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UPDATE NOV. 20 

The Board of Education approved the 2019-20 Student Enrollment Plan. There were no substantial changes affecting current students from the previous board meeting, which can be found below. The Board did approve assignment changes to some undeveloped areas of the county. Thank you to everyone who participated in this process. Find your base school assignment and your application school options for the 2019-20 school year. Please note the address look-up tool has not yet been updated to include changes to school assignments for some undeveloped areas. 

If you have any questions, please contact the Student Assignment Office at 919-431-7333 or find the Student Assignment representative for your area.

Board members indicated support for a number of changes during discussions yesterday. Here is a summary. Please note that the address look-up does not yet reflect these changes. The board will have one more discussion on Nov. 20 and then vote on a final plan.

  • Students who live in the Parkside Elementary base attendance area and who currently attend Hortons Creek Elementary, Green Hope Elementary or Weatherstone Elementary would be eligible to grandfather and stay at their current school through the exit grade as transfer students.
  • Students assigned to Parkside Elementary would be able to apply to attend Pleasant Grove Elementary as a traditional calendar application student. They would be eligible for neighborhood bus transportation.
  • Students assigned to Parkside Elementary can apply to attend Powell Elementary, Ligon Middle as one of their magnet school options. They would be eligible for express bus transportation.
  • The MacArthur Park area would remain at Green Hope High School.
  • Rising 7th and 8th graders reassigned from an existing school to an existing school (i.e. Reedy Creek Middle to East Cary Middle) would be eligible to grandfather and stay through the exit grade, as would any rising 6th grade siblings.
  • Rising 8th graders assigned to Alston Ridge Middle would be eligible to grandfather. Their 7th grade siblings could also grandfather AND stay through the exit grade. Their sixth grade siblings would still only be allowed to stay for one year.
  • Students affected by calendar application school changes would be eligible to grandfather and stay at their current school through the exit grade.
    Swift Creek Elementary and Yates Mill Elementary base families will now have one year-round application school for their address (Adams Elem. or Oak Grove Elem.) The choice will depend on where they live.
  • Dillard Drive Middle base families will be able to apply to Lufkin Road Middle or North Garner Middle (depending on their address).
  • West Cary Middle base families will be able to apply to Salem Middle or Alston Ridge Middle (depending on their address).
  • Staff is bringing a separate presentation to the Nov. 20th work session to provide information to the Board regarding the southern area of the Mills Park Middle base area and the possible use of satellite assignment areas.
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Andrea Short 4 months ago

A couple of questions/points:

(1) Can you explain how these two proposals work together? •Rising 8th graders assigned to Alston Ridge Middle would be eligible to grandfather. Their 7th grade siblings could also grandfather AND stay through the exit grade. Their sixth grade siblings would still only be allowed to stay for one year. •Students affected by calendar application school changes would be eligible to grandfather and stay at their current school through the exit grade.

For example, Carpenter Village is currently assigned to DDMS (traditional) as our base, with ECMS as a calendar application school. The plan assigns us to ARMS (proposed to be YR), with WCMS as a calendar application school. Does the rule about ARMS grandfathering trump the other grandfathering principles (which are more generous)?

Also, how does this work for families who are being moved from one calendar to another, when their current base (not calendar application school) is no longer even a calendar application school?

This could be resolved for Carpenter Village by making DDMS our calendar application school under the new plan. Many residents of our neighborhood have been asking for this on these forums, and several neighbors spoke at last night's meeting. Even so, it seems the message is not getting through that CV wants to maintain DDMS as its traditional calendar option middle school. Please consider this change as well.

(2) With the desire for Cameron Pond families to stay at Mills Park schools that I have concern about Carpenter Elementary, where two of my children attend. We are losing many families to reassignment to ARES or Parkside. If those families aren't replaced, what happens to the projections of enrollment at Carpenter? Is there any consideration to making Carpenter a traditional-calendar school, which would likely stem the tide of requests to transfer out of Carpenter in favor of traditional-calendar schools (requests which are almost never granted)?

(3) I continue to be troubled by the lack of willingness to examine Mills Park's calendar. It seems clear to me as an observer that although the families at Mills Park "prefer" traditional, so do most other families in western Wake County. Has the Board or staff ever surveyed families to see if they would prefer to be moved to a different school OR be able to stay at Mills Park under a YR calendar? It would be helpful to have that data prior to the announcement of an assignment plan that essentially picks "winners" and "losers". Furthermore, if Mills Park's calendar were changed, it would provide some much-needed stability even beyond those schools, to those of us who had no input in that decision and no real opportunity for our children to attend traditional calendar schools at all.

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Matt Dees admin 4 months ago

"For example, Carpenter Village is currently assigned to DDMS (traditional) as our base, with ECMS as a calendar application school. The plan assigns us to ARMS (proposed to be YR), with WCMS as a calendar application school. Does the rule about ARMS grandfathering trump the other grandfathering principles (which are more generous)?" It's not a matter of trump. It's two different circumstances. Those affected by calendar application changes refers to those currently attending a calendar application school that is being removed as an option for their area. The other refers to those who are being assigned to the new middle school. Hope that makes sense.

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Andrea Short 4 months ago

Hi Matt, Thanks for the response. What about a student that met both circumstances (assigned to ARMS AND losing a calendar application option)? Are there any students in this situation? Which rule would apply to those students?

Either way, I'm not sure I understand the fairness of this proposal anyway. It treats students who have received calendar transfers more favorably than those whose BASE calendar is changing as a result of reassignment to ARMS. So WCPSS is telling us that not only are we being removed from our base school (that's not even being offered currently as a calendar option) to a school on a different calendar but that our kids can't grandfather when they could grandfather IF they'd been calendar transfer students whose calendar option was changing. This seems to have the effect of penalizing our kids for having actually attended our base school.

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Matt Dees admin 4 months ago

It applies to families affected by the changes indicated on pages 9-16 here.

https://www.wcpss.net/cms/lib/NC01911451/Centricity/Domain/6073/Nov%207%20work%20session%20Draft%203%20discussion.pdf

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Matt Dees admin 4 months ago

This is a relatively small number of students, which why it is feasible to offer them grandfathering, especially as many of these changes are to improve transportation efficiency. (Grandfathered students don't receive transportation, as you probably know.) The decisions are made based on what board members feel we can accommodate and maintain healthy school populations at all schools. No one is trying to "penalize" any student or family.

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Sue Creaser 4 months ago

Hi Matt, I see the update "The MacArthur Park area would remain at Green Hope High School." We are in the Bond Pointe neighborhood directly across the street and we have the same assignments currently. Does this update include our neighborhood as well? We are a smaller neighborhood but just as concerned and are hoping this is the case, thank you!

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Allieon Del 4 months ago

This new grandfathering for calendar option students is amazing. Please pass this portion. We want to stay at Oak Grove

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Mr SA 4 months ago

Hi Matt. On the Draft 3 "WCPSS Address Lookup" it states "The schools listed here for Draft 3 do not reflect changes from the November 7 Board of Education meeting. Please check back for updates." What about the changes that were made and voted on in the work session on October 30th? Why have those changes not been reflected when looking up address assignments? Specifically, it was voted in that meeting that a neighborhood that was being reassigned to Apex HS would now remain at Green Hope High School. When will this cancelled reassignment be reflected in the address lookup? Thanks!

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Vishnu Aljapur 4 months ago

""""Students who live in the Parkside Elementary base attendance area and who currently attend Hortons Creek Elementary, Green Hope Elementary or Weatherstone Elementary would be eligible to grandfather and stay at their current school through the exit grade as transfer students.""

Kids who currently attend Cedar Fork Creek Elementary School cannot grand father in the similar way like other affected schools until their exit grade? Can you kindly help us understand why can't cedar fork also be in the same boat. Thanks Vishnu

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Vijay Shenoy 4 months ago

Vishnu, that is a very good question.... I too am wondering why are Cedar Fork Elementary students singled out from being grandfathered.

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Susan Nagorski 4 months ago

Hi, If our base school is now Carpenter Elementary (where my kids go now), and will be reassigned to Parkside Elementary, will I have the option to apply for them (they are in K and 3rd) to be grandfathered into Carpenter? There is some confusion on this topic.

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Vijay Shenoy 4 months ago

Cedar Fork Students need to be grandfathered just like students from Hortons Creek Elementary, Green Hope Elementary or Weatherstone Elementary. From the perspective of families of students attending Cedar Fork elementary there has been not attempt made to provide relief to us from Draft 1 to Draft 3. Since we have no representation from District 7 on the WCPSS board, I strongly suggest the WCPSS board to allow us to grandfather our kids currently attending Cedar Fork elementary, or defer the transfer of our kids from Cedar Fork Elementary (traditional) to Parkside Elementary (year round) till next fall. In that time we will have got to know our district 7 representative on the WCPSS board and convince them to get us a better deal from someone who truly represents our interests and community.

Grand Father Cedar Fork Students OR Defer moving Cedar Fork kids to Parkside till we get proper representation on the WCPSS Board.

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Emanuela Prister 4 months ago

"Students affected by calendar application school changes would be eligible to grandfather and stay at their current school through the exit grade. Swift Creek Elementary and Yates Mill Elementary base families will now have one year-round application school for their address (Adams Elem. or Oak Grove Elem.) The choice will depend on where they live." does it mean that I can apply to keep my child at Oak Grove Elementary which was our "year round application school" and where she is currently? Where do I find information on the windows on grandfathering? Your site says the window is from "late November until Early December and there are no links, no dates, no info. Who do I apply for grandfathering and to make sure my child stays at her school? How do I apply, when, where? Today is November 20 and you should have an answer for us but there are no answer just more confusion.

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Emanuela Prister 4 months ago

is there a meeting today that we can attend?

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Matt Dees admin 4 months ago

We don't know the exact date of the grandfathering period yet. We will email and call everyone who is eligible to grandfather in plenty of time for you to submit your application. All eligible students who make a grandfathering request will be approved. Grandfathered students are not eligible for district transportation. The board is having a work session now and a regular board meeting that starts at 5:30, where they are expected to vote on the final plan. We will update the website with any changes.

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Allieon Del 4 months ago

How does the grandfather policy apy to siblings?

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