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The school board approved the majority of the 2018-19 Enrollment Plan on Dec. 5 but decided to delay a decision about assignment decisions related to the new Buckhorn Creek Elementary for further discussion.

They will meet on Wednesday at 3 p.m. to discuss.

A final vote on Buckhorn Creek Elementary is expected on Dec. 19.

Buckhorn Creek Elementary is slated to open in August 2018 at 5651 Honeycutt Road, Holly Springs, as a traditional calendar school.

 

It is slated to draw some students who currently attend Herbert Akins Elementary, Fuquay-Varina Elementary, Holly Grove Elementary and Lincoln Heights Elementary.

 

Please leave your feedback about this proposal below.

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Karen Austin 5 months ago

If you're going to pull 85% of children from a year round school to form a new school, then it only makes sense to make that new school year round also. Why create chaos in so many lives but forcing families to switch schools AND calendars?

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Tyson Franks 5 months ago

Hoping that my family is not uprooted from HARES. The draft 3 proposal takes us from being at HARES for 7 years, and moves 2 out of 3 of my children to Traditional calendar at LHES. WE ARE THRIVING AT HARES &HGMS=YEAR ROUND CALENDARS. We live in Springhill subdivision and are still slated for HGMS, a YR school for my 3rd child. Leaving me with 2 separate calendars. Please consider BCES for YR calendar. Please consider community. Please consider the booming growth of this area and how BCES can facilitate that growth as a YR school.
Please consider the disruption to the children/families thriving on YR calendars.

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Emmy White 5 months ago

So many families have based their lives around which calendar option they prefer. My own family chose to buy a home zoned for a year round calendar because it is in the best interest of my rising 4th grader. She has been in the same school with a year round calendar and it has been very beneficial for her academically. I have no issue being rezoned from Herbert Akins to Buckhorn if we could keep a multi track calendar.

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Laura Bishop 5 months ago

I would first like to thank the board for continuing to discuss the Buckhorn Creek assignment plan and to listen to the community’s feedback. I am very relieved that the vote has been delayed pending further information about some alternate options for assignments. Watching the board meeting, I was encouraged by the suggestions of Mr. Fletcher, Ms. Cash and Ms. Mahaffey to look into the possibility of BCES being filled primarily from currently overcrowded traditional schools, and as a traditional calendar option.

My number 1 priority is for my kids to stay in year round schools through high school. We currently have K-8 alignment at HGES/HGMS and do not want to be forced into traditional for my elementary student. In researching the base and application areas according to Draft 3, I found that even with the opening of BCES, my child's current school, Holly Grove Elementary, is only reduced from 147% to 120% capacity. Utilizing the address lookup tool, I see that many new subdivisions currently under construction along Avent Ferry Rd. will be assigned to Holly Grove Elementary as a base. This includes The Mills at Avent Ferry (221 homes), Holly Pointe II (139 homes), Stonemont (141 homes) and Bridgeberry (338 homes). Additionally, all of the neighborhoods (new and existing) in the Avent Ferry area, still show Holly Ridge Elementary as their traditional calendar option. Why isn't BCES the new option for homes south/west of 55? If there really are many families who desire traditional calendars but have been unable to secure a seat, or desired a more proximate location, they could opt in to BCES and ease the over-crowding at Holly Grove, freeing up more seats for those of us who prefer to remain on year-round. (This was mentioned in the board meeting by Mr. Fletcher And Ms. Cash). If HGES is going to be capped for the foreseeable future anyway, please let it be capped inclusive of the current students who want to stay there. If someone must be turned away from HGES it should be the future residents of new neighborhoods. Please fill BCES and overflow schools that are further away with these families. They have the choice of making their residence decisions based on the knowledge of which proximate schools are capped or unavailable. We do not. Many of those families have probably not yet structured their lives around a year-round calendar, and may actually prefer a traditional calendar as you suggest many do.

I sincerely hope that the assignment staff can come up with a plan that pulls in students to fill BCES that want to be on a traditional calendar, and let those of us who are happy in YR to stay where we are. Thank you.

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Karen Austin 5 months ago

Excellent points! People bought their current homes based on the schools they were assigned. Why move them to open slots for people that haven't even moved here yet and purchased their homes?

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Jennifer Jones 5 months ago

I totally agree about the Traditional Option for Avent Ferry neighborhoods ! So dumb that it's still HRES!

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Laura Bishop 5 months ago

I think this could be a win/win. Dr. Martin and other members of the board kept mentioning the need for a traditional school in this area due to previous parent feedback and application requests they have been unable to accomodate. But that is not who they are planning to send to BCES in any of the drafts so far, but rather they reassigned a majority of families who prefer Year round! Address these issues, send people there who prefer traditional (they also mentioned overcrowded FVES) and let the rest of us stay at our year round options. In the future though, I think due to growth as well as academic benefits, they really need to reconsider the stance to move away from year round and only open traditional schools.

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Allison Ballantyne 5 months ago

We chose this area for the schools and truly enjoy the YR schedule that HGES provides. As two full-time working parents, we feel that it is best not only for our family but for our children academically. Please consider the wishes of our family and this amazing community by allowing those who want to stay on the YR schedule to stay put, or provide an option for a YR schedule at BCES. Thank you for your time, efforts, and consideration!

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Amanda Wogaman 5 months ago

I agree with all above. If you're going to open a new school to help with over crowding, why would you then cause another issue with not following the same calender?

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Nancy Wilms 5 months ago

I am so thrilled to hear that the board is actually considering feedback from parents and have not rushed to make a decision. As I've posted before, though I love HARES, I would have no problem with my children switching to a brand new school...as long as it's on a YR calendar. It's best for my kids, it's best for my family, and it's best for the teachers that will teach my children. Personally I don't like track 4, but if it won't be ready to open as a multi-track YR, then why not at least start with a track 4 calendar (so it's similar to traditional) while working to increase capacity as a multi-track? If not YR, then let those of us who want YR to stay at our YR schools.

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Kate Farrish 5 months ago

While we are not being moved to Buckhorn, we are in the surrounding area, and, therefore, affected as well. We are being uprooted from our YR base (HARES) and sent to a Trad base (LHES) per this new plan just like those being moved to Buckhorn. Our base MS remains YR. I wish I could understand the reasoning of this. Being taken from the closest school to my house and changing/misaligning base calendars in the process does not make sense. The sheer amount of paperwork for transfers and applications this is going to cause also makes no sense. Buckhorn needs to be filled, but why the shifting between HARES and LHES. We are not the only ones being shifted. Some people are being shifted from LHES TO HARES. Again, please explain the reasoning for the juggling act. Neighborhoods are being swapped from their closest elementary to ones further away. Hearing that there is still a calendar option or transfer application is meaningless. You are swapping families between schools and creating mountains of paperwork for all those involved. We chose a house with a YR base because that is what we wanted for our children and what many others wanted in our neighborhood. Those who want traditional, can buy a house with a traditional base. Moving families around after the fact is unnecessary and is only to further the school systems agenda and does not take into account the best interests of our children.

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Karen Austin 5 months ago

Yes to all of this!!! This is our current situation as well. Being moved from HARES, where we've been assigned since it opened, to LHES [calendar change AND further away], while students from LHES are being moved to HARES [calendar change and further away]. LHES is the THIRD furthest school for us. Why would we be moved to a school further away than three schools AND forced into a calendar change? The Springhill and Sandy Springs subdivisions should be zoned back to HARES as their base calendar.

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Amanda Wogaman 5 months ago

I agree with being zoned back to HARES, I don't understand why all the cross crossing?? It sounds like an added headache , more traffic, and unnecessary. We bought our house based on HARES and I would prefer not to uproot my family for this decision.

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Adam Cole 5 months ago

I cannot express how happy I was to see Ms. Mahaffey bring up the motion to separate the Buckhorn creek portion of the assignment plan from the rest and allow further discussion on the topic. I was also very intrigued by the idea brought forth by Ms. Mahaffey, Ms. Cash and Mr. Fletcher to let Buckhorn be filled with students currently in traditional schools and applications from students currently in multi-track schools who want traditional. This seems to hit all of the concerns I've been seeing on these forums and at public meetings. If this idea is adopted:

1) Most families would not be impacted unless they chose to be. Those that would be moved by assignment and not application would already be on traditional calendars and already in the area. No bussing across town and no disruption of family routines.

2) It fulfills the need for a traditional calendar option and caters specifically to those who want that option. Dr. Martin has brought up time and time again that he hears a need for traditional calendars based on 2013 data. If BCES opens traditional and is filled with current traditional kids as well as those who want traditional calendars, the need is better met and less families are impacted.

Hopefully the 2016 data that Dr. Martin requested will continue to support this idea like the 2015 data he referenced at the meeting did. Upwards of 300 applications were submitted to attend traditional schools from multi-track schools in our area. That nearly covers the more than 300 multi-track students that were slated to be moved to Buckhorn.

This plan more than satisfies my personal wants and addresses so many of the complaints and concerns I've read on these forums from others. Our children get to stay where they are currently thriving if we want them to and the ones that want to move are much more easily able to do so (as opposed to us multi-trackers having to apply back to a multi-track school). I hope this idea or one with similar outcomes moves forward and gets board approval!

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Kristin Goins 5 months ago

We are currently at HARES with a rising 2nd Grader with a little brother to start elementary school in 2019. We absolutely love the year round calendar for our family. My husband and I both work full time and the 3 week trackouts work with our family schedule. We vote Buckhorn as year round, of grandfather our family at HARES.

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Karen Austin 5 months ago

Everyone is talking about the 355 students going from HARES [YR] and HGES [YR] to BCES [proposed Trad]. What about all of the families going from LHES [Trad] to HAREs [YR], HARES [YR] to LHES [Trad], FVES [YR] to HARES [YR]. Can they also be left alone in the school of their choice? These changes are such an unnecessary disruption to families' lives along with added traffic with students criss crossing paths to go to schools further away.

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Adam Cole 5 months ago

All of those schools were also part of the discussion last night, Karen. Mr. Fletcher called out most all of those traditional schools in Fuquay when making his point about keeping those kids in traditional schools. The whole point is to take into account a students current calendar when considering new assignments. Hope that helps!

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Karen Austin 5 months ago

Yes, I watched the meeting and heard his comments. I want to make sure this sentiment does not get lost with all of the messages to have BCES open as YR. I am not nearly as impacted by BCES opening as YR vs Traditional as much as I am impacted by moving students from one calendar to another.

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Adam Cole 5 months ago

Rock on, Karen. I agree with you and think that is a lot of parents' concern. You like traditional and we like year round and forcing any of us to change when there is a possible option for us not to makes little sense

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Cassie Coley 5 months ago

If Buckhorn absolutely cannot be YR please allow families who are currently in YR schools to stay in our current schools and on our current calendars!

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Hannah Cole 5 months ago

I am thankful that the board is hearing the overwhelming concerns parents in our area have about the reassignment plan presented for Buckhorn Elementary. We currently have a kindergartner at HGES and we are very happy there. We love that we can walk to our school, we love our teachers and the community there, and above all else we love being on a year-round calendar. I went to the first year-round school in wake county the year it opened and experienced the benefits first-hand, and I want my children to experience it as well. Not to mention what a life-saver it is for a family with two working parents to be able to spread out the costs of childcare over track-outs. We do not want to leave our current school. If Buckhorn cannot be opened on a year round calendar please let the current year round students stay where they are and fill Buckhorn with students whose families actually want a traditional calendar and new residents who will not be impacted by a calendar change. With all the construction in our area and the number of people who requested to be transferred to traditional calendar schools last year, filling Buckhorn this way shouldn't be a problem in the slightest. You could keep parents happy and save hundreds of students the stress of moving schools and adjusting to new calendars when it's truly not necessary. I hope that you will listen to parents and allow them to stay at their current year round schools.

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Elisabeth Anderson 5 months ago

THANK YOU, Board, for proving that you are indeed listening to community feedback, and taking the time to consider creative assignment options before rushing to a vote on this matter last night! I have been a proponent of opening Buckhorn Creek on a year round calendar. This is simply because as a parent and a former WCPSS teacher, I am a strong advocate for YR schooling. I have seen its benefits with the children I taught as well as with my own children. I have no qualms about being moved to a new school- I do, however, feel extreme disappointment at being forced to give up the YR calendar. If the outcry of the forced calendar change is an indication of what is to be expected at school application time, there is no way to seat so many children being forced out of HGES/HAES back into their YR calendar option schools. HOWEVER, if BCES indeed opens on a traditional calendar, and there is in fact a need for traditional seats on our side of the county, it makes perfect sense to fill that school with students either coming from a traditional calendar school or students who have been looking for a traditional calendar seat and been unable to secure one. This seems like a win for all involved parties. Students who are happy with their current YR school can stay where they are, and those who desire a traditional calendar can apply to fill the seats at BCES. In addition to these steps, it would also make sense for all students on the west side of 55 who currently have Holly Ridge Elementary as their traditional calendar option now be given BCES as their traditional option. This area of town already has several large neighborhoods, and is growing at an extremely rapid pace, with at least four new subdivisions currently under construction. There must be a large number of students here that may appreciate a more proximate traditional option. I implore the board to give this option very serious thought. I thank Mr. Fletcher and Ms. Cash for bringing this idea to light last night, and I thank Ms. Mahaffey for calling for this section of the reassignment plan to be removed from last night's vote for further discussion!

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Alisa Jardin 5 months ago

We moved to Fuquay Varina from CT over 12 years ago. We are happy to call Wake County and FV our home and hope that you will listen to the majority of parents that have called, emailed and posted here. I've recently learned that it is actually possible for you to open Buckhorn Creek as year round as it will be finished in early July. Please! This area is growing so fast, and besides that it's what we want. If this is truly not possible, then please allow us to stay on our current calendar. My Daughter is thriving in year round at HARES and with the recent changes will be switched to traditional. We all know how difficult it is for both parents and staff to deal with applications, the least amount of changes works in both our favors. Thank you for all of your time, I trust you will all make the best decision for the children.

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Kelly Casselman 5 months ago

I'd like to thank the board for delaying the vote to gather additional information. I appreciate you listening to this feedback from us. I’m a single mother of rising 3rd grader at HARES and live in the Sandy Springs neighborhood which is slated to move to LHES if Draft 3 is approved as written. My number 1 priority is for my son to stay in year round schools until high school. We currently have K-8 alignment at HARES/HGMS and do not want to be forced into traditional calendar. With the proposed move to LHES, I will lose my child care and have to spend time and money I don't have to look for a new child care facility. I will also lose my current custody agreement with my son's father of every other weekend and 2 weeks during track out and will have to spend more time and money to go back to court to have this rewritten. I realize these hardships will make me a good candidate for a calendar transfer or hardship transfer, but with the way Draft 3 is proposed, it would fill HARES to capacity and I don't want to gamble on finding a place for my son to keep our year round schedule! I also don't want him going to a different school from his neighborhood friends to which he is close. Through my neighborhood’s Facebook page, town page, and our Nextdoor app, it is overwhelmingly clear that a majority of Sandy Springs, Park Grove, and Springhill neighborhood residents want to stay year around. I’m begging you to please listen to our feedback and keep us at HARES. This is the ideal solution for our neighborhoods. If for some reason this is not possible, then please make BCES year round so we have another year round option near us for a calendar transfer. I would still lose my child care, but at least I could keep the schedule that my family has built their lives around. If both options are possible, I think it would greatly benefit this area of Wake County that clearly loves the year round schedule and require more options for year round enrollment. LHES would be a great option for families that want to remain on traditional schedule as a calendar transfer.

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Jayne Baker 5 months ago

Please provide our community's 84% of year round children a viable option to remain on their year round calander.

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Courtney Rousseau 5 months ago

I believe that it is clear that most parents in the vicinity of BCES who are getting reassigned there from year-round schools would prefer to either: 1)stay at their current year-round school, where they already occupy a seat; and 2) If they must be moved, then make BCES a year round school, so that calendars will not be affected. It CAN be done. Many folks from the community have already presented the board members with ideas on how to get it done. In addition, BCES's substantial completion date will arrive just in time to open as a year-round school. If BCES is to remain on the traditional calendar as previously planned (despite all logical arguments to the contrary), then send the overflow kids there from other traditional schools, as well as kids from the newest developments that are just coming into the area, as they will not yet have put down 'roots' at a school and planned their lives around that calendar. Thank you to the board for continuing to read the feedback submitted by the community on this issue.

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Crystal Treece 5 months ago

I have little hope that my neighborhood, Summerdale, will be allowed to remain at our current base school, HARES. Our reassignment to LHES has not changed since the first draft. Most of the families here are working class, lower income and lack the advantages of spare time to protest the reassignment or the clout of a wealthier neighborhood. As it stands, my special needs son will have to readjust to a new school, a new calendar, and new spec. Ed. teachers. This will cause significant disruption in our family, but I understand we are insignificant in the big picture. And when he gets to middle school, we will get to switch calendars again, at which time I will still have my other 3 children at traditional calendar. If anyone at WCPSS reads this discussion, please consider the real children who are impacted by your decisions. I hope you might consider allowing those who wish to remain at the base calendar option school to stay, along with their siblings who will be entering school. Please empower parents to make the best decision for their children.

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Tyson Franks 5 months ago

Was informed that BCES can be ready week of July 3rd. 7 months away, and yet still being told it cannot be ready. When the vast majority are being ripped from their community YR base schools and are pleading to stay YR--why is this happening?

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Julie Rockefeller 5 months ago

I was at the last board meeting and heard board members say that the decision to open BCES on a traditional calendar was based on feedback from parents taken 5 years ago. I'm writing here to let you know that I was probably one of those parents. I don't recall being asked, but I remember calling my mother to complain, talking with friends on traditional and year round calendars, etc. I also remember a hard sell trying to convince us that year round was best for our kids and our teachers, who would not get burned out by the end of the school year. I remember staring to think that maybe it wouldn't be so bad after all. I was sold. I bought the pitch and choose Herbert Akins because it was our year round option, at the time. My son is now in 3rd grade. My daughter is in kindergarten. Year Round had caused a great deal of inconvenience, because we're on track 3, which doesn't align well with out of state family members, but I would still do it all over again. We love it. My son has thrived and my daughter is loving school and track out camp. They have made friends they only see on track out and just when they start to fight the nightly homework, they get a break. So, while I would have supported this plan 5 years ago, I am wholeheartedly against changing the calendars for hundreds of kids and families who have grown up with the expectation of being year round until high school... Thank you for your time. Please feel free to contact me to discuss further at the email address associated with this account.

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Nykoll Long 5 months ago

We were very excited to hear Mr. Fletcher’s discussion at the school board meeting on December 5 about keeping children on their current calendars while allowing families who would like a traditional schedule to apply to attend Buckhorn Creek. This seems like a win-win solution. We are one of the families that are currently in a multi-track school (HARES) that would like to switch to a traditional calendar. We value being able to attend a neighborhood school and having calendar alignment between elementary and middle schools, which will happen for us with Buckhorn Creek opening as a traditional school. If this plan is approved, we will be applying for our two children to attend Buckhorn Creek on a traditional schedule.

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Char Abernethy 5 months ago

I’m a 17-year resident of Holly Springs and a single mother of two children at Herbert Akins. I find that YR works well for my kids academically and also eases some of the financial burden of child care by spreading it out over the course of the year. It allows us to take vacations off-season when it’s cheaper and less crowded. And my kids are able to spend more one-on-one time with their dad during track out. There has been a lot of great discussion and idea sharing over the last couple of months in regards to the opening of BHES. At the end of the day most parents just want consistency and stability for their kids. To that end, I am advocating for my kids and my family and petitioning the school board to make decisions that enable our kids to stay on their current calendar. It is concerning to hear comments made about data from five years ago in light of the massive growth that has occurred in this area over the last five years. I would urge the board to conduct a poll to collect current data so that you can make informed decisions. I feel this can be done easily through the schools that currently seat out children. It would be good to have current statistics when planning and building new schools in this area. I personally would like to see BHES opened as a multi-track YR school; however, if that is not possible, or if there is truly a need for another traditional calendar ES in this area (and I’m not convinced there is), I would like for my kids to stay at HARES and then go to HGMS without having to fight denied applications. Many thanks for your consideration! Char A

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Amanda Liimatainen 5 months ago

I am pleased with the carve out and delay of vote regarding BCES and the areas it affects. I continue to be disappointed in reasons provided for denying consideration of opening Year round. 1) Wake County wants traditional and we're opening all elementary schools traditional calendar. No survey has been conducted of the communities affected. The data is based on 2013 or older information and despite requests we've not been provided with supporting data. 2) BCES cannot be completed in time to open Year Round. This is false. The community has provided solutions to do so. And we've learned that the substantial completion date is July 3, 2018. In fact, it can open year round on time with minimal disruptions.

84‰of proposed population requires a calendar change. Even if some amount of these families want a change, the decision to disrupt the majority of calendars is unnecessary and concerning.
The movement of students from HARES(YR) to BCES traditional is causing additional moves into HARES (YR) from LHES (Trad). And pull of some HARES (YR) students to LHES(Trad) Sandy Springs, Spring Fields, and Springhill subdivisions will move from HARES to LHES (creating middle school misalignment). Parker point will move from LHES to HARES (criss crossing the previous example) again creating calendar misalignment for middle school. This is the same situation for people moving from HGES and HARES to BCES if opened traditional. We then have middle school misalignment in the majority of cases. This does not mean we're requesting change to our middle schools, as previously suggested. And many would prefer not bring up the misalignment for fear of middle school changes being suggested as in initial Draft 3.
BCES should be opened year round. Families should have choice in keeping their current calendar assignment. If BCES must be opened traditional then families in every situation should be grandfathered, and it should be opened for application for those that want traditional calendar.
The 2nd sounds great, but still doesn't solve the capacity issues that our schools will continue to have due to growth and the lack of full disclosure information sharing.
Additionally, I'm hesitant to vote for a bond with the current board in place that didn't find out what the community needs were prior to spending bond money.

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Melanie Murdock 5 months ago

I want to say thank you to the board for not voting on Buckhorn Creek Elementary assignment until more information is gathered. I am very happy to see the board listening to the feedback that the parents and community are posting. The goal is to ensure every kid has the best quality education and families are not disrupted as the reassignments are made.

I personally want to say thank you to Ms. Mahaffey, Ms. Cash and Mr. Fletcher for understanding the community, parents and the kids that this reassignment affects. The data that is being used to make the decision about what calendar options the community wants is out date. Yes we are all Wake county schools but what works for community A doesn’t work for community B. If we are going to go to a one size fits all kind of theory I am sorry to say that the board is not serving its constituents.

As I watched the board meeting where the reassignments were discussed and the number came out that 84% of the kids being transferred to Buckhorn Creek (traditional calendar) were being taken from year round I couldn’t comprehend the reasoning behind the reassignment. Why didn’t the board realize this isn’t right when drawing the lines around who was going to Buckhorn Creek? I have so many questions on the basis.

As a parent whose children are in a year round school I think I speak for hundreds of families, we love year round and want to stay where we are. In our situation, our base school is a traditional calendar so when we registered our children for kindergarten we registered them at their base school, waited for the window to open so we could apply for year round calendar then applied. We were accepted and the kids are doing excellent. So, why in the world would the board think we (and other families in the same situation) would want to go back to a base school that has a traditional calendar when we already went down that road and choose to be on a year round calendar? Let us stay where we are now.

I agree with the posts on here on how to fill Buckhorn and I have even suggested some of these options in early forums.

  1. It appears Oakview ES (traditional calendar) is already over capacity and they had to place trailers on campus to accommodate the extra capacity. Why isn’t Buckhorn Creek ES used as Oakview ES overflow school?

  2. The students who want a traditional option should be able to apply to Buckhorn and be moved. If you are currently at a year round school and want to stay there you don’t do anything, you are staying there. I would think this would cut down on paper work and time for the people processing all of these applications.

  3. Fill the school with future and existing families in the area who want traditional calendar. If it only took 2 years for Oakview ES to be over capacity I am sure Buckhorn will be filled in 2 years as well.

I looked forward to hearing the decision made on December 19th about Buckhorn Creek ES.

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Shalyse Clayton 4 months ago

Thank you for delaying the decision on BCES, and the surrounding elementary schools, to allow us to share our views once more.

We are in Park Grove Neighborhood in Fuquay. We have always had our base school as Lincoln Heights, however almost everyone in our neighborhood has chosen to attend Herbert Akins and loves it there (atleast 14+ out of about 17-18 total elementary school age kids that I am aware of (that's only a few kids attending Lincoln Heights, a small percentage)). We would like to have our base school changed to Herbert Akins, even though it creates a calendar misalignment. We like the year round calendar for our Elementary School children. It shouldn't be too hard to fit them in at Herbert Akins, especially when only 2 of those 14 kids will be in the K-3 grade range. Our neighborhood is right outside of the current boundaries you were looking at for HARES. It is the closest school to our neighborhood, which should be a big factor in your decision. I think the priority should go to those who already attend, whether or not it was our base school, who have taken the time and effort to transfer their kids there and support the school over the years. Please consider it. Thank you.

If it is impossible to change our base school to Herbert Akins, then please consider changing our base school to Buckhorn Creek. I don't mind if it is on the Traditional or Year Round Schedule, and would be happy to attend the new school, which would allow for many of the Lincoln Heights, that would be moved to BCES, to stay at their school, which they currently enjoy.

Please consider moving Park Grove to Herbert Akins base or Buckhorn Creek Base. Thanks for considering.

The Claytons

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Colleen Moody 4 months ago

Thank you for delaying the decision about Buckhorn. You’ve heard the continual feedback. Buckhorn needs to be year-round. It’s going to be disruptive to so many - 84% of the families- to move to traditional. Our family has built our life around year-round. We can have good quality family time during track-outs that we can’t do in the summer due to my husband’s career. We get to have time with extended family that is so very precious with aging parents ! Our son is thriving in year-round - he asks to go back to school ! He likes the small breaks. If Buckhorn can’t be year-round then please consider filling Buckhorn with current traditional families and not force such a dramatic change for so many year-round families. Please do the right thing for our communities!!!

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Donna Banham 4 months ago

Our family has thrived in a YR schedule. There's no denying that children excel and retain more in a YR academic environment. Our family is not unhappy about moving schools. We are unhappy about the calendar being Traditional. We very much appreciate the Board for taking the time to review, listen, investigate, etc. Please open BCES as YR, using whatever creative adjustments that are necessary. It makes sense and down the road will probably make even more sense. We'll gladly move to BCES as YR, no question. If Traditional, then we're forced to flood the channels with requests to stay where we are. Thanks so much for your consideration.

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Amy McGovern 4 months ago

We have lived in Holly Springs for 6 years and next year will have a rising kindergartener. We do not have a current student in WCPSS, but have been vocal on behalf of our son’s future, our neighbors and our community. With the immense growth that is happening in Holly Springs, BCES needs to open as a year-round school. If it opens a traditional calendar school, it will fill up quickly, and then where will you seat the students? Will you rezone our children again in another year or two? Will you push our kids to schools that are further away? Since the release of Draft 1, we have asked for data to back up your decisions - the school system has not done their due diligence in meeting our requests to review the data until your discussion at the last school board meeting. I am asking that you reconsider making this school a traditional calendar school and that you instead designate it as year-round school. A year-round school can house more students, and as it is Holly Springs is experiencing immense growth with new, and very large neighborhoods, with hundreds and hundreds of new homes being built within the area that will attend this school. The school board believes that parents are against year-round schools, yet year-round schools in our area are over capacity. Every parent that I have spoken to loves the year-round option, and has built their lives around the year-round calendar. The year-round calendar allows for more student to attend the school, and it keeps the students engaged in learning - keeping learning up, and keeping students from learning setbacks due to long summer breaks. The year-round option is also very good for our local economy, which helps to increase the tax base, and as a result filter more funds to the schools. There are numerous businesses that have developed business lines which specifically cater to students who are on year-round schedules. Making this school a traditional school will have a direct and negative impact our students, our families and the economy. The school board would rather add trailers to school campuses than enact a year-round calendar; and to me this is a dangerous and risky preference. The trailers that are used in Wake County schools, lack security and adequate safety plans. They are not secure and the students who attend class inside those trailers are sitting ducks in the event of an active shooter scenario or a natural disaster. I have lost faith in the school board and the competency of the WCPSS. I have no confidence that if my son started kindergarten with WCPSS that he will not me shuffled from school to school every few years. We want academic consistency, and the plan that you are offering is inconsistent and not looking to the future. We have also been hearing from parents that their discouragement in your leadership will force their hand that that they will vote against the upcoming school construction bond – as they do not believe you are making sound decisions that effectively use current funds. While I personally do not agree with voting against upcoming bonds, I understand where their logic is coming from. A decision to open BCES as a traditional school could potentially cause the next bond to fail, and your current seating shortage could be dramatically impacted. As such, I ask that you kindly reconsider your calendar choice for this school and that you designate it as a year-round school.

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Giorgio Galante 4 months ago

One of the things that jumped out at me was Dr. Martin's claim that there is more demand for traditional (300+ applications vs an absurdly small # for YR) - I strongly disagree with that sentiment. One thing to consider when schools are capped (like HGES) is that parents are less likely to even bother applying - the school's capped, what's the point? Look, you can use statistics to make whatever argument you want to, so just don't B.S. us. If you're simply going through the motions so as to appear to "listen to the community", only to open Buckhorn as traditional anyway, stop wasting our collective time and resources so we can spend it more wisely in getting you out of office at election time. From what I can tell many of the board members are not representative of the people who elected them. Consider spending more time with your grandchildren.

Beyond that, the state of the assignment department is embarrassing. The fact that you have no systematic, modern way of surveying and monitoring the wishes of parents with regard to calendar option and school option is appalling. This area has tens (hundreds?) of thousands of software/computer-related professionals and we can smell technological incompetence a mile away - and let me tell you, it stinks to the heavens in here.

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Whitney Vargas 4 months ago

I live in Avocet subdivision and would prefer to stay at HGES/HGMS and still would urge you to open Buckhorn as YR. We've always had the option to go traditional and have chosen not to. If you take our YR option away, we will no longer have a choice because HGES will fill as it is currently at double capacity on every track. Sending my child across town into trailers, is not a viable option either. 84% of these students currently slated to fill Buckhorn are coming from YR and you have not surveyed those families to justify forcing them to a traditional calendar. Simply given this information, Buckhorn should be YR, otherwise please leave us be at our YR school and fill the school with new construction and traditional applications. Thank you.

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Amber Harrer 4 months ago

I want to first start by thanking the board for providing our a carve option at the most recent board meeting. I recognize the complexity of the situation and there being no easy solution. I also want to acknowledge the availability of members of the member to engage in these ongoing discussions via email, over the phone, and face-to-face. Sincerely, thank you. As I have in every forum, in countless emails to each member of the board, the Superintendent, Deputy Superintendent, Glenn Corrozza, commissioners, and others I felt would be able to advocate on behalf of our community, I'd like to once again ask, no beg, the board to vote to open Buckhorn as a YR school. If for some unknown and unclear reason that is impossible, we ask that students currently on a YR calendar be allowed to remain at their current school. Below are a few items for consideration: -The substantial completion date listed as 7.3.18, with substantial completion, by definition stating construction has been completed enough to allow for students to occupy the space. -Mr. Corrozza stated Holly Springs has out grown their projection numbers over the last few years, further demonstrating the need for additional elementary seats in Holly Springs. It is far more cost effective to run a school year-round than it is to buy land and build a new school or bus kids from all over. Opening BCES as YR could also alleviate some of the space challenges at Oak View, as many of those families would prefer YR and this could push out the need for trailers for a couple years. -Mr. Corrozza has also stated Buckhorn Creek was being opened to alleviate the extensive overcrowding at Holly Grove Elementary which has been capped for at least the last six years. Given the school is being built to support a YR school, a clear majority of the students being rezoned being on a YR calendar (84%), and BCES feeding into a YR middle school (we don't want this changed) it logically makes sense to open as a YR. Not to mention, Holly Springs does not have another elementary school coming on line any time in the next 5 years, yet FV has an additional elementary school opening in the next couple of years to support FV and Willow Springs, with that school being set to be traditional. -Dr. Martin has mentioned the application numbers for YR vs Traditional in HS. While those numbers seem accurate, it does not consider the fact that HGES has been capped for so long and parents don't apply. It also does not consider the number of families who were forced to change to a TR calendar when Oakview was opened. Many of those families pleaded with the board to open as YR as that was the schedule they were coming from, but were unsuccessful in their efforts. Oakview is now faced with overcrowding. Not because traditional is so popular, but because people were forced to change calendars and much like others, these families were denied into a YR school or were unable to provide their own transportation to a YR option and were forced to stay at their neighborhood school. -Mr. Agee, having worked in facilities for over 20 years, has stated on numerous occasions there is precedent to having a calendar change made at this point in the process, having successful transitioned other schools much further along than BCES is currently. -While I support Ms. Cash’s statement on student not being switch on calendars, I do not believe the ‘if you build it they will come approach’. As Ms. Cash stated, a poll/survey, should of be done and it is far too late in the game to get that information now. Preliminarily, we wanted to see what the response rate would be like in the event this were to occur and reached out to a page for the town of Holly Springs and asked parents if they would be willing to switch their children to a YR calendar (BCES) knowing their feeder school is HGMS. After being up for a day over a busy holiday weekend, we are currently at 65 families who would be unwilling to move to BCES on TR (these are folks currently on YR) and 11 families who would be willing. That is a 6 to 1 ratio and ultimately believe it does well represent our area in the county. -Assumptions, well you know what they say about assumptions. I have heard assumptions about the group from Lincoln Heights who are being impacted and having engaged with quite a few folks that are being rezoned, they couldn't be farther from the assumption. There are also assumptions being made about the families in Holly Springs with the word affluent being thrown around. I can tell you, having lived her for the last 7 1/2 years, we are working class (many consisting of two income families) who work to meet our obligations and appreciate the ability to spread out track out/summer camp payments throughout the year, rather than lump summing it over the summer. We also do a lot of co-ops amongst parent groups to keep those costs down. Moving us to a traditional calendar has a drastic impact on our families, not just from a time standpoint, but monetarily speaking, as well. -Family time - given the calendar misalignments, families are going to be extremely challenged to find time together. With a rising 4th grader entering middle school in two years, the following 7 years will lead to calendar misalignments for our family. This means we will have a total of two weeks a year that we can spend together. TWO WEEKS! It also means extended child care costs to consider. This isn't a single year impact and moving us to a TR calendar middle school that is across town (40-minute bus ride) will not solve this issue. -$1.98B bond up for vote in 2018. As I understand it, there are 14 new schools that will be financed by this bond and with or without those schools will be built; however, the bond makes them more cost effective to build. As a tax payer who has supported bond in the past, it will be difficult to support this bond or future bonds should BCES not open as YR or those currently not in YR allowed to stay. The voice of the Holly Springs community being impacted most by the BCES calendar have made their voice heard over and over again and appreciate the on-going discussion and consideration. We are looking for those discussions to turn to action in the coming weeks. -Southwest Holly Springs is one giant community. Our kids go to school together and are on the same sport teams. As a community of many two income families, we all help and support each other. When you change our calendars, you are change much more than the months our children go to school. You are essentially changing our very way of life. You will be taking away from us the support system we have created in our community. You are taking away the safety we have of knowing we have friends that are like family and would do anything to help our children. I had an issue not too long away as I was sitting in a work meeting and couldn’t get away and my daughter had an accident at school and subsequent meltdown. It was a member in the community who is close enough to be on our okay to pick up list that went to the school, got her all cleaned up and settled down, and taken back to school. You will be taking that away not just from my family, but our entire community. -Custody agreements, oh the stories I have heard from separated parents over the last few months. Many are unwillingness to go to any type of public forum because they don’t want to spread their very personal business out for everyone to see or because they are afraid the other parent will use this situation as an opportunity to adjust their custody agreement and get more time with the child(ren).I certainly don’t blame them and have the upmost respect for each of their situations. I have listened to countless parents mid-breakdown thinking about the impact this will have as many have custody set up so the other parent gets the child over track out and they have a stable environment while in school. Others who are on traditional (LHES) and being moved to YR (HAES) are in full on panic because of the same. One family shared the other parent lives out of the country and the child spends the summer with them and they don’t know what they are going to do being forced to a new calendar that doesn’t work for them. Again, it’s not just a calendar that children or families will adjust to, there are real issues being impacted by these changes. We know questions are being asked and data is being sought to assist in the decision regarding BCES and impacted areas/schools. I implore you to question the validity of data as data can be skewed to support any theory or agenda and much of the data we are hearing doesn’t appear to be telling the whole story or being presented objectively. In September, Mr. Corrozza stated that while much of Wake County does prefer the traditional calendar, the towns of Holly Springs and Wake Forest tend to prefer the YR calendar. At that same meeting, at Holly Grove Middle School, in the media center, he also stated he knew what the 200 parents in the room were going to ask for and when probed further, stated YR for BCES. Having this information and clear message from the community the school is being to support, I can’t understand for the life of me how we continue to ask questions based on why won’t this work or why can’t we make this happen, rather than how can we make this work? The Holly Springs community has truly partnered with the school board asking insightful questions, provided a plethora of potential solutions to potential construction challenges, and continues to engage in active dialogue at many different levels. We are begging you to opening BCES as YR school. I will leave you with one of my favorite quotes: “Sometimes the hard thing and the right thing are the same thing.” Thank you for your time.

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Jennifer Olson 4 months ago

84%!!!! Why does it take until the end of the process to come up with the idea of filling BCES with students that have requested tradition calendar assignment? There is no reason to affect the lives of this many families in the community when this could have been avoided if the assignment team proposed this idea after the first round. My children are currently in year-round and our preference is to keep it that way. We choose to move here over 6 years ago because the base school was year-round.

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Simone Lemieux 4 months ago

I want to thank the members of the WCPSS School Board for all of your work and time. And for delaying your vote on Student Assignment in southern Wake County until you had all the information.
I have two sons enrolled in Holly Springs Elementary school. We have been year round for six years. We love the Year Round calendar. It works well for our sons socially and academically. My husband and I both work full time, having quarterly breaks improves our quality of life, not just our children's. We have built our lives around it, we fully embrace it.
I implore you not to take that away from us. Please do not disrupt our lives with a forced calendar change. My first choice is for my sons to remain on the Holly Grove campus, both the elementary and middle schools. If you will not allow them to remain there, then please give us a year round option that is solidly guaranteed, not a lottery in which we are competing with our friends and neighbors for a few token spots. My second choice is to make BCES YR. In a very distant third choice is the current plan in which BCES remains TR and with forced calendar changes, but you give top priority to displaced YR students when they apply for YR calendar option at other schools.
I do not understand all the shuffling of students between the effected schools. It seems to defy logic that you move students out of HGES to BCES but they can apply to HARES. You are moving students out of HARES to LHES. Students from LHS are being sent to HARES and HGES? It' hard to imagine who would win under this plan? And forced calendar changes all the way around. I hope that a less confusing, simpler plan can be agreed upon.
I was heartened to hear the proposal at the most recent board meeting, to leave students in their current assignments and use BCES as a spill over school for TR calendar. That makes sense. It makes sense to populate new schools with students from new neighborhoods and new growth that is occurring around us. Please do not displace current students to make room for new ones. That just simply does not make sense.
Again, please do not force a calendar change on us. If we have to change schools, please do not compound the impact of that with a calendar change. Please continue to listen to what the parents are saying. WCPSS made our wonderful life style possible by offering us a YR option. Please do not take it away so that you can make room for other students that are moving into the area, or make your numbers look better. Please let my children remain where they are.

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Melina Price 4 months ago

My comments will provably echo many others here. My oldest will start kindergarten in 2019, so while the decisions made today will not directly effect us right now, they will eventually.

When I first moved to the area, I was very interested to hear about year-round schools and the more I heard, the more I felt that it would be the best interest of my children to attend schools with that calendar option. We felt very fortunate that the community we moved to backed up directly to three schools - Holly Springs High School, Holly Grove Middle and Elementary schools. We are so close that we can walk to all three, without going on a road. Up to this time, it seemed like a no-brainier that we'd be assigned to all 3 and we were very happy that our children would be able to benefit from year round education until high school. Imagine our disappointment at learning that we've been moved to a school, no longer in walking distance and to a traditional calendar.

Now while I understand that you need to fill seats in the new school, its disappointing to hear that it will be filled with an overwhelming amount of families that have come to love the year round calendar. And while you may say "its just a calendar - families will get used to it" - I think it is far more than that, as many families have reached out and let you know.

If there is any way to make Buchhorn year round - please please do it. If not, please allow those children and families that want to stay year round to remain at their current schools. Perhaps you can open Buckhorn up as application to those that was a traditional calendar option instead.

There have to be other options than forcing this amount of change on people that simply do not want it. You may say its just a calendar and families will adjust - its much more than that. Listen to the community you are effecting. Hear us.

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Joan Pegram 4 months ago

First of all I would like to say thank you to the school board and more specifically those individuals that are helping us with trying to make BCES a year around school. Please put yourself in our shoes and think about this as if these were your kids being slated to attend BCES. It is amazing for our kids to be able to go to a new, shiny school!! What is not okay is to have 84% of the kids that make up that new school switching calendars, which in turn will uproot the entire family dynamic that has been in place for those families. My son is a rising 3rd grader and our daughter will be a rising Kindergartner. Our kids have working parents and have set up vacations with work, created schedules with work to accommodate the current calendar they are on, have before/after school care set up, and also have track out camps set up. To basically force our children to change calendars will not only take them away from their friends and the teachers/students they have grown to love and build relationships with, but it will also uproot the friends/teachers they have grown to love at after school and camp. I ask you to listen to our concerns and make BCES a year around school. The SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE FOR BCES IS 7/3/18. With that being said, BCES would be ready for kids to attend school on the year around calendar. I guarantee you that if you decide to make BCES a year around school, you would have an entire community behind you and would volunteer to help in any way they can to get the school up and running! If you are determined to make BCES a traditional school, I am asking that you allow currently enrolled students and their siblings to be able to attend their current year around school and not be forced to uproot their lives and take them away from the people that they have become friends with and grown to genuinely care about. I am going to leave you with a quote from my 7 year old son. "Mom, I want to stay in year around school because I want the small breaks throughout the year so that I do not lose everything that I learned. I like to learn and want to stay with my friends and teachers." Do the right thing here please! Keep us in year around school one way or another. Thank you for your time.

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Chantal Kelly 4 months ago

I want to echo the sentiments above, and add one more voice to the discussion in favor of keeping our children on the calendar they started on. I do support BCES being opened as a year round school, because that is our new assignment, and that is the calendar option that works for my children as learners, and for my family. However, I understand the assignment office has compelling reasons why BCES should/will open as on a traditional calendar. I don't agree with all of those reasons, but I don't see that the calendar has to be of concern to me or the other families on this forum, if we can be guaranteed a placement on our preferred calendar. My family has been in year round school for six years, and we love it. I know there are traditional calendar families that feel the same way, and many of us are being faced with reassignments to calendar and school options that are not in line with our preference, BOTH from year round to traditional AND traditional to year round. I think the families and the school board/assignment office have a common goal, to provide the best quality education possible to the children of Wake County, and I understand that our perspectives are different. Those developing the assignment plan need to balance the needs of the county and projected growth in the areas specifically impacted by the assignment plan, for the good of the whole. Parents' perspectives are obviously different, focusing on the needs of our individual children and families. I would challenge the assignment office to consider who is a better predictor of what is best for these individual children and families. I have to believe that is the parents. I have not heard that issue raised once in discussion between the board members. The parents and families know what is best for their individual children and for their family lives. I know that there is overcrowding at our neighborhood schools, and I don't refute the need for a new school and new assignments. What I object to is making assignments with no option to stay on the calendar you prefer, or where you start, if feasible. I am hearing some parents say they want to stay at the school they started at. I am hearing some parents say they are willing to move to a new school if they can keep their preferred calendar. I am hearing some parents say they are willing to accept a misaligned calendar between elementary and middle school. I wonder if there is a way to manage the assignments so all families can get as close to their preferred option as possible, with application to the preferred option, with priority given to students most impacted by the reassignment plan. If this is not possible, please consider the doing the best for the largest number of children, which is the 84% who will be forced into a calendar change they did not request. Keep them on the calendar they prefer, and open BCES on a year round calendar. Thank you for your continued efforts and consideration!

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ALICE RUP 4 months ago

Today I saw there was a Survey Monkey sent out concerning the Superintendent Search. We have been asking for relevant data for months about reassignment and traditional VS year round calendars in our area. Why wasn’t a Survey sent out about these issues? I am frustrated as I feel that the Superintendent Search (while important) has “upstaged” our efforts. The overwhelming MAJORITY of families being reassigned to Buckhorn Creek NEED a year round calendar. Why wasn’t our feedback on the forum, emails, tweets, in person responses at Board Meetings enough to justify a survey?

I stand by my statement that year round calendars are better for student retention. The less time away from school, the more information is retained. As board members, educators as well as parents, we must advocate for what is best for our children's education. We cannot keep changing our children's schools and school calendars. Consistency, routine and stability are so important in development.

Making BCES an application Traditional Calendar School is NOT the answer. You all will not be able to fill even close to the amount of seats needed to fill that school as Traditional. If that is the only solution that is being offered to placate the hundreds parents of reassigned BCES students that have reaffirmed their desire to be kept in their Year Round School OR transfer to BCES if it opens as Year Round, the board needs to come up with something else. That solution is not listening to the community feedback and acting in the best interest of our children.

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Tom Kremer 4 months ago

We are another family impacted by the decision to make Buckhorn a traditional school. This decision has not been supported by the Wake County Board or staff, other than citing a need for more traditional schools in our area based upon outdated information. Most of the residents in this area currently attend year round schools. In fact the staff finally supplied data at the 11th hour stating that 84% of the students assigned to Buckhorn will be coming from year-round schools. Why are you willing to displace 84% of the families for a need that doesn’t exist. If families in this area really wanted a traditional option Lincoln Heights, a school located less than 4 miles from Buckhorn would be capped, which it is not. Furthermore another elementary school HGES, a year round school, less than 2 miles away is capped with trailers. Why not create flexibility by opening Buckhorn as a YR school to help alleviate capacity issues at HGES? With over 1,800 new homes scheduled to be built around these two schools, making Buckhorn YR is the only viable financially sound decision. Since Buckhorn is scheduled to be substantially completed by July, there is no excuse left to not open Buckhorn as a year round school. I hope Wake County opens an investigation as to how the culmination of events occurred and why decisions were made concerning Buckhorn and previously Oakview. Oakview is an example of what Buckhorn (if this school opens as a traditional school) will be in a couple of years, another capped school with trailers. It is a shame that the Wake County staff is supplying outdated information to the Board and withholding vital information, such as the % of new students entering Buckhorn from YR schools, until the 11th hour.

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Stephanie Bierman 4 months ago

As a former Wake County School Counselor, I can't emphasize enough the need for stability for students. One of the number one issues students face nowadays is anxiety and this is a growing mental health issue. Abruptly changing students' schools, school calendars, and family schedules due to redistricting/reassignment creates a great deal of anxiety that is very detrimental to children physically, emotionally, socially, and academically. Children and families shouldn't have to be worried every year about changes in assignments or where they may end up. We have got to get ahead of this growth curve, particularly in Southwest Wake County where things are growing exponentially and will continue to over the coming years. Buckhorn needs to be made a year round school to make best use of money/facilities/resources and to meet the needs of this growing area....if it is opened as traditional, we are going to be adding trailers (which is a huge waste of money) and/or dealing with reassignment issues again very quickly to accommodate the growing numbers. In addition, it would be best practice to allow students to remain at the schools they are currently attending....there is a reason why people moved to certain neighborhoods and applied to certain schools. If we are given the option for year round and have applied and gotten into a year round school, we should be allowed to stay at that school....otherwise, why have year round be an option and why allow people to apply and be accepted at specific year round schools. By forcing students to go to another school and one on a different calendar, you are creating a great deal of anxiety as now students have to deal with not only a new school but also a new calendar. Why cause upheaval for students and families when if they are thriving at their current schools? At the very least, you should grandfather rising fifth graders and their siblings...and siblings should be grandfathered for the remainder of their time at that school, not for one year....which just means they have the anxiety of not knowing where they will be attending the next year and worrying about having to change schools looming large. This is not conducive to emotional well-being, nor academic success. I appreciate you taking the time to be mindful of all that is at stake with these decisions and hope that you will be especially thoughtful before making reassignments that will so adversely affect hundreds of students and families.

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Dale Barfield 4 months ago

Please open Buckhorn as a year round school. It is clear that the community impacted by this reassignment want year round. If you are unable to open BCES on year round calendar, please allow these year round families to remain at their current school. The community has presented many ideas for how to make BCES open as a year round or allowing families to stay with their preferred calendar at the school that they already attend. We live in Oliver Creek and both of my children, one elementary, one middle school have done very well on the year round calendar. The impact of uprooting these kids and changing them from a calendar which works well for them needs to be considered.

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Jeff Rup 4 months ago

I'm very displeased and very concerned over the school boards proposal to open Buckhorn Creek ES as a traditional calendar school as well as reassignment proposals. From a parents perspective, I'm very concerned about changing to another school with a traditional calendar year, as I have read studies that children in year round excel academically more than the traditional students.  From a practicality perspective, the year round schedule helps two full time working parents not have to find suitable child care for an entire summer.  The town of Holly Springs is growing rapidly but does not offer many choices for summer day camps or child care that fit our needs and schedules.  Drawing 85% of the students from year round calendar schools to attend a new traditional calendar school will negatively impact families in the community and cause many inconveniences particularly with the families that will have siblings on two different school schedules. It doesn't make sense. 

 In a rapidly growing area, it would make sense to make  the Buckhorn School year round, so it can accommodate more students. It is impossible to project how many families with children in elementary school will be moving into the community.  The town and counties inability to responsibly manage its growth should not be at the expense of the current residents and students.  Why not be proactive and open the new school that can suitably accommodate students moving into the area, with a multi track year round schedule,  rather than bring in a bunch of unsightly trailers because the school is overcrowded within a year of opening.

The data the Board claims to have, of residents supporting a traditional calendar, sounds to be outdated and inaccurate considering it was obtained over 5 years ago, and a lot of our current families did not have kids in the school system yet.  Citing this data suggests that the board is out of touch and unresponsive to the current needs of our rapidly growing community.  Seeing classroom trailers put outside of a new school on a traditional schedule, within a year of opening suggests poor planning.  

During the last few school board meetings a number of parents have had a chance to stand before the school board to voice their opinions in support of making Buckhorn Creek a year round school, and their concerns about school reassignments. If given more time, opportunity,  and larger venue, there would have been considerably more.  Many parents have even come up great with solutions on how to solve the problem of changing it to a year round schedule, and no doubt, many more would be willing to help in some way make this happen. 

My wife and I have enjoyed living in Holly Springs for over 15 years, Wake County for over 20.  We have seen many changes in the town and community.  However we are very disappointed in many of these school board proposals, especially in the last year.  We have 2 children currently at Holly Grove Elementary. They enjoy going to school there.  They have built strong friendships with classmates, and know all the teachers very well.  We are happy with the education they have received so far. They will however be on different schedules if the Buckhorn School is made a traditional calendar school, and the proposed reassignments happen.  Ideally I feel all students should have the option to stay where they are, and should not be made to move, as children need stability in their lives. It should start with home and education.  Another solution that was mentioned was to open BCES as a multitrack year round school, with one track similar to that of a traditional calendar, to accommodate those who may want that option.

Part of a teacher's job is to encourage students to think outside the box, dream, imagine, plan, lead, and prepare for the future.  This also applies to the school board. 

The school board needs to lead by example, and be more progressive in their thinking, work with their constituents to meet the needs of our communities and plan for the future.  Buckhorn Creek needs to open as a year round school to accommodate the growing population in our area.  Every child should be in a proper brick and mortar building, not a flimsy trailer.  Be leaders. Be prepared for growth. Do not take the easy route in hopes the bond will pass. No more trailers.

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Kelly Trumpatori 4 months ago

You base opening BCES as a traditional school citing that “most families” in the area want a traditional school. Clearly this is NOT fact. You are moving children and uprooting families that are THRIVING in their current year round environments. Not only that, but you then propose giving some of the HARES kid the “application YR” school of HGES... which is CAPPED. Essentially taking away even the CHOICE to remain in a YR school. Unbelievable. Please listen to your community. MAKE BCES YEAR ROUND!!!!

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Liana Castel 4 months ago

Hi, I know I am in the minority but my family would be least disrupted and the sibling calendars would become aligned by Buckhorn Creek being traditional or having a traditional track, for three reasons: compliance with a 2016 shared custody and visitation order that assumes the traditional calendar, parents' work schedules, and an older child at Holly Springs High School. This is not to say that we are not very happy with HGES, and we certainly appreciate the complexity of finding solutions to this growth that are in the best interests of the children's education. Please let us know if there is any other information we can provide.

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Amanda Matheny 4 months ago

Thank you for delaying the vote on BCES in order to gain more information. My children are not currently affected by this plan. However, as 17 year resident of HS and a former YR teacher (11 years), I'd like to respectfully voice my opinion in favor of BCES opening on the YR calendar. I've witnessed the growth in HS and the overcrowding of schools. I've also witnessed the benefits of YR stated above. 84% of the students are coming from YR already. Please use this opportunity to open a YR school in a growing area where YR is already loved and accepted.

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Lauren Massey 4 months ago

In September I attended the meeting at Holly Springs Middle school. I will never forget Mr. Corrozza stating that Wake County tries to promote year round schools but historically Wake county parents want traditional. My jaw dropped in shock since the room was full of 200 parents advocating for year round. HGES is capped so how could the board not see that opening BCES as year round to be the best option for the growing community? It is clear that year round schools are popular in our community. Holly Springs growth is booming due to the wonderful schools we have and the year round calendar options. My husband and I bought our house in the Avocet neighborhood in Holly Springs because of the great schools as did many other families I am sure. Year round schools in Holly Springs are capped due to their popularity in our area. My child is thriving on the year round calendar. I beg you to please listen to the community and work WITH the community to open BCES as year round. If for some unknown reason this cannot be achieved, please leave the 84% of kids you were planning to rip out of year round alone. Year round will provide more seats for the growing community. It will provide stability for many businesses, families and children. Please do the right thing and open BCES year round. It is all my rising 4th grader knows and all my rising kindergartener has looked forward to. Please don't disrupt the lives of so many people. Thank you for hearing us!

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Dorrie Buccafusca 4 months ago

At this time, I think many of us are feeling quite desperate. We all understand that you are working furiously to balance the four pillars, Student Achievement, Stability, Proximity and Operational Efficiency. It’s appears though, that instead of stability being top priority, it’s taking a back seat. Why? Because children are resilient? They’ll bounce back? They’re still young and have time to establish new relationships? What about the introverts who don’t find it so easy to make new friendships? How about the kids who have developed bonds and who have become dependent upon those bonds and the familiarity of their teachers and peers to support them up when they’re having an off day?

My children are devastated about having to leave Holly Grove and when asked why, it has nothing to do with track vs. traditional. It has everything to do with losing the friendships they’ve spent the past few years developing and nurturing. It has everything to do with being yanked away from the familiar faces that they have grown to know, like and trust. In this world of disconnection where everything is automated and impersonal, I implore you to consider the emotional impact this will have on so many students and allow the Avocet community to remain at Holly Grove. We have been there since the very beginning and would love to stay. If that is an impossibility, please consider opening BCES as a year round school so that at a minimum, our children can retain the schedules that they’ve become accustomed to. It appears as though we have no option but to accept the possibility of being moved to a new school. YOU however, have the power to make the transition less stressful and far less disruptive for both the parents and students. Thank you so much for your consideration.

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Kelly Barnwell 4 months ago

Buckhorn Elementary is about 7 minutes from our home. Currently, my son is in 3rd grade at FVES, traditional calendar. He is proposed to go to Herbert Akins, about a 20 minute drive, and taking him from year round to Traditional. Yet, they are taking kids from Herbert Akins and moving them to Buckhorn and from Willow Springs and moving them to FVES. None of this makes sense. We would like to stay at FVES or have Buckhorn considered for our address instead of moving all these kids from year round to traditional or vice-versa.

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Karen Austin 4 months ago

There are at least 303 students that are being moved out of Herbert Aiken Elementary [YR] to Traditional schools.153 are being reassigned to BCES, but another 150 are being sent to Lincoln Heights. No communication has gone out from the school to these 303 students. Many parents are still not aware their children are impacted. Obviously opening BCES as YR would help the 153 children slated to move, but what about the 150 being sent to Lincoln Heights. No rationale has been provided, to date, as to why that change is being made, despite several requests asking. That is a lot of change and turmoil for our area, and what possibly could be the gain?

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Karen Austin 4 months ago

There have been 49 main responses posted on this page so far. Of those, only ONE is in favor of the plan. That means 48/49 of the respondents to your poll are requesting that BCES open as Year Round. I find that a very significant statistic!

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Tyson Franks 4 months ago

I would also like to add the impact on local childcare centers that exist and operate to accomodate the schools. I am a Pre-K teacher in Fuquay-Varina. We service 4 of the schools in the area, only 1 being traditional. The Center I work at has been at a stand-still as we 1. Are left to inform current and future enrollees that their school may have been reassigned. 2. That we may or may not be servicing their school.
This has caused uncertainty and has impacted enrollments for the upcoming year. This Reassignment IS creating havoc for local businesses.
I should also mention not only before and after school programs and trackout camps, but also Doctors. My goodness...I cant tell you how many times I hear, "We can handle this on your next track-out." They anticipate the trackouts and the scheduling for these children. I prefer the trackout time because it allows me to get the kids seen and not miss school. As a matter of fact, today we discussed a tonsillectomy that will be done on our next trackout, AND we won't miss school. Please, please listen.

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Michelle Wagner 4 months ago

These changes are significant to my family, to my 3rd grade daughter, specifically. She is thriving at HARES, thriving in a YEAR ROUND ENVIRONMENT. Are you wondering why year round vs. traditional calendar makes a difference to my child? She is a sensitive child and gets overwhelmed by her environment easily, while she doesn't fit into the box of a label for this attribute, we are aware of it and have created an environment - CHOSEN A SPECIFIC ENVIRONMENT - that helps her thrive and be the best her she can be. She is being evaluated for the gifted program and that is much to do with our CHOICE to move here and enroll her in a well-rated, year round school program that caters to the individual needs of the children in a highly successful manner, whether those needs be advanced learning, special needs learning, or any other need that arises. HARES is TOPS in my book and we chose to move here and buy our home 1.5 miles from this school AND we did all this based on FACTS AND RESEARCH! Year round option gives my sensitive child a break from all the sensory overload that comes with learning and the learning environment. Year round option also allows for travel to keep our daughter in touch with aging grandparents, her aunts and uncles, and all her cousins - it ALLOWS us to maintain those connections more than once per year so she feels like she is part of something bigger than herself - HER EXTENDED FAMILY. I have witnessed the loss of learning even in the short 4 week summer break, the summer slide, and I contribute my daughter's advanced learning to be much in part of the year round schedule we are being forced out of. Additionally, I have busing concerns - being moved to FVES will have our children on a bus route that is twice as long. It probably doesn't seem like a long bus ride but it will be about twice as long for the children in Springhill Neighborhood to bus to FVES than to HARES, making it closer to an hour on a bus rather than 30 minutes. This change breaks your own pillars of NONSENSE that you keep telling us you are upholding but WE SEE THE HOLES IN YOUR STORY. Proximity of HARES is half the distance to FVES from Springhill Neighborhood. BCES will be about the same distance as HARES is but we aren't being kept in either one of these schools because you are trying to use our children to improve the scores of a low-ranking (was it 7th lowest in the state if memory serves? pretty darn close to that, I'm certain) school FVES. I am greatly disappointed with the board and their propagation of unsupported "fake facts". I moved here from Missouri to get my child a better education because Missouri, at least parts of it, were ranked much lower than Wake County Public Schools - and within a few years of being HIGHLY impressed with our public education here...well, here we are fighting for what should be seen as reasonable, logical expectations for zoning that you all highly educated board members see as unreasonable and unsupported. It's crazy. It really is. I can't believe I and all these other families are having to fight so fracking hard for STATUS QUO! Look, I realize that changes have to be made to accommodate a growing population but numbers don't lie but y'all seem to. We aren't buying your numbers don't work and no one said anything sooner crap. We just don't because WE are all highly intelligent and know how to use the internet and social media and EACH OTHER as resources - so we see your nonsense and we raise you an opportunity to make this right by at least grandfathering in current students and siblings OR allowing for families to make their own choices about what is right for them, at least up to a point, for year round vs. traditional - like it has been! I am happy to apply to HARES, like it says I am able to do - but I'd like GREATER THAN A HALF A CHANCE TO CONTINUE TO ATTEND A SCHOOL MY CHILD IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN! It is not in my child or any of the other children that are about to be displaced and or repeatedly shuffled around schedule-wise best interest. It is not in the best interest of families with multiple children in varying schedules - how do you propose they work, afford after care for various schedules, AND still thrive as a family living in Wake County? The school board has a significant role in what brings families to Wake County from all over the country/world by creating a system that works, not just on paper BUT FOR THE FAMILIES AND THE CHILDREN. I urge the board to make the children ACTUALLY come first. You all know what to do. You know because we keep asking over and over again with reasonable requests and SOLUTIONS. Do what is right for our children in Springhill Neighborhood by giving them options for year round and a reasonable chance to be accepted into the schedule that best suits the families needs.

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Tyson Franks 4 months ago

Michelle Wagner...STANDING OVATION!!!!

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Michelle Wagner 4 months ago

Thanks Tyson!

I indicated the incorrect school abbreviation so I reposted the corrections in a new comment since I cannot find an edit option for my original post

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Lindsey Fescoe 4 months ago

Please make Buckhorn Creek a YR school. We are currently at HARES and bought our house based on a HARES school assignment. My child is thriving on the year around school schedule and we have invested our lives at HARES. We love the school, the principal, the staff and the YR calendar. Please let families who would like the stay at HARES stay! And please make BCES YR if you can’t let everyone stay at HARES.

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dana behan 4 months ago

Thank you for taking more time to get correct information and to look at real options. Please open Buckhorn as year round. We understand that growth necessitates some change, but uprooting 655 families and throwing them on calendars which they do not want is not necessary. Shouldn't the children and families who are already assigned to schools and calendars get priority over those who haven't even moved in yet? That Stability pillar is critical. Psychological research consistently demonstrates the importance of a stable, predictable environment is for emotionally healthy kids. Unpredictability-- changes in schools, friends, calendars, teachers-- creates so much anxiety for all of us, especially for the children. This kind of upheaval also makes them reluctant to bond with new friends and teachers because they don't know how long they'll be with them. How are families supposed to work with children on two different calendars? How can we be expected to go from year round to traditional, then back to year round for middle, then traditional for high school? Please make year round work at Buckhorn. Give us some stability. It is absolutely doable. Show us that the well-being of children and their families are the biggest priority in Wake County. Thank you.

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Michelle Wagner 4 months ago

REposting with edits - in my original post I indicated the incorrect school abbreviation.

These changes are significant to my family, to my 3rd grade daughter, specifically. She is thriving at HARES, thriving in a YEAR ROUND ENVIRONMENT. Are you wondering why year round vs. traditional calendar makes a difference to my child? She is a sensitive child and gets overwhelmed by her environment easily, while she doesn't fit into the box of a label for this attribute, we are aware of it and have created an environment - CHOSEN A SPECIFIC ENVIRONMENT - that helps her thrive and be the best her she can be. She is being evaluated for the gifted program and that is much to do with our CHOICE to move here and enroll her in a well-rated, year round school program that caters to the individual needs of the children in a highly successful manner, whether those needs be advanced learning, special needs learning, or any other need that arises. HARES is TOPS in my book and we chose to move here and buy our home 1.5 miles from this school AND we did all this based on FACTS AND RESEARCH! Year round option gives my sensitive child a break from all the sensory overload that comes with learning and the learning environment. Year round option also allows for travel to keep our daughter in touch with aging grandparents, her aunts and uncles, and all her cousins - it ALLOWS us to maintain those connections more than once per year so she feels like she is part of something bigger than herself - HER EXTENDED FAMILY. I have witnessed the loss of learning even in the short 4 week summer break, the summer slide, and I contribute my daughter's advanced learning to be much in part of the year round schedule we are being forced out of. Additionally, I have busing concerns - being moved to LHES will have our children on a bus route that is twice as long. It probably doesn't seem like a long bus ride but it will be about twice as long for the children in Springhill Neighborhood to bus to LHES than to HARES, making it closer to an hour on a bus rather than 30 minutes. This change breaks your own pillars of NONSENSE that you keep telling us you are upholding but WE SEE THE HOLES IN YOUR STORY. Proximity of HARES is half the distance to LHES from Springhill Neighborhood. BCES will be about the same distance as HARES is but we aren't being kept in either one of these schools because you are trying to use our children to improve the scores of a low-ranking (was it 7th lowest in the state if memory serves? pretty darn close to that, I'm certain) school LHES. I am greatly disappointed with the board and their propagation of unsupported "fake facts". I moved here from Missouri to get my child a better education because Missouri, at least parts of it, were ranked much lower than Wake County Public Schools - and within a few years of being HIGHLY impressed with our public education here...well, here we are fighting for what should be seen as reasonable, logical expectations for zoning that you all highly educated board members see as unreasonable and unsupported. It's crazy. It really is. I can't believe I and all these other families are having to fight so fracking hard for STATUS QUO! Look, I realize that changes have to be made to accommodate a growing population but numbers don't lie but y'all seem to. We aren't buying your numbers don't work and no one said anything sooner crap. We just don't because WE are all highly intelligent and know how to use the internet and social media and EACH OTHER as resources - so we see your nonsense and we raise you an opportunity to make this right by at least grandfathering in current students and siblings OR allowing for families to make their own choices about what is right for them, at least up to a point, for year round vs. traditional - like it has been! I am happy to apply to HARES, like it says I am able to do - but I'd like GREATER THAN A HALF A CHANCE TO CONTINUE TO ATTEND A SCHOOL MY CHILD IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN! It is not in my child or any of the other children that are about to be displaced and or repeatedly shuffled around schedule-wise best interest. It is not in the best interest of families with multiple children in varying schedules - how do you propose they work, afford after care for various schedules, AND still thrive as a family living in Wake County? The school board has a significant role in what brings families to Wake County from all over the country/world by creating a system that works, not just on paper BUT FOR THE FAMILIES AND THE CHILDREN. I urge the board to make the children ACTUALLY come first. You all know what to do. You know because we keep asking over and over again with reasonable requests and SOLUTIONS. Do what is right for our children in Springhill Neighborhood by giving them options for year round and a reasonable chance to be accepted into the schedule that best suits the families needs.

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Beth Morrison 4 months ago

Thank you for taking your time to hear us all during this challenging event. Please know that most of us are parents are passionate about their children and not crazed maniacs that are trying to cause problems. I know that you have heard from parent after parent how and why year round works for their family. I know student assignment is a hard issue that causes many opposing views. Thank you for taking your time to hear me today.

Why has BCES causes such a stir and what I hope the school board takes away from this? A lot of people want to take it at face value and say that any change causes issues for people. I would agree that most change is uncomfortable and is disruptive for anyone affected. I know the school board doesn’t want to disrupt children, but has too in order to accommodate the growing population. If you look further this isn’t about change in schools. I think most parents in Holly Springs would have said dang this is going to suck and moved on with minimal fuss if BCES was year round. This is really the issue. Year round is our life. 310 students and their families are being asked to uproot everything to change for this school. We might as well be moving across the county or across the state. I know you are probably saying that is a bit dramatic, but is it? Not only will my students school, friends, and teachers change, but so will her afterschool program and break options. This will change our ability to see family, take vacations, have family assist with track out care, literally everything will change with the exception of our address. You see this is not just a school change. We have all been through or know someone that has had a school change. This is a way of life change. This is a change that will affect every aspect of our lives. This is why you are seeing the passion come out in a lot of parents. If we were just changing one school to another yes our teachers, friends, and school would change, but our way of life wouldn’t. A simple school change would not affect my child’s learning capabilities. One of my children has ADHD and needs the breaks to reset and move forward and one reason we choose to live in a YR school zone. A simple school change would not affect how often they could go visit grandparents out of state. A simple school change would not affect the amount of time I have with my children (right now I can take almost a week off every track out, but I won’t be able to do that if they are on a traditional calendar). I have heard that calendar is not that big of a deal, but I am here to tell you calendar is everything. Almost the entire student population of BCES will be uprooted from their entire way of life. You could say what about future students. I would retort that when you purchase your house you look at the schools around you and determine what you are comfortable with. That is your choice. Choice is what we want, but are not being given. I promise you that it will not affect the growth of Holly Springs. The other issue that is causing so many passionate parents are the lack of choice. When you back people into a corner and mandate change without choice then it causes great unrest. For the other 70 students if they wanted to resume traditional they could apply to their calendar option that is not capped and get in. Most love their current school and per PTA are happy with that option. For the 310 we do not have that same privilege. We have heard that we can apply, but our calendar options are capped. We are not going to be able to get into a capped school, plus I don’t think you have room for the 300 that will apply. Lack of room is the reason for BCES. If you could guarantee calendar choice for the 310 then it would not be as big of a deal, but it would cause more issues at current schools. Passion is coming out, because mandated change is coming that will affect our entire way of life and we feel like we are being given no choice about it.

What I hope the school board takes away from this is that calendar assignment changes everything. If you are going to move the majority of students from a specific calendar to a new school than that school should have the same calendar. That they should really start asking early for more numbers and more options from the student assignment office. I hope that student assignment is forced to give the board at least 2 options for traditional and 2 options for year round. If there is a question about what parents want that the student assignment office and the board engage parents earlier on, so that they have all the necessary feedback to implement change if needed.

I am a graduate from WCPSS, went to college in state, and now use my talents in state. I was hoping my children would be able to do the same. I will be forced to look at other non WCPSS options that include year round if we are forced to move to traditional.

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Margaret Merrill 4 months ago

The revised proposal you will see in your meeting today is a joke. The student assignment staff completely ignored your request to explore ways of making Buckhorn a traditional application school. Just like they wasted six weeks back in October with trying to realign middle schools and busing children all over town for no logical reason. You’ll see on slide 6, that they also neglected to include Oakview as a traditional school. This latest version is, once again, wasting your time and my tax dollars.

You all keep saying there is a demand for traditional schools in this area, yet you insist on filling that traditional school with kids from year round. Why? Staff merely shuffled around a few small neighborhoods to make it look like they were making changes for the sake of making changes. This is not a resolution!

Stop applying band-aid after band-aid and fix the actual problem. We need stability and seats. Year round is the way to handle that. Stop making this harder than it has to be.

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Laura Bishop 4 months ago

I am so very disappointed to see the presentation that is posted for today's meeting about Buckhorn Creek. This proposal is not at all what was discussed in the last board meeting. It does not even make BCES a traditional option school. It actually makes my situation EVEN WORSE because now I can't even apply to my child's current school, Holly Grove. We have been moved into the Herbert Akins/Ballentine area for calendar application. The board keeps saying that we need another traditional option on this side of town for people who want traditional, but you are not proposing to send ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE THERE. You are just proposing to take a bunch of kids out of year round who are happy in year round! I hope that some board members who were proposing BCES as a traditional calendar option will recognize this neglect in today's meeting.

At this point though, having read all the feedback on this forum, I think it is clear that there is no overwhelming demand for a traditional school at all. I see almost everyone on here begging for year-round. Please reconsider this disasterous plan to force calendar changes on so many children for NO discernable benefit. It should just be opened as YR.

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Giorgio Galante 4 months ago

It's time to vote out the old guard school board members since they aren't able to empathize with what we as parents of school-age elementary/middle-school kids face, nor do they have a firm grasp on technology - they are just blindly listening to the assignment department's incompetent recommendations rather than scrutinizing their inadequate processes & systems.

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Kelly Casselman 4 months ago

I’ve had the opportunity to view the new proposal you will be discussing tonight for the Buckhorn Creek ES assignment plan. The changes on this proposal are so minor that I can’t understand why the vote was delayed if that’s all you intended to do. The student assignment staff completely ignored our overwhelming requests posted to your forum and hundreds of emails I know you've received to explore ways of making Buckhorn a YR school. Just like they wasted six+ weeks trying to realign middle schools and busing children all over town for no logical reason. You’ll see on slide 6, that they also neglected to include Oakview as a traditional school. Was this also not calculated in to this mysterious number that makes you think the need for traditional calendar schools in this area is more pressing than year round? This latest version is, once again, wasting your time and my tax dollars. Some of the board maintains that there is a demand for traditional schools in this area, yet you insist on filling that traditional school with kids from year round. Why? Staff merely shuffled around a few small neighborhoods to make it look like they were making changes for the sake of making changes. This is not a resolution! We need stability and seats. Year round is the way to handle that. Stop making this harder than it has to be. You are displacing hundreds of students and 84% of them are changing calendars. The new proposal has only decreased that to 76%...that's the definition of insanity to repeatedly make these same decisions over and over against your constituents wishes. And we've made those wishes clear. I understand there is a need for some students to be shuffled but common sense shows you would do that with same calendar students as much as possible. Your constituents have clearly laid out common sense ways this can happen. You've made hundreds of parents upset over these proposals and nothing brings out an internet sleuth like a mad mom or dad defending their child and their way of life. So we have the facts and figures to back these simple common sense solutions. I'm a single mom of a raising 3rd grader in the Sandy Springs neighborhood. We love HARES and our year round schedule. I will lose my child care and have to return to court to rewrite our custody agreement if I'm moved to LHES as proposed. The Park Grove and Springhill neighborhoods are in the same situation as me and from forum feedback, various Facebook site polls and feedback, it's clear that a majority of these families want to stay year round at HARES. This new proposal still does not solve the problem that HARES and HGES will be capped or at full capacity. Adding Ballentine ES as a transfer option is completely useless to our area because of how far away it is. Keep us at HARES or make Buckhorn YR. It's the only option available for us to guarantee a year round schedule. This proposal blocks us from transferring otherwise. Board members, I know you are parents, aunts and uncles, and/or grandparents. Please put yourself in our shoes. Do what will make a majority of parents and students happy. Save yourself or whomever has to read and go through the hundreds of transfer requests some time and stress.

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Amy McGovern 4 months ago

I was on the WCPSS website this morning and came across a link that provided information on the School Board Advisory Council. This council is charged with working with the community and to spearhead the following:

  1. Research/review/offer recommendations on the critical issues prioritized by the Board of Education;

  2. Review school system policies and procedures assigned by the Board of Education to improve understanding and to facilitate uniform interpretation by the community. Examples may include budgets, programs, activities, and facilities;

  3. Provide a forum for receiving input/advice to the Board of Education on issues affecting school policies and procedures;

  4. Offer feedback solicited by the Board on longer-term issues;

  5. Express itself appropriately on educational matters based upon active participation in activities

Create reports that include some of the following information:

• The report should include input on district needs or concerns, as well as any recommendations for the Board of Education’s consideration regarding issues discussed during the respective school year. • The report may include recommendations to the Board regarding specific district concerns. • The report shall be submitted on the Board Advisory Council reporting form BP2. (See R & P Board Advisory Council Reporting Form)

So I ask - Where has this board been during our months of conversation regarding the assignment plan? Why were they not in attendance at the Community Forums? When responding to our emails, why didn’t School board members link us with the representatives for the districts that are being impacted? Who are the Current Advisory Board Members and why have they been silent?

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Alisa Jardin 4 months ago

Please open Buckhorn Creek as year round and allow families to stay on their current calendar assignment. The current proposal has Ballentine as a YR option which makes no sense traffic wise and goes against the boards repeated attempts to tell us that we need more traditional seats. If you need to move hundreds of students from year round schools to fill a traditional Buckhorn Creek then you might as well open it as year round! Open Buckhorn Creek as Year Round AND leave our calendar schedule alone!

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Lisa Milliger 4 months ago

While I realize that this is a situation in which there may not be a "perfect" answer, I appreciate your efforts to address the inherent challenges. It is exceedingly concerning to me that in a growing community like Holly Springs, the choice would be to open this school on a traditional calendar schedule. The seats needed to accommodate the population growth in Holly Springs will not be well-addressed by this plan. Further, it is incredibly concerning to me that transferring 655 families from year round to traditional school seems like a reasonable plan. Many families, including ours, have moved to the neighborhoods that they have with the distinct intention of having the opportunity to allow their children to attend year round schools. Given the demographics of Holly Springs it is vital that students are able to attend community schools, close to their homes. It is our desire to participate to a high degree in our children's education, but that opportunity is significantly diminished should the school be a significant distance away. Traffic in Holly Springs is atrocious and even a 5 mile commute can quite literally take 25-30 minutes.

Many families that have moved into the area will be facing the additional financial burden of paying for summer care for their children which is unnecessary and unexpected. When we moved into this vibrant, exciting area, we certainly didn't envision this being something we would be facing and it is simply due to the lack of transparency.

It has been proposed that we apply to a calendar option school. The difficulty there lies in the fact that with 655 children being uprooted from their calendar, the likelihood that everyone will be able to achieve obtainment of a seat in already overcrowded schools is low. This is not simply an issue of convenience. This (year round schooling) is a lifestyle that we have intentionally elected with purpose and deep consideration. Our neighbors rave about the consistency and continued learning that children receive in year round school. Further, we do not want to undergo this worry every couple of years regarding the unpredictable and seemingly unnecessary school changes. Stability, a predictable, consistent environment, has been proven over and over again to be crucial to the emotional well-being of children. What we need to focus on most is the best interest of the community's children. How can so many families being switched from one lifestyle to another be what is truly best for the children? If Buckhorn Creek must open on a traditional calendar schedule, why make it mandatory? Why not make it an option? Our children deserve parental involvement and support. Our neighborhoods deserve fostering of true community.

We are so grateful for the time and effort you are dedicating to this concern. Please continue to consider either making Buckhorn Creek a calendar option or opening on a year round schedule. Our families are depending on it.

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Jacklyn Vogel 4 months ago

Please reconsider our neighborhood, Summerdale, in the revision! You are moving us to LHES and we want to stay at HARES!! Our neighborhood is filled with young families and our base middle school is HGMS! It is not a functional or stable move for families to place us in a situation where our kids are on split calendar options! I know changes must be made, but when the change completely destroys continuity between elementary and middle school calendars it needs to be fixed!

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Kate Farrish 4 months ago

They are doing this to at least three or four subdivisions that I am aware of, including my own (Springhill). It is unfair to these young kids.

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Chris Wilms 4 months ago

We love year round school. My son retains more information yet gets needed breaks at regular intervals. We reconnect as a family and open him up to new experiences during the breaks. We also get to take family vacations in the off season which allows for better rates, fewer crowds, and a better experience for him. We have been so grateful to live somewhere with an infrastructure to support year round. It is really disheartening to see him possibly stripped of what I think is an extremely valuable contributor to his education and overall development. Pulling him and so many other kids from this experience is doing them a disservice. In fact, it is a major reason why we chose to move here and raise a family. Please carefully consider the value year round adds when making a decision

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Tyson Franks 4 months ago

I emphatically say I DO NOT WANT MY CHILDREN MOVED FROM HARES TO LHES, FROM YEAR-ROUND TO TRADITIONAL. Leaving me with 2 separate calendars. WE WANT TO STAY AT HARES.

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Perry Aaron 4 months ago

Once again nothing changes for residents of Parker Pointe and Southen Oaks. Moving our children to a year round ES yet keeping a Traditional MS is ridiculous. Allowing our neighboring community, who we share the same streets with, to stay at FVES, also makes no sense. On a personal note as previously stated many time you are looking to move my child who suffers from anxiety to a new school. I have continually voiced by displeasure with these proposals and directly with the board. No matter what is said it falls on deaf ears. I believe if the board moves ahead with this plan they show that they care not for what the community wants, and do many a child a huge disservice.

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Julie Willis 4 months ago

We absolutely love the year round schedule. We have been on the year round schedule for many years and would like the option of being able to continue with the year round schedule for our two younger boys. Our base school has always been Lincoln Heights with Herbert Akins as the year round alternative. We feel both of our boys learn best and retain more with this schedule. They have been at the same school throughout their academic career and we don't want to disrupt this pattern of learning. Please consider giving everyone the year round option we have always enjoyed in the past.

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Mandi Brantly 4 months ago

We love the year round schedule and my kids have thrived at HARES, which we transferred to from FVES five years ago. With the proposed assignment plan, we would have to go to FVES or try to transfer to a new YR option. If transfers are going to be nearly impossible to get, please let those of us who have transferred into YR schools stay in our current schools and on our current calendars!

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Perry Aaron 4 months ago

Seeing your comment just reiteraes to me that this plan is not well thought out. They are moving your kids out of HARES to FVES while they are moving mine out of FVES into HARES. Why not let us stay where our kids thrive.

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Sue Ellen Stiegler 4 months ago

I would like to see the decision about Buckhorn made on what is best for children and not what is best for the county. They should be able to attend their neighborhood schools where their neighbors/friends also attend. They should be able to stay in the same school K-5 for continuity. We are expecting a lot of changes/transitions for these young kids (even more if they will need custody changed as a result of calendar change). As a former teacher at Holly Grove Elementary, I stand by the opinion that the year round calendar is better for children and learning. This is especially important for our children who struggle or have high needs. The social aspect of elementary school is a critical part of learning to be a kind, productive citizen in your community. They should have an opportunity to build relationships with peers on the same calendar/schedule.

This decision not only affects children and families but also the local track out camps in Holly Springs. If Buckhorn is put on a year round calendar not only does that help spread out child care payment for parents but it helps keep the number of children receiving care spread out as well. For example, if Buckhorn were put on traditional calendar, there would be more kids who need care in the summer and the track out/summer camps in Holly Springs will be capped and families will need to find care outside of their home town. It affects staffing for these facilities as well. I much rather be able to hire a salaried experienced employee who is qualified with degrees in childcare versus summer help which often includes high school kids and teenagers because qualified adults need full time jobs. This change will affect the regular customers that attend the local track out camps as well which could result in counselors losing their jobs.

Families move to particular neighborhoods because of the schools they serve. There are many families that prefer the year round schedule because of financial purposes, vacation times, and the ability to visit out of town family. It is frustrating to move to a neighborhood with a plan for your children and family to learn that it is all being rearranged. With the growth in Holly Springs and the new build neighborhoods, we are going to need a year round school to accommodate the growth. We built a traditional school and it is already bringing in trailers. Holly Grove is capped.

I ask that those voting on this issue consider all the viewpoints and aspects this decision affects. Please make the right choice and make BCES a year round school. It is what is best for the children, families, and businesses in our town.

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Melissa Nelson 4 months ago

I urge the Board to open Buckhorn Elementary School as a year-round school. In a rapidly growing community, this allows the school (and county) to most wisely use its resources now and in the future. And it allows our children to stay on a similar track/calendar as they transition to middle school, which is important for continuity and routine for children who have so many distractions already present in their daily lives. Please please consider the vast majority of opinions for this school to open as a year round school to weigh heavily on your decision. And thank you for this challenging task you are taking, and for listening to all of us.

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Heather Balsley 4 months ago

Thank you for removing the portion of the 2018-2019 reassignment plan pertaining to the movements associated with the opening of Buckhorn Creek Elementary School.

This is a complex movement of hundreds of elementary students that necessitates close and careful consideration. While growth and expansion of Wake County has been a continuous challenge, the most important pieces in this puzzle are the actual children being moved. How do we create the smoothest transition possible for these young children?

In the current proposal multiple schools are being impacted in a variety of ways.

Willow Springs Elementary a Year Round School is having students moved to Banks Rd (YR) as well as Fuquay Varina ES (traditional). 100 students from Willow Springs will be transitioning to a new school next year but will stay on their same calendar. This means while their school and social structure are changing they likely can keep their familiar routines during track out, see old friends at track out camp and have consistentancy in their schedule. However, 155 students from Willow Springs will be moving to a new school and into a new calendar. Those families will need to find new childcare for the 12 week break over the summer and arrange for not only a change in school and social structure but a complete disruption of their family's schedule.

Herbert Akins Rd ES (Year Round) has students being redistricted to 3 different traditional schools - Lincoln Heights, Fuquay Varina and Buckhorn Creek. 150 students from Herbert Akins will be pulled from YR calendar and place into traditional at Lincoln Heights.

Holly Grove and Herbert Akins Rd ES students (all year round) 350 student between these two schools will be moved to Buckhorn Creek (proposed traditional) another upending of hundreds of families and children's schedules.

Students from Fuquay Varina Elementary (traditional) are being moved to Herbert Akins Rd ES (Year Round) another disruption in school AND schedule for children and their families.

I do not have all the totals of all the transfers because despite reaching out to student assignment and every single board member - the data has not yet been shared. But from the numbers I do have, there are over 650 students being redistricted from year round to traditional schools. Additionally there are children being redistricted from traditional to Year Round.

This proposal has a total of 170 students being moved who are changing school but keeping their calendar. That shows the public - calendar change was clearly not taken into consideration when drawing up this reassignment proposal and that is simply not acceptable.

Our children deserve better.

The 'compromise' brought forward by the board to address this issue includes the following: -move one neighborhood from Buckhorn Creek base to Holly Grove (their current school) -open one additional YR application option a portion of Buckhorn Creek's base

This is not a compromise. This is an insufficient reaction to a poorly planned shift in student assignment. Over 650 children ages 5-10 residing in Holly Springs, Fuquay Varina and Willow Springs should not have chaos injected into their lives due to poor planning by Wake County Public Schools. Here is an idea - open Buckhorn Creek YR and fill it with the 655 year round students you are pulling off their calendar. Let traditional students stay at their traditional schools if they want year round, let them apply to BCES. Open BCES as a YR option for Oakview and Holly Ridge ES and allow the resulting opened seats to be the traditional calendar options for the Buckhorn Creek Base.

The current 'proposal' the board discussed on 12/13/17 is insufficient and unacceptable. Go back to work and make this right. Our children are worth the work.

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Amanda Liimatainen 4 months ago

Here we are again. No real resolution from our board or student assignment I've made the same polite requests, well thought out and diplomatic replies. I spent my day off ahead of Thanksgiving building the multicalendar proposal that provides an option for a traditional track in a year round calendar to try to find a compromise. Not one reply received from our board or student assignment that asked "how can we...." only, "we can't" or the numbers don't roll up perfectly. No offers of brainstorming. Only parents advocating digging for information and uncovering lies and omissions. Oakview was opened traditional, 18months ago. Many in the community wanted to remain at HSES in year round. It seems their applications were denied. Why? My answer is: because the School Assignment office needed to fill Oakview. HSES has sixteen trailers, 46total classrooms with 30 classrooms in use. I'd like to assume that the 16 unused classrooms are the trailers. Either way, in this latest proposal HSES is the 2nd YR option because HGES is capped. So my pretend option is to send my child on a ridiculously long bus ride to sit in a seat in a trailer (or displace another to a trailer) for the very seats that Oakview parents were denied. Stay with me here, are you ready for it? Oakview is getting 6 trailers. Six! Why? Because less than 2 years after opening they have a space issue. Class size mandates play a factor But this would not be near the issue if it were year round or is student there assignment didn't deny those applications. There is only one explanation for the swap between all these schools and calendars. They can say it's class size but that's a lie. I don't believe it. LHES->HARES. HARES->LHES. FVES->HARES. HARES->FVES. And so on. Test scores. Using our children to adjust as they see fit. Disrupting the calendar of over 600children. This isn't about BCES, it's just a convenient time to do the shuffle they feel the need to do to even the scores. Rather than supporting the lowered performing schools and helping the kids, they'll hide them and hope that the higher performing kids pull them up a bit. There is no doubt for the demand of YR in Holly Springs. But I'd they open it year round, they can't do all the shuffles. And if they open it traditional application they know there will not be enough demand to fill the school. School assignment has purposefully omitted information (OES and HRMS) from their current proposal and has never provided the data we've asked for repeatedly since the October 6th meeting. All these involved parents advocating for their children are a powerful for that could be harnessed. Imagine what they could do with our help. They refuse. And the board is complacent in it because student assignment will do what the board tells them to do. They will find a can do if they're tasked with it. Our district representative has never tasked them. All Elementary schools have to be opened traditional - not true
Wake wants traditional - not true It won't be finished on time to open Year round- not true

And since we've addressed all the things that aren't true I'll add something I know for a fact: Your constituents have a long memory for anything that impacts their children. We will vote. We will remind all of Wake County how much you cared for the stability of our children.

MakeBCESYearRound

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Jeremy Feldner 4 months ago

I demand that the Wake County Board of Education open Buckhorn Creek Elementary School as a year round calendar. Displacing more than 75% of current year-round students to populate a new traditional calendar school and completely ignoring the population growth in the surrounding area is ludicrous and irresponsible. A complete disconnect from the people who you are supposed to represent is unacceptable. The board has ignored the people and our needs while blindly accepting Staff Assignment recommendations. I for one will ensure that our needs are met by using my power of vote for the board and any new bonds the county purposes.

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Giorgio Galante 4 months ago

A lawsuit for fiscal mismanagement might be in order since we know YR schools offer larger capacity, which will be sorely needed in the next decade given the continued growth in southwestern wake area. Of course their answer will be a bond!

To the board: If Buckhorn opens traditional, it's a guaranteed vote against a bond for me. Stop wasting our tax dollars - you should be ashamed of yourselves.

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Alice Richards 4 months ago

I agree. If Buckhorn opens as traditional. I will be forced to vote against the bond.

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Craig Hill 4 months ago

Me three, if BCES opens as traditional I will be forced to vote against the bond. And I will actively campaign against the bond and promise that my family and my neighbors will all vote against it, too.

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Alice Richards 4 months ago

The school board has said that the class size mandate will cause schools to lose 140 seats per facility. It makes no sense that BCES would open on a traditional calendar. The school board is operating under outdated data. They need to fire their staff and they need to step down. I will also be voting against the next bond.

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Brooke Kavanagh 4 months ago

Thanks to those making decisions for reading this feedback.

We live in Springhill and are also negatively impacted by the current draft proposal, particularly with the misalignment of calendars. The outpouring of responses in this forum speak for themselves. All the indisputable reasons to open BCES as year-round, or at least allow students to remain in their current calendar school, are overwhelmingly undeniable.

Capped schools as options are bogus alternatives. There is no way you can legitimately justify the upheaval of so many families by opening BCES as traditional.

Please do not let irrelevant test scores and school performance cause you to treat children as pawns. Do the right thing. Do what only makes sense. Open BCES as year-round.

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Craig Hill 4 months ago

So the class size mandate means that schools will need 140 more seats. Where are you going to find this space? Will you be teaching kids in closets? Or will you try to out kids in unsafe trailers? YR schools offer more space. You are convinced that parents want traditional. Well let me ask you (them) this, if given a choice to be in a real classroom or an unsafe trailer, which would they pick? I can tell you that there is no way you would ever place my kid in an unsecured and unsafe trailer. Open BCES as YR and save your self from a situation where you are placing our children into harms way. Why do you want to hurt our kids? Why don't you care about their academic environment, their stability and their safety? Do the right thing.

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Kristin Malaer 4 months ago

So Years ago, Wake County had a huge problem on their hands when they were introducing Year Rounds schools and many many parents were upset about having their kids forced into a them and away from the traditional schools, which was all they had ever known. There was a lawsuit, the court ruled in favor of Wake County, basically, saying that Yes, Wake County can force their child onto a YR calendar. Fast Forward to now - NOW Wake County is telling the BCES Community that their child will now have to go to this traditional calendar school. This is an area that has ONLY known year round schools - they have been either assigned HGES (YR) or HARES (YR) - So, for YEARS, families have lived in this area with their base as YR schools - they have bought their houses specifically for certain calendar schools - AND they LOVE the YR schedule - parents and kids alike - and teachers too!! And we get it that new schools need to be built and that kids will have to be assigned to fill them - BUT when you take 84% of kids out of their current YR schools to fill a Traditional school - or rather, it's 74% now that you moved Garrison back to HGES - EVEN still 74% is STILL the majority of kids you are negatively affecting - EVERYONE is scratching our collective heads as to why you are doing this. This is one of the fastest growing areas in Wake County, and to deliberately open an elementary on a traditional calendar that holds less seats than a YR school shows incredibly bad judgement. EVEN YOU, the SCHOOL BOARD, can not logically explain why you are doing this. Have you all looked around the table at each other at the work sessions and has anyone said, "Hey guys, this is actually a pretty stupid decision, let's think twice about this one...." The BCES community, that have rallied and petitioned and begged to make BCES YR, have only heard excuses and downright lies up until now. And they will wear red when they show up at the polls. And should this make it to a lawsuit, then likely the courts will rule in favor of the school board to say that yes, you can force these families into a TR school - so legally, you will probably be just fine to vote for BCES to be TR. But, I believe that, morally, you are wrong. BUT, you are all politicians, and politicians are anything but moral.

PS - I am pretty tight with Santa - He told me that he will give you coal in your stocking if BCES remains traditional. Do the morally right thing and make BCES YR! You all can do it!

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Alisa Jardin 4 months ago

Make Buckhorn Creek Year Round or pull families from Traditional schools to fill "the need" that you say exists. Leave our current calendars alone. There's no reason I should be moved from a YR (HARES) to traditional (LH), while a mile away a friends family is being moved from traditional (FVES) to YR (HARES)!!!

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