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UPDATE 10/03: We have set the dates and locations for information sessions regarding Draft 1. These Open House-style sessions will focus on providing information about the changes in their respective geographic areas. Please plan on attending the session nearest to you. All events will take place in the evening. We will announce specific times soon, but we are sharing the dates now for your planning convenience. 

 

  • 10/24: Salem Elementary School, 6116 Old Jenks Road, Apex
  • 10/29: Fuquay-Varina High School (future home of Willow Spring High School), 1704 Old Honeycutt Road, Fuquay-Varina
  • 10/30: Wakefield High School, 2200 Wakefield Pines Drive, Raleigh

 

On Oct. 1, staff members presented Draft 1 of a new Student Enrollment Proposal to the Board of Education.

The proposal includes proposed school assignment changes for both the 2020-21 and 2021-22 school years.

This is the beginning of a community conversation that is scheduled to conclude with the school board adopting a final plan on Dec. 3.

Find out if you are proposed to be affected.

You are encouraged to visit www.wcpss.net/2020enrollmentproposal for more information about the proposal and to check for updates as the process moves forward.

 

Why is this being proposed?

To keep up with population growth and prevent the overcrowding of schools, we’re building two new schools: 

  • South Lakes Elementary, 1433 Old Honeycutt Road, Fuquay-Varina, opening in August 2020

  • Willow Spring High School, 1704 Old Honeycutt Road, Fuquay-Varina, opening in August 2021

The majority of proposed school assignment changes will be related to the opening of these two new schools in Fuquay-Varina.

Other components of the proposal are aimed at relieving overcrowded schools, better utilizing under-enrolled schools, and improving transportation efficiency. 

 

How can I ask questions and provide feedback?

The best way to provide feedback and ask questions about the proposal is to visit our online forum. This will ensure staff members, school board members and your fellow parents see your questions and feedback. Staff members will respond to questions in a timely fashion. Staff members and board members will also review and consider all feedback as they work toward a second draft of the proposal and, ultimately, the final approved plan. 

 

What is the process for arriving at a final plan?

We will respond to questions and review feedback online for the next several weeks. We also will host three Open House public information sessions where you can learn more about the proposal and ask questions of staff members. We will announce dates and locations soon.

Staff members will present Draft 2 to the school board for discussion on Nov. 5. A public hearing will be held on Nov. 19, providing the opportunity to speak before the full board. A final vote is expected on Dec. 3.

Proposal: Some students at Fuquay-Varina Middle School would be assigned to North Garner Middle; others would be assigned to West Lake Middle.

Purpose: Reduces overcrowding at Fuquay-Varina Middle.

Please share your questions and feedback about these proposed changes in the thread below.

 

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Susan Cannaday 16 days ago

Are kids that are already at FVMS, and on a traditional schedule going to have to go to year-round WLMS? I purposely have avoided this school for my second child!

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Matt Dees admin 16 days ago

Susan, that portion of the proposed policy just applies to those students affected by this proposed change, having to do with students attending their calendar application school - or "calendar option." https://www.wcpss.net/Page/40942

Sorry for the confusion. I have tried to clarify that on grandfathering page.

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Susan Cannaday 16 days ago

Well, how come we don't get a calendar option? We are now on traditional and have no desire to move back to year round.

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Matt Dees admin 16 days ago

Hi Susan. This is Matt Dees in the WCPSS Communications office. Yes, some students from Fuquay-Varina Middle are proposed to be assigned to West Lake Middle under this Draft 1 proposal. Have you typed in your address to see if you are proposed to have a new assignment? http://wwwgis2.wcpss.net/addressLookup/proposalFirstDraft/

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Susan Cannaday 16 days ago

So, since you deleted my last reply, my question is, did I read, correctly, that, since my son is to be reassigned from traditional calendar to year round, that he can request to stay, though, without transportation? What a cluster this is!

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Matt Dees admin 16 days ago

Have you checked your proposed application schools in the address look-up? You may still have a proposed designated calendar application school. http://wwwgis2.wcpss.net/addressLookup/proposalFirstDraft/ You may also want to call the Office of Student Assignment at 919-431-7333 and a representative can walk you through your potential options.

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Susan Cannaday 16 days ago

Of course I checked, which is why I'm in this forum. Our base elementary is year round. Our base middle has ALWAYS been FVMS, with WL as the calendar option. Now it's straight WL, with no option. As I said, I have experienced 3 yrs at WLMS, and have, purposely chosen to have my son go to his, current, traditional base, FVMS. Continual changing of calendars, is unfair, and, frankly, unacceptable!

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Matt Dees admin 16 days ago

Susan, under the proposed grandfathering rules, students rising to 8th grade in 2020-21 who are affected by this proposal would be eligible to grandfather and stay at their current school. Any younger siblings would be eligible to grandfather for one year. After one year, siblings would be assigned to their new base school. Grandfathered students do not receive district transportation.

Does this answer your question?

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Susan Cannaday 16 days ago

Actually, no, I saw that, but there is a separate section for kids with a calendar change. Says ALL students can request to stay at current school, without transportation. It's at the bottom of the "grandfather" link you shared.

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Teresa Renken 16 days ago

We have also.. my older two went to West Lake worst school! Hated every second of it! It looks like Fuquay-Varina Middle is going to be renovated! https://www.wcpss.net/Page/3925?pid=227

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Sara Landis 16 days ago

I have the same question as the one before me asked, will students already enrolled at FVMS have to change? Our child is a 7th grader at FVMS and would be devastated if he had to change schools his last year before high school. I desperately hope this has been considered during the change proposal.

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Matt Dees admin 16 days ago

Hi Sara. Rising 8th graders would be eligible to grandfather and stay at their current school under this proposal. Grandfathered students are not eligible for district transportation. https://www.wcpss.net/Page/40945

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Jennifer Mills 16 days ago

I am in the process of buying a house on Old Stage Rd in Willow Springs, not far from where I now live. I need to have all of my children on the same school calendar and because my oldest is in high school that means I opt for the traditional calendar. I do not understand why a child in southern wake county would be assigned to North Garner Middle and given the calendar option of Dillard Drive Middle over Fuquay Varina Middle? That is the current calendar option, it is much closer and makes much more sense for a student who will be attending Willow Spring High school.

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Teresa Renken 16 days ago

Is Fuquay-Varina Middle being closed and renovated?

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Susan Cannaday 16 days ago

No, it's not

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Teresa Renken 16 days ago

Did you see the link I posted earlier? https://www.wcpss.net/Page/3925?pid=227

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Susan Cannaday 16 days ago

They're doing it in parts, and aren't closing it

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Teresa Renken 16 days ago

Nvmd it was sent to me but it's just in planning phase..

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Sue F 16 days ago

This is not an acceptable school assignment for families in Willow Spring. My child who goes to Willow Spring Elem.(because it’s the closest school to my house but isn’t my base) should NOT be assigned to a middle school that is 10 miles away in North Garner. There would be no kids we know there and no older neighbors there. West Lake Middle is 5 miles from my house. I live near the intersection of Old Stage Rd and 42. *****Please revisit your child enrollment stats from my area, about 95% of the families in middle and elementary school are NOT at the base schools you have assigned us to over the last 5 years. So moving us now doesn’t flow with the changes you’ve already allowed families to make.

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Teresa Renken 16 days ago

Why was there another elementary school built in Willow Springs one mile from Willow Springs? It should have been a Middle School..

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Ashley Hodges 16 days ago

We had our base school changed from FVMS to WLMS with the calendar option now being HRMS. Please reconsider busing students all the way to Holly Springs just for middle school. My children will make friends in Fuquay for elementary, go to Holly Springs for middle, only to be shifted back to the Fuquay area for high school.

I understand wanting to align the calendar from Banks to West Lake, but please make the calendar option FVMS. We live off of Air Park Road in Fuquay Varina.

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Nora Sherwood 16 days ago

Please explain to me how you think it is acceptable for our children to go to three different cities for their school career. Raleigh for Elementary, Garner for Middle and then Willow Spring for High. They can not make any lasting impacts nor relationships with being shuffled around this much. We live in Willow Spring and love our school. My son has been thrilled about attending FVMS with all of his friends and now you want to move us to Garner where he will know no one. We have been on track 1 for years and now you are putting us in a track 4 only school, with Dillard Drive (clear out in Cary over 30 minutes drive) as our other year round option? I am so completely confused. I was under the impression that we would either stay at WSES or go to SLES since we live in WS, not be moved into Garner/Raleigh schools. This is simply unacceptable to my family.

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Jennifer Mills 16 days ago

The grandfathering option would be great if I didn't have to be at work at 7:30 am. I depend on the bus to get my middle schooler to school. Under this plan I would have one kid at Fuquay/ Willow Spring High, one at Dillard Drive Middle, and another at Aversboro Elementary. Not to mention my 3 year old at daycare in Fuquay. That's if I choose traditional calendar. If I go with year round my kids would be on different calendars and my middle schooler would be at North Garner. Heaven forbid I ever have to pick them all up from school for a dentist appointment. That would be an all day affair!

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Caryn Johnson 16 days ago

Can you confirm that if our current 7th grader at FVMS was grandfathered for 8th grade, then our current 5th grader could go there for 6th and stay at FVMS through 8th? Transportation needs to be provided for grandfathered students. It is unreasonable to expect families to provide the transportation.

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Matt Dees admin 15 days ago

Sorry for the confusion Caryn, but the grandfathering provision for calendar application students just applies to those proposed to be affected by this change: https://www.wcpss.net/site/Default.aspx?PageID=40938 It's for a small number of students currently attending particular calendar application schools, i.e. attending a year-round school when their base it traditional. We are proposing to remove a number of schools as potential calendar application schools, or calendar options, as they were previously known. Have attempted to clarify this on the grandfathering page.

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Matt Dees admin 16 days ago

Caryn, under the proposed grandfathering rules, yes your rising 8th grader would be able to grandfather and stay at Fuquay-Varina Middle next year without transportation. Your rising 6th grader would be able to stay next year for one year, but would then move to the new school assignment for 7th and 8th grade. https://www.wcpss.net/Page/40945

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Caryn Johnson 14 days ago

If that is the case then either siblings need to be able the stay the whole three years or, even better, let FVMS be our traditional option. For years WCPSS has messed with our little section of the county (off Airpark Road), almost all of our base Elementary went to HGMS, even addresses much further from the school, and our little area was FVMS. We dealt with that, moved our elementary kids to our traditional option and followed the rules. Don’t mess with us again and ship our kids all the way over to Holly Ridge AND split families between middle schools because you will not let siblings stay the whole three years. You are sending tons of YR rising 6th graders (WSES students for example) to traditional FVMS as their base, there should be seats set aside for current FVMS families and families who are already traditional option rising 6th graders. You are completely leaving out those of us who are already FVMS families with traditional option Elementary current 5th graders/rising 6th graders.

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Caryn Johnson 15 days ago

Matt, The proposal very clearly says those being affected by calendar option changes can stay the whole time. We are not only being changed from traditional to year round (when we also have traditional elementary kids), but the calendar option is not even our traditional school where we currently are and have always been. Please explain why my rising 6th grader would not be able to stay the whole three years. How on earth would we be expected to get between FVMS for our grandfathered child and HRMS or WLMS for after school activities, any school events or anything? That is unreasonable to expect from families and forcing either child to switch schools mid-middle school so they can be at the same middle school is not good for their education or them socially and certainly does not fall under WCPSS’s goal of stability. Airpark Road has always been a small area of Banks Base that was FVMS, we planned for it (uprooted our two younger kids from Banks and moved them to our traditional option last year when our oldest went to FVMS). Now you want to put us at YR middle school or a totally different traditional middle school while you are leaving FVMS as the base middle for Willow Springs ES families. Feed them to West Lake, YR feeding to YR, and let us have FVMS at a minimum as our traditional option. I get addressing overcrowding at FVMS, we are there, but none of this falls in line with the goals of operational efficiency (bus us right past FVMS at the new location then another 10 minutes to HRMS), stability, or what is best for the students and families.

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Teresa Renken 16 days ago

Can my now 6th grader/ then 7th grader stay at FVMS? If not this will be the second time in 3 years he has been moved. Why is it being said it's a move to fill the new High and Elementary schools, but FVMS is being affected? Very upset and frustrated!

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Matt Dees admin 16 days ago

Hi Teresa, Under this proposal only rising 8th graders would be allowed to grandfather and stay at their current school. The proposed changes to Fuquay-Varina Middle are strictly about reducing crowding at FVMS. Here's the language from this page: https://www.wcpss.net/Page/40943 Purpose: Reduces overcrowding at Fuquay-Varina Middle (121% projected capacity in 2020-21 with no changes). This is particularly important because Fuquay-Varina Middle will be using Herbert Akins Middle for two years starting in 2022 while a new building is under construction. The current student population at Fuquay-Varina Middle of about 1120 would not fit in the Herbert Akins Middle building, which has a capacity of 936.

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Matt Dees admin 16 days ago

Parents, this is Matt Dees with WCPSS communications. Just a note to say that we welcome feedback and questions on this site, even critical ones, but please be respectful. We will delete any comments that contain vulgar comments or personal attacks.

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Bonnie Duncan 16 days ago

Hey Matt - is there a full map of the current assignment plan recommendations that you could provide a direct link to apart from the address look up tool?

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Matt Dees admin 16 days ago

Bonnie, here is a link to yesterday's board presentation, including maps for all the proposed changes. There are before and after maps in the main presentation and detailed proposed base attendance maps at the end of the presentation. https://www.wcpss.net/Page/40944 Let me know if this gets you what you need.

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Zulema Yanez 15 days ago

I think it is ridiculous for this proposed school assignment. I understand having to make changes because Fuquay is over populated and many schools are over crowded. I just think it is unfair and very inconsiderate. Under this proposal my current 6th grader who would be a 7th grader next school year, who just started FVMS would be moved to WLMS? Is there an option for him to get Grandfather? If he would get grandfather how would it affect my current 5th grader, who would be a 6th grader next year? Why can't transportation not be offered to children who are grandfather? It's just ridiculous for my new base assignment for MS to be WLMS or the application option of HRMS. This is just inconvenient because for me FVMS is closer in case I need to get to the school for anything. It's frustrating to have WLMS as the base school that from my address it is 8.1 miles or 14 mins. and it depends on traffic. HRMS is 9.4 miles or 18 min and also depends on traffic. FVMS is 5.3 miles or 10 min traffic is always a factor. This proposal is not very considerate of parents and children. Why make assignments that are more far, it makes no sense. It's just ridiculous that around my area there are 5 ES with the new SLES to 1 MS. For me switching them to a YR is not an option and plain ridiculous. This has not been thought out to see how parents feel and most importantly the children. I don't agree with this and for me it's inconsiderate and frustrating. Not to mention the kids that have to move and make new friends again so they can just leave them at the end because they are moved to a different HS.

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Matt Dees admin 15 days ago

Zulema, under the proposed grandfathering rules your current 6th grader would not be eligible to grandfather. https://www.wcpss.net/Page/40945

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Ashley Hodges 15 days ago

Matt, Thank you for all of your responses. I have another question, is there a map showing what students are being given the option of FVMS as their calendar application school? What areas are being given that option?

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Ashley Hodges 15 days ago

Zulema, I completely agree! The board needs to think about the repercussions of changing students to three different towns throughout their school career! Why are Fuquay students being sent to Holly Springs schools? Makes no sense!

Matt, are there other options on the table for keeping the calendar option of FVMS to students living in Fuquay Varina?

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Matt Dees admin 15 days ago

Ashley, FVMS is currently not a calendar application school option and not proposed to be an option.

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Matt Dees admin 15 days ago

Ashley, keeping FVMS as a calendar application school would work against the reason for the proposed reassignment, which is to relieve crowding at FVMS.

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Nancy Adams 15 days ago

In other words, don't bother thinking WCPSS is going to change anything on the FVMS changes. This is a done deal.

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Ashley Hodges 14 days ago

Matt,

Just a follow-up question from our previous discussion, so FVMS is not a calendar option for any students? Also, based on the maps it looks like a large amount of willow springs students are being sent to FVMS. Would you be open to looking at sending those students to a year round school so that traditional students could feed into the traditional school in their area?

One more, has the board thought about having a track that students follow in their academic career. For example, if you exit FVES then you'll be sent to FVMS. If you exit WSES, then you'll be sent to HGMS. Would there be an issue with that? If a student wanted to change their track they could apply, but students already on that track have priority.

Looking forward to your response!

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Matt Dees admin 14 days ago

Correct, FVMS is not a calendar application school. Cannot answer your other questions, but staff and board members can consider those suggestions as they consider changes to the proposal.

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Caryn Johnson at October 07, 2019 at 9:45pm EDT

I emailed with our school board rep about exactly what Ashley is suggesting and completely agree. Please consider leaving seats at FVMS for students who are already traditional, have traditional siblings and families already at the school. Why should kids coming out of year round elementary schools be fed to FVMS when there are year round middle schools they could feed to. We understand FVMS is overcrowded, we have a 7th grader there. Traditional year families should be assigned to FVMS before year round families. Please consider current calendars in the revisions, that aligns with WCPSS’s goals is keeping siblings on the same calendar and at the same schools. Thank you.

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Melissa Alderson at October 04, 2019 at 9:25am EDT

My family just purchased a home in Kendall Hills subdivision off Old Stage and 42 this past June. One of the main reasons we purchased this home was to get our children into traditional calendar so next year they can be on the same schedule and keep them in Fuquay Schools. My 7th grader attends FVMS and my 5th grader (next year will be 6th grader) is now zoned for Garner Middle? Our new high school will be Willow Springs which makes sense as it is 5 mins down the road. But why would we be zoned for Garner middle? My soon to be 6th grader will be shipped off to Garner for 3 years than go to Willow Springs High where she will know no one?!? At this age they are already so fragile and need have to a solid surrounding of friends and support. Also take into consideration switching Kendall Hills subdivision will make the commute to middle school 45 mins vs 15? Please keep Kendall Hills subdivision in Willow Springs, NC zoned for Fuquay Middle.

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Nancy Adams at October 04, 2019 at 12:37pm EDT

Here we go again. My subdivision Willow Bluffs, at the corner of Old Stage and Norman Blalock, was redisctriced two years ago for our elementary school. We were pulled out of Willow Springs ES and sent to Banks Rd ES. My son, a then rising 4th grader reluctantly made the switch to Banks Rd. Here we are again two years later and the same kids are going through redistricting again. My same son, who is now a rising 6th grader, was planning on joining his rising 8th grade sister at FVMS, which was going to be wonderful because they would both be on the same calendar. But, again, he is being redistricted - this time for middle school to West Lake MS. Yes, I realize that grandfathering would be available to him as a 6th grader due to his rising 8th grade sister, but without guarantee of him staying for 7th and 8th grade, it would be unfair to do that to him. So it seems our options are: move my 8th grader to WLMS for them both to attend, send my 6th grader to Holly Ridge MS in Holly Springs to keep them both on traditional calendar, or have one child at WLMS on a year round calendar and another child at FVMS on a traditional calendar. None of those are appealing options. Please consider keeping the Willow Bluffs subdivision at FVMS and not using the same exact children you used two years ago to balance out another overcrowded school.

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Bonnie Duncan at October 04, 2019 at 1:05pm EDT

Dear Board of Education Members and staff- With specific consideration of the movement of students from my area, south of Hwy 42 off Old Stage Road (the east side of Old Stage; Kendall Hills subdivision), from Fuquay Middle School to the recommended base options of North Garner and Dillard Drive Middle Schools I ask that you strongly consider the following information. From the personal side, I understand how these recommendations arrived in the Envision document for the 2020-21 school year based on the information considered. More specifically, I understand the need for changes to account for school renovation upgrades and new schools in general. I also understand and know that no one wants to see their children move further from home or be displaced from their peer groups and staff who know and love these kids. That to me says a lot about the staff our county and school administrators hire, and the passion our community shares for these schools and our kids. It honestly makes me proud to be a part of this community and drives my enthusiasm to be such an active part of both the schools my kids are enrolled in.
On the logistical side and as a participant in “the movement” already, with a daughter who is a 9th grader at Fuquay Varina High School (FVHS) in the temporary Willow Springs High School space, we were excited to get to experience the brand new school environment with amazing upgrades, facilities and space. This space is also only 4 miles from our home which is record setting travel distance for our family to get our kids to and from school. As FVHS opened in this new space this past August, traffic logistics were not adequately addressed and this has led to many dangerous and frustrating experiences for parents and students at this new and beautiful location. For example, the new high school is exactly 4.6 miles from my home, but it takes me 20 minutes to get there as I live on the east side of the school and cannot make a left turn into the drop off / staff parking lot entrance (off Honeycutt Road) at drop off time or at pick-up time due to hazardous road conditions, traffic and a police officer. Fuquay Police are heavily involved directing traffic at both of these times to help keep travelling commuters (who are not part of the school community), parents and students safe. Student accidents have occurred directly in front of the school due to not having a stoplight at Kennebec and Honeycutt Roads, but also due to the massively increased traffic pattern surrounding the school adding more than 2,200 to that corner. To make matters worse, parents unwilling to make the long commute to Highway 55 and Honeycutt Road so that they can make a right turn into the school (as Fuquay Varina Police staff are requiring), are dropping their kids off in the dark to cross over a heavily trafficked Kennebec Road. Keep in mind, this is the side of the school ALL of the driving and bus riding students must enter on and these kids are crossing in front of new drivers and people who have NOTHING to do with the school who are not paying attention like parents. These are all issues Dr. Robinson (our Area Superintendent), Mr. McCotter (our principal), Wake County Transportation staff as well as Fuquay Varina Planning, and Police staff are all working actively to address – but I mention it all here as it’s a very important learning experience for what these Envision recommendations could easily bring but on a much larger and even more dangerous scale. As a side note, I want to point out that busing is not an option for my child at FVHS as she student teaches and is on an Elite Dance Company in Fuquay Varina immediately after school.
The recommended changes for my location are to move my middle school child to North Garner Middle as his base or Dillard Drive Middle as his traditional calendar option. To keep my kids on the same schedule and to keep my work time / load and my husband’s work time manageable, for orchestrating many things both inside and outside of our school days, work and other plans we make, we would prefer our children be on the same schedule as I think most families would prefer. Dillard Drive is simply out of our reach for travel and I cannot even imagine how long a bus ride this would be for our son from where we live to this location. This is simply unreasonable. I live exactly 5 miles from the Harnett County line, within the very bottom point of Wake County. I will address my concerns regarding that recommendation after I respond to the “base recommendation” of North Garner Middle School.
Apart from the concerns I have regarding putting my children on two different schedules, my concerns for North Garner are even more immense due to several factors. The lead issue is the construction of I-540, slated to begin this year and well into the next few years. Within the impact area there are at least 3 major exit ramps as well as at least 4 overpasses which will be newly constructed truly circumventing our access to Garner from the south (from Highway 401 to Benson Road /Highway 50 and even as far as I-40 - basically all our access north into Garner). As a previous Supervisor with the NC Division of Mitigation Services, I worked closely with the NC Department of Transportation for years. I understand well how the Transportation Improvement Plan and the road planning, budgeting, and development / implementation process works. There are two sections of this development (R-2721 and R-2828) which will cover from Highway 55 to I-40, that currently have awarded design-build contracts in place. Based on this progress, the notion of construction is no longer papers and documents, it is slated to actively begin by the end of this year and well into the next few years. I encourage you to verify this information at: https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/complete-540/Pages/default.aspx or by contacting Dennis Jerrigan, P.E., the Director of Highway Operations with the Turnpike Authority for NC Department of Transportation. These are very important factors for consideration.
From where I live specifically, our main access and the most efficient way to get to North Garner from our home is to travel Old Stage Road to Vandora Springs Road. These roads are already HEAVILY traveled by people in our area heading into downtown and north Raleigh and people travelling to get to I-40 which is exactly why the 540 construction has been a priority for years. NC Department of Transportation’s Improvement Program has had this road on the needs list and has planned for it for several years due to growth and development needs and pressures. This existing problem along with necessary construction, are and will be further impacted as Old Stage and Vandora Springs Roads (and every other access point we have to get into Garner apart from Hwy 401) are 2 lane roads which makes navigating or traveling anywhere only as fast as the car in front of you.
Compounding these issues is the time factor as there are two established elementary schools within our path to get to North Garner Middle School with very similar hours. This is important to realize as people coming from my area as well as buses will have to leave very early and may be returning very late as our timing will be unpredictable due to other schools beginning and ending carpool times as well as traffic and construction delays. North Garner Middle School’s hours of operation are from 8:30am-3:15pm. To get to North Garner, I have to directly pass both Vance Elementary School which operates 8:15AM-3:45PM and Vandora Springs Elementary School, which operates from 8:30AM-3:00PM. I know the start and stop times are staggered a small amount to allow for shared busing, timing, etc. but this recommendation forces parents from my area to be actively on these roads at the times other schools are also accommodating drop off and pick up, again on 2 lane roads. These obstacles will further impede the roads and create delays and even more hazardous conditions. If the hours of operation begin at 8:30am, parents are usually able to drop their kids off about 30 minutes ahead of that to eat breakfast if needed, and take care of other things before they begin their instructional day. This puts us ALL in the heat of normal rush hour within our area, not to even mention the school’s massive drop off and exodus.
When looking at the census / “heat” maps and Google Maps I fully understand and see how the North Garner recommendation was made, however what looks like a 12 mile, not too far drive, is truly impeded by several obstacles that neither the census map nor Google Maps can account for. The traditional school recommendation for Dillard Drive will have many of the very same complicating factors that getting to North Garner Middle School has from our area with a much further distance to travel. From my home just on Google Maps the distance is more than 16 miles and noted as a 30 minute drive time. This is another area that requires travel by two lane roads that are heavily impacted by new construction, major surrounding development and other school timing issues. My main access to Dillard Drive Middle is via Hilltop Road (which puts me in the throes of all the traffic surrounding Optimist Farm Road where West Lake Middle, Elementary, and Middle Creek High School and Elementary all exist and operate) or Ten-Ten Road to Yates Mill Pond Road directly passing Yates Mill Elementary conflicting with another school during rush hour times. My daughter attended West Lake Middle School and that commute was 30 minutes from my driveway – and I’m very familiar with the traffic complications in that area. Dillard Drive will be a much longer commute than even that.
I strongly encourage you to rethink and reconsider our reassignment recommendations for my area. Traffic and development are something we all have to live with and adapt to, but we have to think more logistically and practically about who is being moved based on these well documented coming impacts and occurrences this year and in the next few years limiting and constraining our access especially to the north.

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Curtis Ayers at October 05, 2019 at 9:38pm EDT

If I am assigned to North Garner middle from FV middle, will I gave a traditional calendar option? There is not one in the address look up tool.

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Nora Sherwood at October 06, 2019 at 1:40pm EDT

Dillard Drive clear in CARY

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Matt Dees admin at October 08, 2019 at 10:31am EDT

Curtis, sorry for delayed reply, but confirming that Nora Sherwood is correct. Dillard Drive is the proposed traditional calendar application school.

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Curtis Ayers at October 05, 2019 at 9:45pm EDT

Most of the other changes kind of make since but the middle school changes do not look as if they are well thought out. Why don't you try to keep kids closer to the school. There is a big area up 401 that is assigned to holly grove that looks like it should be assigned the north garner and then those kids would be closer to there school.

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Jenny Dean at October 06, 2019 at 2:40pm EDT

We recently moved off of 42 in willow springs. I have 4 kids ranging from 12-2. This current recommendation will put my children in schools in Raleigh, Garner and Willow Springs, each of the proposed schools other than the hs is 30+ minutes from our home. I think it is completely unfair to our pocket of the area that our children are being thrown into a map without any regard for them rather they are just a number that needs to be moved to receive overcrowding. How is that our fault? How can I as a parent support my children in 3 different schools in 3 different cities??? How can I as a parent support those 3 schools or be an active part of the community my children attend school in when I am 30 min away from each of them.? How can my children ever feel like they can get to make any lasting relationships with children who will never attend each of the schools they are being assigned to all over the map? I am so saddened by this decision. My son currently attends FvMS my daughter willow springs elementary and I have one entering kindergarten next year and another coming up. We do dance, baseball, doctors, dentists, church, gymnastics soccer, basketball in FV moving our kids to Garner for middle school will seriously hinder all of these things. Please please please reconsider this change to North Garner Middle. It is bad for parents and children alike. The alternate option of Dillard Drive is equally ridiculous.

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Jenny Dean at October 06, 2019 at 3:00pm EDT

Forgot to mention that it seems strange to me that with the opening of south lakes elementary school that the children of willow springs can not go to willow springs elementary. We are literally 9 min away from wses and 15 from Vance. How, with the moving of so many children from wses to sles are the residence of willow springs still not able to attend wses?

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Amy Sikes at October 08, 2019 at 9:56am EDT

October 7, 2019

Dear Wake County Board of Education and staff: We appreciate your time and efforts to manage and coordinate any project associated with improving the Wake County Public School system. We live in Wake County, District 2, primarily for this wonderful school system and value the education our kids are receiving. We understand this is the largest system in the North Carolina so these tasks are certainly arduous. We’ve been residents to Wake County for over 22 years, and have lived in the southern Wake area for over 15 years. My husband is a native North Carolinian and is a Land Use Planner, while I have commuted to north Raleigh on a daily basis for 15 years, so we know this area well and can foresee more issues on the horizon if this redistricting plan goes forward as written. As Wake County’s population continues to grow proper planning will be paramount to handle new students. Every two or three years of redistricting cannot be the best answer for the kids, parents, staff, elected officials, etc. Constant redistricting seems to be a temporary solution to a consistent problem. Every time a new redistricting plan is announced our family gets a nervous, fearful feeling. Wake County development patterns are not sporadic and master plans are designed to account for such regional issues.
In regards to Draft 1 of the 2020-2021 Enrollment Proposal, assignments from Fuquay Middle to North Garner and Dillard Drive Middle, our family with three school age children (7th, 5th and K) strongly object to this proposal. We live 0.8 of a mile south of Highway 42 off Old Stage Road in the Kendall Hills subdivision (5 miles from the Harnett County line). As proposed within Draft 1, our current options are North Garner Middle School (track 4 only) and Dillard Drive Middle School (traditional). These two options would create an extreme hardship on our family as our three children are on a year-round calendar, Track 1.
If Census data is being used as a tool for redistricting, etc, then using the basic Census Tract maps provides a geographic reference to support why students within Kendall Hills subdivision should not be sent to the proposed middle schools (a map for reference will be emailed to staff & Board members). Morning and evening commute times continue to increase, with numerous congestion points along two lane Old Stage Road at the Hwy 42, Ten Ten Road, and Vandora Springs intersections. The current Metropolitan Transportation Plan (MTP 2040) does not project Old Stage Road to be improved anytime soon, nor to include improvements to all of these already congested intersections. For reference, a map with traffic counts will be emailed to staff & Board members. This information is applicable at these intersections, as well at intersections of potential travel routes if going to Dillard or North Garner Middle. Per Google®, using basic mileage and posted speed limits to estimate travel time, a route without any construction or traffic delays to North Garner is approximately 12 miles and 24 minute drive to or a 16 mile 30 minute commute to Dillard Drive Middle. Additionally, the construction pertaining to other projects (surrounding residential and infrastructure development) and more extensively as associated with the SE portion of the Triangle Expressway/ Hwy 540, commutes will be even more extended. (a map for reference will be emailed to staff & Board members). If additional school traffic is added, the above traffic numbers and commute times will double if not triple for many households in Kendall Hills. We do not understand why neighborhoods along Old Stage Road just north and south of Kendall Hills/Hwy 42 are being sent to schools all over; Blalock Forest: ¾ mile north of Highway 42 on Old Stage Road kids going to West Lake; Honeycutt Landing: 2 ½ miles south of Highway 42 on Old Stage Road are going to Fuquay Varina schools. Why are Kendall Hill students proposed to go to Dilliard Drive or North Garner? Moving students to other schools during construction of new schools or renovation of old schools should not cause such a disruption to students and their families. Wake County voters continue to vote for school bonds, etc, so applying a portion of these funds to use with additional transportation could be a future benefit. Perhaps a potential partnership with GoRaleigh, GoTriangle, and others could be formed for student transportation. Also, driver/ job training and driver promotional options to recruit new drivers could be considered. One factor that was listed for this enrollment proposal was to improve transportation efficiency. This does not seem to be a possibility with the limited transportation options that are provided. It is a contradiction to send Kendall Hills students to Dillard Drive Middle and/ or North Garner Middle. So, please consider the traffic, construction, and extreme hardship and exclude Kendall Hills from this redistricting. Thank you for your time and cooperation, Amy & James Sikes

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Sandy Chen at October 08, 2019 at 11:25am EDT

My kid( 1st grade) attend White Oak elementary in the current year and the proposed move is to Salem ES. We bought a house in the neighborhood that they can attend White oaks Traditional and not a YR school. My kid love the school. And White Oak school is much nearer to our home compared to Salem ES.

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Teresa Renken at October 09, 2019 at 5:57pm EDT

I'm confused as to why my child was changed from his Elementary School in the 2018-2019 School. He again is placed with his friends then a year later get sent to another school. This is BS. When he was pulled from WSES they lost teachers. Then one mile down the road you build another elementary school next to the new high school. Why? I'm telling you this is why children can't make and keep life long friends. My child for the last few years go to as many schools as some of my family in the military. This is unacceptable. My son should not have to be moved so many times.

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Nora Sherwood at October 10, 2019 at 10:37pm EDT

Where is the map of the lines? I can't find it. I've heard Old Stage Rd is the cut off to Fuquay and Willow Springs schools. Is that true? If so, I strongly recommend that you make Mt. Pleasant Rd the cut off. There are only a handful of houses on Mt. Pleasant Rd that would love to be able to stay in their school district. Please consider keeping our kids with their own town and their own friends rather than putting them in Cary or Garner. At least give us the option to apply/transfer and drive them in.

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