

  3. There is no socioeconomic justification to replace current Davis Drive MS students with affluent West Cary MS students.

  4. Instead of moving West Cary MS students to Davis Drive MS and then moving Davis Drive MS students to East Cary MS, it would be more efficient to move the West Cary MS students to East Cary MS. The Stability of one node is affected instead of two in order to accomplish the same goal.

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Jessica Banik at September 12, 2018 at 10:02pm EDT

Can't agree with you any more!!!!

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Sarah Deeb at September 12, 2018 at 2:01pm EDT

I support all of the above suggestions made by Ngoc Hulbig.

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Ngoc Hulbig at September 12, 2018 at 4:56pm EDT

I meant to say that this is an east-to-west movement of students that is contrary to the need to relieve crowding in West Cary. (I am sure all the people echoing my comments below mean to say this as well!)

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Jonathan Vogel 15 days ago

I am opposed to the plan. We currently have one student in DDMS and another in elementary school. We live 1.1 miles from DDMS and the plan would move us to a school 6 miles away. We did not get any mail regarding this rezoning proposal and the only way we learned about it was from the news and talking to other parents. Many others have listed reasons that I feel are applicable to our family, such as: • DDMS is a short bike ride or bus ride away from our home. ECMS will require extensive ride times on the bus. • Decreased energy and time will make it more difficult to participate in after-school programs and spend quality time with family. • Our family has a strong sense of community with other families that live in or close to our neighborhood. This community will be lost if our children are uprooted to a school that pulls them away from church, after-school enrichment programs, and neighborhood social activities.

I plan on familiarizing myself with the next draft of the proposal to fully be able to fully comment on and provide additional feedback to those who drafted it. Additionally, it is unfortunate that this plan is not easy to find from the wake county schools website. It took some searching to get here. This information should be more transparent, especially for a plan that will impact many students.

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Ani Worlikar 15 days ago

Agree with the proposals above. 1. It makes sense to leave neighborhoods across the street from Davis Drive MS with DDMS. The neighborhoods further away, and new neighborhoods should be moved to ECMS. 2.There is also a node in Raleigh assigned to DDMS. Based on the map is seems to be 2-3 miles away from ECMS and about 10 miles away from DDMS. Can that be assigned to ECMS to improve utilization of ECMS?

@WCPSS - there have been many proposals floated above. Can you post on this forum if these have been taken into account?

Ani

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erica kremer 15 days ago

Regarding the rezoning of DDMS to ECMS, I would like to reiterate the points made my Ngoc Hulbig and others stated above. The analysis of real data provided makes it quite clear that the current rezoning plan cannot remain as is. It does not makes economic sense, does not provide long-term stability, and quite honestly, reeks of conflict of interest. I am particularly in favor of the idea of satellite zoning. It seems to me that this would decrease the number of inevitable reassignments in the short term while improving the long term stability and learning for students.

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Jennifer Jackson 15 days ago

Suggestions I would like to offer as alternatives for rezoning DDMS to ECMS include: 1) Leave Muirfield and Bradford (450 luxury homes/apartments/condos on the east side of Davis Drive above High House Road) at WCMS. 2) Leave Ashley Forest and Overlook at MPMS (west of 55). 3) Leave students within a bike/walk radius at their neighborhood school to alleviate overburdening the bus system as well as carpool lines. 4) Reevaluate your utilization #'s for DDMS with the opening of Alston Ridge and reconsider the definition of overcrowding. The schools routinely referred to as 'overcrowded' are consistently the best performing schools. Maybe there is something to be said about some healthy competition. 5) Consider satellite zones for new developments. This preserves stability for well established families such as those commenting on this topic. New homebuyers have a choice to decide if the assigned school fits their needs. 6) Perform an analysis of the $ impact of busing kids from ECMS to Lufkin, from DDMS to ECMS and from MPMS to DDMS. Have you saved anything by filling a couple seats at ECMS considering the additional busing and lost parent involvement?

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Jeffrey Millman 15 days ago

I would like to inform the members of the board that the grocery store that is close to their house is now off-limits for their purposes of feeding their families. It doesn't matter that they purchased their home because it is convenient to a well-run store with nutritious items to feed their families. There is another store that is 6.6 miles away that they now have to use. Don't worry if it takes 45-60 minutes in traffic to get almost two hours to get there and back. Their families won't mind waiting longer for food for dinner. Food isn't important. Time isn't important, right?

The park that they use to enjoy the beautiful Cary sunshine and get exercise and spend quality time with their families that is .5 miles from their house is no longer an option either. So sorry for that. It isn't any problem to go to the park that is 5.5 miles from their home. It doesn't matter that they will be smelling the exhaust of the cars in front of them and missing out on 1.5 hours of sunshine a day. It is no big deal, really.

I would also like to let them know that they have to choose to leave work early and upset their boss or miss their child's school play. Don't worry, their child or their boss won't mind. Both are fine with those decisions. You didn't really spend more for your house to be closer to school, did you?

Your decisions are difficult, yes. You can't make everyone happy, we know.

But. This. Plan. Makes. No. Sense.

Work harder and come up with a better plan. Instead of reprinting the logical suggestions on this forum, I thought maybe I would grab your attention by highlighting how ridiculous your plan is. It affects every member of the family, every day, for years.

This is not okay.

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ERICA JONES 15 days ago

I completely agree with Ngoc Hulbig's comments and am strongly opposed to re-zoning the Arlington Ridge neighborhood to East Cary Middle School. From a location, transportation and expense perspective it does not make sense also keeping in mind is not what is best for the children. Thank you for your consideration.

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Shelley Chen 15 days ago

Fully agree with what Ngoc Hulbig said above, attached again below. I don't understand why those new constructions are proposed to DDMS while old students in Sherborne and Stonegate community, only half mile away DDMS, are rezoned to WCMS. This makes everybody full of imagination. What does base school means? What I understand the most important characteristics of base school is convenience. How can you imagine for some so-called reasons, a half mile away community has to be rezoned to some other schools that is not convenient at all and what so-called luxury new constructions took over their benefits. You cannot find a school half mile away. We want DDMS, not WCMS!!! forwarded from Ngoc Hulbig: As a couple of comments above noted, Muirfield and Bradford (450 luxury homes/apartments/condos on the east side of Davis Drive above High House Road) currently are assigned to West Cary MS and are proposed for rezoning to Davis Drive MS.

This is a west-to-east movement of students that is contrary to the need to relieve crowding in West Cary.

Draft 1 also proposes to rezone these neighborhoods to Green Hope ES in order to streamline transportation with Davis Drive MS; however, this increases the crowding at Green Hope ES, bringing its utilization rate from 121% with trailers to 134% in 2019-20 and to 144% in 2020-21 (likely with adverse effect to the K-2 classroom size mandate).

There is no socioeconomic justification to replace current Davis Drive MS students with affluent West Cary MS students.

Instead of moving West Cary MS students to Davis Drive MS and then moving Davis Drive MS students to East Cary MS, it would be more efficient to move the West Cary MS students to East Cary MS. The Stability of one node is affected instead of two in order to accomplish the same goal.

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Remi Ham 14 days ago

I too agree with Ngoc Hulbig's comments above. We are STRONGLY opposed to re-zoning the Arlington Ridge neighborhood to East Cary Middle School. The proposed relocation simply DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!!! Considering location, transportation expense, and the severe impact it will have on our children, this plan is not a good solution. Please DO NOT make this change, as it will be an extreme hardship on our family!

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Tom Wang 14 days ago

I fully agree with Ngoc Hulbig.

Agree that DDMS is overcorrected in Draft 1. We understand WCPSS has its hands full trying to keep pace with the growing population and new developments. However, we hope that WCPSS will endeavor to maintain the Four Pillars for existing students and will not destabilize and send them to far off schools in order to make room for future students that have not moved here yet and are not currently constituents of the Board.

Please consider satellite zoning and satellite nodes to place students where needed and avoid further crowding of West Cary schools until new schools are built. Satellite zoning preserves the Stability pillar for both existing and future students, as future students from a new neighborhood all will attend the same satellite school until a new school is built in closer proximity. Satellite nodes are a proven solution for increasing socioeconomic diversity and also can be used to place the burden of new growth on future families that choose to buy in new developments as opposed to current students with existing ties and investment in their schools.

As a couple of comments above noted, Muirfield and Bradford (450 luxury homes/apartments/condos on the east side of Davis Drive above High House Road) currently are assigned to West Cary MS and are proposed for rezoning to Davis Drive MS.

This is a west-to-east movement of students that is contrary to the need to relieve crowding in West Cary.

Draft 1 also proposes to rezone these neighborhoods to Green Hope ES in order to streamline transportation with Davis Drive MS; however, this increases the crowding at Green Hope ES, bringing its utilization rate from 121% with trailers to 134% in 2019-20 and to 144% in 2020-21 (likely with adverse effect to the K-2 classroom size mandate).

There is no socioeconomic justification to replace current Davis Drive MS students with affluent West Cary MS students.

Instead of moving West Cary MS students to Davis Drive MS and then moving Davis Drive MS students to East Cary MS, it would be more efficient to move the West Cary MS students to East Cary MS. The Stability of one node is affected instead of two in order to accomplish the same goal.

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Tom Wang 14 days ago

My son goes to DDMS and I am very concerned about the Draft 1 proposal which moves us to East Cary Middle. This is in fact a "family-separation" proposal which forces my kids go to different schools for no good reasons.

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Shelley Shalhoub 14 days ago

Residing in Providence Commons, we completely agree with the above comments/solutions and hope the board and student assignment keeps our neighborhood zoned for DDMS. I spent the weekend talking to my neighbors-- we all agree the proposed move to ECM would not only be a hardship for our families-for many reasons- it just isn't a logical solution. In the current proposal there are newly constructed neighborhoods seemingly taking our place at the school, while we are being shuffled to a school quite a distance away, That just doesn't seem right to me-- especially when those neighborhoods aren't even filled with people yet. We understand our area is growing, but it just doesn't seem right to send our established neighborhoods to a school far away, just so room can be created for students who aren't even here yet.. The big thing for me is the sense of community. We all live where we do because we want to be a part of something- part of a community- which includes the schools. Please keep our neighborhood at DDMS.

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Sarah Deeb at September 12, 2018 at 2:21pm EDT

The residents of Preston Forest agree 100% Shelley! We support all of our neighboring communities-

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Julie Hudspeth 14 days ago

Please keep our neighborhood, Providence Commons, at DDMS. Giving our kids a stable sense of community is very important, especially during the already difficult middle school years. Our neighborhood is very diverse, and my kids are starting to form strong bonds with other nearby kids - forming supportive and encouraging relationships. It takes a village to raise a family - and keeping our kids at DDMS closeby is logical, and also essential to having our kids feel like part of a community - BE the community - that will hold them accountable. Please do not overcorrect the overcrowding at DDMS, instead consider leaving established, nearby neighborhoods within 2 miles of the school at their community school.

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Mike Prentice at September 12, 2018 at 9:14am EDT

This is a west-to-east movement of students that is contrary to the need to relieve crowding in West Cary.

Draft 1 also proposes to rezone these neighborhoods to Green Hope ES in order to streamline transportation with Davis Drive MS; however, this increases the crowding at Green Hope ES, bringing its utilization rate from 121% with trailers to 134% in 2019-20 and to 144% in 2020-21 (likely with adverse effect to the K-2 classroom size mandate).

There is no socioeconomic justification to replace current Davis Drive MS students with affluent West Cary MS students.

Instead of moving West Cary MS students to Davis Drive MS and then moving Davis Drive MS students to East Cary MS, it would be more efficient to move the West Cary MS students to East Cary MS. The Stability of one node is affected instead of two in order to accomplish the same goal.

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Zhenrong Liu at September 12, 2018 at 10:51am EDT

I fully agree with Ngoc Hulbig'm suggestions and comments:

Agree that DDMS is overcorrected in Draft 1. We understand WCPSS has its hands full trying to keep pace with the growing population and new developments. However, we hope that WCPSS will endeavor to maintain the Four Pillars for existing students and will not destabilize and send them to far off schools in order to make room for future students that have not moved here yet and are not currently constituents of the Board. Please consider satellite zoning and satellite nodes to place students where needed and avoid further crowding of West Cary schools until new schools are built. Satellite zoning preserves the Stability pillar for both existing and future students, as future students from a new neighborhood all will attend the same satellite school until a new school is built in closer proximity. Satellite nodes are a proven solution for increasing socioeconomic diversity and also can be used to place the burden of new growth on future families that choose to buy in new developments as opposed to current students with existing ties and investment in their schools. As a couple of comments above noted, Muirfield and Bradford (450 luxury homes/apartments/condos on the east side of Davis Drive above High House Road) currently are assigned to West Cary MS and are proposed for rezoning to Davis Drive MS. 1. This is a west-to-east movement of students that is contrary to the need to relieve crowding in West Cary. 2. Draft 1 also proposes to rezone these neighborhoods to Green Hope ES in order to streamline transportation with Davis Drive MS; however, this increases the crowding at Green Hope ES, bringing its utilization rate from 121% with trailers to 134% in 2019-20 and to 144% in 2020-21 (likely with adverse effect to the K-2 classroom size mandate). 3. There is no socioeconomic justification to replace current Davis Drive MS students with affluent West Cary MS students. 4. Instead of moving West Cary MS students to Davis Drive MS and then moving Davis Drive MS students to East Cary MS, it would be more efficient to move the West Cary MS students to East Cary MS. The Stability of one node is affected instead of two in order to accomplish the same goal.

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Shelley Chen at September 12, 2018 at 10:52am EDT

For Shernborne/Stonegate community, I fully agree with Ngoc Hulbig.

Agree that DDMS is overcorrected in Draft 1. We understand WCPSS has its hands full trying to keep pace with the growing population and new developments. However, we hope that WCPSS will endeavor to maintain the Four Pillars for existing students and will not destabilize and send them to far off schools in order to make room for future students that have not moved here yet and are not currently constituents of the Board.

Please consider satellite zoning and satellite nodes to place students where needed and avoid further crowding of West Cary schools until new schools are built. Satellite zoning preserves the Stability pillar for both existing and future students, as future students from a new neighborhood all will attend the same satellite school until a new school is built in closer proximity. Satellite nodes are a proven solution for increasing socioeconomic diversity and also can be used to place the burden of new growth on future families that choose to buy in new developments as opposed to current students with existing ties and investment in their schools.

As a couple of comments above noted, Muirfield and Bradford (450 luxury homes/apartments/condos on the east side of Davis Drive above High House Road) currently are assigned to West Cary MS and are proposed for rezoning to Davis Drive MS.

This is a west-to-east movement of students that is contrary to the need to relieve crowding in West Cary.

Draft 1 also proposes to rezone these neighborhoods to Green Hope ES in order to streamline transportation with Davis Drive MS; however, this increases the crowding at Green Hope ES, bringing its utilization rate from 121% with trailers to 134% in 2019-20 and to 144% in 2020-21 (likely with adverse effect to the K-2 classroom size mandate).

There is no socioeconomic justification to replace current Davis Drive MS students with affluent West Cary MS students.

Instead of moving West Cary MS students to Davis Drive MS and then moving Davis Drive MS students to East Cary MS, it would be more efficient to move the West Cary MS students to East Cary MS. The Stability of one node is affected instead of two in order to accomplish the same goal.

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Tom Wang at September 12, 2018 at 11:27am EDT

Attn: Mr. Cardoza and board members, please keep Sherborne with DDMS!

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Inyong Park at September 12, 2018 at 11:30am EDT

For Providence Commons community, I fully agree with Ngoc Hulbig. Agree that DDMS is overcorrected in Draft 1. We understand WCPSS has its hands full trying to keep pace with the growing population and new developments. However, we hope that WCPSS will endeavor to maintain the Four Pillars for existing students and will not destabilize and send them to far off schools in order to make room for future students that have not moved here yet and are not currently constituents of the Board. Please consider satellite zoning and satellite nodes to place students where needed and avoid further crowding of West Cary schools until new schools are built. Satellite zoning preserves the Stability pillar for both existing and future students, as future students from a new neighborhood all will attend the same satellite school until a new school is built in closer proximity. Satellite nodes are a proven solution for increasing socioeconomic diversity and also can be used to place the burden of new growth on future families that choose to buy in new developments as opposed to current students with existing ties and investment in their schools. As a couple of comments above noted, Muirfield and Bradford (450 luxury homes/apartments/condos on the east side of Davis Drive above High House Road) currently are assigned to West Cary MS and are proposed for rezoning to Davis Drive MS. This is a west-to-east movement of students that is contrary to the need to relieve crowding in West Cary. Draft 1 also proposes to rezone these neighborhoods to Green Hope ES in order to streamline transportation with Davis Drive MS; however, this increases the crowding at Green Hope ES, bringing its utilization rate from 121% with trailers to 134% in 2019-20 and to 144% in 2020-21 (likely with adverse effect to the K-2 classroom size mandate). There is no socioeconomic justification to replace current Davis Drive MS students with affluent West Cary MS students. Instead of moving West Cary MS students to Davis Drive MS and then moving Davis Drive MS students to East Cary MS, it would be more efficient to move the West Cary MS students to East Cary MS. The Stability of one node is affected instead of two in order to accomplish the same goal.

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Grande Maison at September 12, 2018 at 11:49am EDT

Attn: Mr. Cardoza, Mr. Fletcher and other board members, please keep Sherborne with DDMS. I fully agree with Ngoc Hulbig whose comments make a lot of sense.

Agree that DDMS is overcorrected in Draft 1. We understand WCPSS has its hands full trying to keep pace with the growing population and new developments. However, we hope that WCPSS will endeavor to maintain the Four Pillars for existing students and will not destabilize and send them to far off schools in order to make room for future students that have not moved here yet and are not currently constituents of the Board.

Please consider satellite zoning and satellite nodes to place students where needed and avoid further crowding of West Cary schools until new schools are built. Satellite zoning preserves the Stability pillar for both existing and future students, as future students from a new neighborhood all will attend the same satellite school until a new school is built in closer proximity. Satellite nodes are a proven solution for increasing socioeconomic diversity and also can be used to place the burden of new growth on future families that choose to buy in new developments as opposed to current students with existing ties and investment in their schools.

As a couple of comments above noted, Muirfield and Bradford (450 luxury homes/apartments/condos on the east side of Davis Drive above High House Road) currently are assigned to West Cary MS and are proposed for rezoning to Davis Drive MS.

This is a west-to-east movement of students that is contrary to the need to relieve crowding in West Cary.

Draft 1 also proposes to rezone these neighborhoods to Green Hope ES in order to streamline transportation with Davis Drive MS; however, this increases the crowding at Green Hope ES, bringing its utilization rate from 121% with trailers to 134% in 2019-20 and to 144% in 2020-21 (likely with adverse effect to the K-2 classroom size mandate).

There is no socioeconomic justification to replace current Davis Drive MS students with affluent West Cary MS students.

Instead of moving West Cary MS students to Davis Drive MS and then moving Davis Drive MS students to East Cary MS, it would be more efficient to move the West Cary MS students to East Cary MS. The Stability of one node is affected instead of two in order to accomplish the same goal.

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Family Separated By WCPSS at September 12, 2018 at 11:56am EDT

Hello Bill Fletcher, Monika Johnson-Hostler, Dr. Jim Martin, Donald Agee, Roxie Cash, Kathy Hartenstine, Christine Kushner, Lindsay Mahaffey, Keith Sutton:

I live in Sherborne and my son goes to DDMS. I am very concerned about the Draft 1 proposal which moves us to East Cary Middle. This is in fact a "family-separation" proposal which forces my kids go to different schools for no good reasons.

Would you mind to consider the comments from "Ngoc Hulbig"?

I am quoting here: "Agree that DDMS is overcorrected in Draft 1. We understand WCPSS has its hands full trying to keep pace with the growing population and new developments. However, we hope that WCPSS will endeavor to maintain the Four Pillars for existing students and will not destabilize and send them to far off schools in order to make room for future students that have not moved here yet and are not currently constituents of the Board.

Please consider satellite zoning and satellite nodes to place students where needed and avoid further crowding of West Cary schools until new schools are built. Satellite zoning preserves the Stability pillar for both existing and future students, as future students from a new neighborhood all will attend the same satellite school until a new school is built in closer proximity. Satellite nodes are a proven solution for increasing socioeconomic diversity and also can be used to place the burden of new growth on future families that choose to buy in new developments as opposed to current students with existing ties and investment in their schools.

As a couple of comments above noted, Muirfield and Bradford (450 luxury homes/apartments/condos on the east side of Davis Drive above High House Road) currently are assigned to West Cary MS and are proposed for rezoning to Davis Drive MS.

This is a west-to-east movement of students that is contrary to the need to relieve crowding in West Cary.

Draft 1 also proposes to rezone these neighborhoods to Green Hope ES in order to streamline transportation with Davis Drive MS; however, this increases the crowding at Green Hope ES, bringing its utilization rate from 121% with trailers to 134% in 2019-20 and to 144% in 2020-21 (likely with adverse effect to the K-2 classroom size mandate).

There is no socioeconomic justification to replace current Davis Drive MS students with affluent West Cary MS students.

Instead of moving West Cary MS students to Davis Drive MS and then moving Davis Drive MS students to East Cary MS, it would be more efficient to move the West Cary MS students to East Cary MS. The Stability of one node is affected instead of two in order to accomplish the same goal."

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Vivek Vaidya at September 12, 2018 at 5:09pm EDT

I strongly oppose the proposal in draft1 and would like to request WCPSS representatives to go through the proposed solutions listed above. "Represent us"!!

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Sonal Patel at September 12, 2018 at 12:13pm EDT

I completely agree with Ngoc Hulbig for Providence Commons Community. We have been here 20 years now, and my son started middle school this year. We understand that WCPSS is doing what it can to fulfill the demands of the growing population but WCPSS has to adhere to maintain the Four Pillars for its current students and should not destabilize and send them to far off schools when we have a school less than a mile from our house...just so they can make room for new students in developing communities. Please look into the possible solutions offered by satellite zoning and satellite nodes to place students where needed and avoid further crowding of West Cary schools until new schools are built. Satellite zoning preserves the Stability pillar for both existing and future students, as future students from a new neighborhood all will attend the same satellite school until a new school is built in closer proximity. Please let us keep DDMS as our neighborhood school.

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Sarah Deeb at September 12, 2018 at 2:09pm EDT

I would like to thank you and the WCPSS Board for taking the time to listen to our suggestions regarding school reassignment. I truly believe that parents, and school board officials need to work together to solve such monumental issues. In that spirit of collaboration, I would like to offer the following suggestions.

  1. The affected neighborhoods of Preston Forest, Providence Commons, Arlington Ridge, Fenton Estates, and Stonegate Sherborne have a combined 515 homes. Instead of reassigning these nearby neighborhoods that have been aligned with Davis Drive Middle School since their inception, please consider reassigning the new development of Muirfield (located off of High House rd, east of Davis Drive, north of High House), as well as the newer development of Bradford ( located next to Muirfield). Those two developments alone are comprised of 450 homes. Both Bradford, and Muirfield are currently assigned to West Cary Middle School, with no ties Davis Drive. There is no reason to remove our students from Davis Drive and jeopardize their Stability , and Student Achievement, to hold seats for homes that haven't even been built yet. I agree that this west to east movement of students is contrary to the need to relieve over crowding in western Cary.

  2. Consinder the impending growth of downtown Cary. The new development of Fenton alone will bring over 800 new homes, and will be located directly across the street from East Cary Middle School. This will provide organic growth/enrollment for East Cary Middle School. Reduce ECMS to three tracks until Fenton , and other developments are built. This will maximize resources, thereby increasing Operational Efficiency. Once that development is complete, you will be telling our children to move again.

3.Designate all new developments as "Satellite Schools" until planned new schools can be completed in the coming years. This will allow for the rapid western growth, maintain Stability for our students, and families. This will also position new western neighborhoods in Close Proximity to the new schools being planned. Please take all of our suggestions seriously. Thank You

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Jennifer Charney at September 13, 2018 at 7:17am EDT

I agree with the suggestions made by Sarah Deeb. Keep our neighborhoods at DDMS and reassign Bradford and Muirfield. These neighborhoods are new or currently under construction and are currently assigned to WCMS. We have lived in Arlington Ridge neighborhood for 16 years and my son is in 6th grade at DDMS. This proposal goes against the stability and proximity pillars. Please consider these suggestions put forward by the stakeholders and parents.

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