To keep up with projected growth in some parts of the county and prevent the overcrowding of schools, we’re opening three new schools:

Other parts of the proposal are aimed at relieving some overcrowded schools, increasing the base attendance areas at under-utilized schools, and improving transportation efficiency. 

Some students affected by this proposal will be able to submit a stability transfer and remain at their current school. Review the stability rules.

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Find the thread below that applies to you and share any questions and feedback. Staff and board members review questions and feedback as they prepare for the second draft of the proposal, which is scheduled to be presented to the board on Nov. 16. View timeline.

This new K-5 elementary school will open in August 2022 at 12004 Strickland Road, Raleigh, as a traditional calendar school. See if you are proposed to attend the new school.  Please share your feedback about this proposal below.
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Leo Trendowicz 20 days ago

I ask that you please consider re-zoning Norwood Place Court for Baileywick ES (or Sycamore Creek) and Pinehollow MS - we are a new neighborhood of only 6 houses with only a handful of school aged kids so this will not throw off the numbers anywhere by more than a couple of kids.

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Read Gentry 20 days ago

When will a principal and administration be announced for Barton's Pond as well as what the curriculum looks like? My child has learned to read through letterland, while I understand that other students being placed there have learned to read an entirely different way. How will this be addressed and what will enrichment programing look like at Barton's Pond?

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Taylor Rhyne 20 days ago

Hi Read, Letterland is part of the WCPSS curriculum and is taught in every school grades K-2.

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Corallie Tornow admin 19 days ago

Hey Read, Letterland is the primary foundational skills core instructional program for all WCPSS students K-2. We are checking on your other questions.

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Corallie Tornow admin 18 days ago

Hey Read,

The Barton Pond principal should be announced in December. That person will then work to hire the rest of their administration team. We are waiting to hear back about your curriculum question.

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Rebekah Wilson 20 days ago

My child attends his base school (Jeffreys Grove) however he is part of the Spanish Immersion magnet program. How do the stability rules apply for that scenario? Will he be able to remain in Jeffreys Grove as a magnet student? Also, will his younger sibling be prioritized for the magnet school, who is planned to start Kindergarten in 2022?

If we are able to remain in the school as a magnet student, when we will find out if busing will be included for the magnet school?

Seeing the slides from the working meeting I noticed that there are some capacity utilization numbers associated with this proposal. For Jeffreys Grove, do the capacity utilization percentages account for the base students that are in the magnet program? My understanding is that half of the magnet program is filled with base students.

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Corallie Tornow admin 19 days ago

Hi Rebekah, Any base students who are reassigned out of Jeffreys Grove that are in the immersion classes will be eligible to return and remain as magnet students. Student assignment staff will reach out to the eligible families to discuss options. Any rising K siblings would need to fill out a magnet/YR application prior to January 27, 2022. Magnet students at Jeffreys Grove would not receive district transportation. The utilization numbers account for all students attending that school, not just base students.

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Rebekah Wilson 19 days ago

Thank you for the information, we will start to learn more about the magnet application process. I'd ask you to please consider district transportation to Jeffreys Grove for magnet students who were base students that have their base school being re-assigned. With so many students concentrated in an area it would be greatly appreciated to be able to keep neighborhood busing.

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Seth Whitworth 20 days ago

My child is currently zoned for Apex Friendship but this proposal would have him going to Middle Creek? I don't see this outlined anywhere in the proposal. Middle Creek is farther away from either Apex Friendship or Apex HS. Plus all the elementary and middle school is zoned for Apex ES and MS, so my kids will transfer to a school farther away with no classmates?

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Corallie Tornow admin 20 days ago

Hi there - currently there is not a proposed move from Apex Friendship High to Middle Creek High. I have brought this to student assignment's attention and the address lookup is being updated.

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Heather Absher 19 days ago

We bought our house five years ago knowing it was in the Sycamore Creek school district. My son started kindergarten this year but now we are being zoned for Barton Pond. We will literally have to drive past Sycamore Creek to get to the Barton Pond school. That makes absolutely no sense and I’m not happy about this change. Explain to me how this is even possible? I live off Laurdane Road.

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Corallie Tornow admin 19 days ago

Hi Heather, Sycamore Creek has an enrollment cap and the opening of Barton Pond will help with providing some crowding relief to the school. While we strive to assign students to the most proximate school to their address, it is not always possible.

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 1:57pm EDT

Heather, I created a facebook group for families to connect and organize based on what WE as the community of families that are districted for the new school would like to see. The group is called "Barton Pond Elementary Families", come join us.

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Lauren Krueger 19 days ago

I ask that you please reconsider this for the Lake Lynn side of Stonehenge. It is incredibly difficult and dangerous to turn left onto Ray Rd. to get to Barton Pond. There are very few children in this neighborhood who attend York, and not many who will be of school age in the next few years. I watched the presentation and saw that even without Barton Pond, York is at 84% (77% with the reassignment). Why then are these children being moved? There is clearly room for them. They have been moved around enough. You are asking these children (especially Ks and 1st grade) to attend the Barton Pond location for 4 months, and then to York for 6, and then back to Barton Pond where they know NO ONE? After they’ve only been able to meet a very few kids to keep them safe from COVID? This is too much, and it’s cruel. Also to echo the Jeffreys Grove parent above, York is a STEM school. Is Barton Pond a STEM school?

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Corallie Tornow admin 19 days ago

Hi Lauren, Staff is responsible for assigning enough students to a new school that will allow it to run the basic programming it needs to function. The area of York that was assigned to this school is more proximate to the new school’s location. Staff tries to assign groups of neighborhoods together to attend the new school so that students will have a “cohort” of familiar faces when they attend the new school. We do not know if Barton Pond will be a STEM school.

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Lauren Krueger 19 days ago

There are only 2 kindergartners from our neighborhood at York (one being my child). The friends my child has made in her class so far are not being moved. Is this the cohort that is supposed to be a comfort to my child when she is asked to start over AGAIN?

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Lauren Krueger 19 days ago

Also, BP is no more than 5 minutes closer to our neighborhood, but again requires an extremely risky left turn. A 5 minute difference is not a proximity issue.

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Melinda Sanes at October 12, 2021 at 6:56am EDT

Lauren, I echo your concerns!! We live in a neighborhood off of Ray Road and are not happy about being reassigned for BP. We have a child currently in second grade and one about to start Kindergarten next year. Our child in second grade has already had enough changes (as you stated) and all her friends will remain at York. I also want to mention that the metrics being used seem to be based on the old school capacity for York. I believe the new school has an enrollment capacity of 650 and the numbers show a capacity of 508. I'm not sure why anyone from York is being reassigned.

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Lauren Krueger at October 12, 2021 at 8:24am EDT

I totally agree with you about enrollment. From the presentation, without Barton Pond York would have 84% enrollment; with Barton Pond it would be 77%. Also from the presentation, one of the goals of the redistricting is to prevent schools with low enrollment. Also from the presentation, WCPSS does not expect much residential growth in the York base. This does not add up. If it is acceptable for York to have low enrollment, why can’t it be switched so that BP does instead? Wouldn’t this also free up space for the Sycamore Creek neighborhood that is split? I think this choice is particularly damaging for York students who will have to return to the BP campus without their friends or teachers, and it seems very avoidable.

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Melinda Sanes at October 12, 2021 at 8:37am EDT

Those numbers are even lower when you consider the capacity based on the new building for York. Lauren, if you haven't done so already, reach out to Chris Heagarty. He is the District 7 Board Member. I have been sharing all my concerns with him. He will definitely listen and help get our concerns out there.

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Melinda Sanes at October 12, 2021 at 8:53am EDT

Those numbers are even lower when you consider the capacity based on the new building for York. Lauren, if you haven't done so already, reach out to Chris Heagarty. He is the District 7 Board Member. I have been sharing all my concerns with him. He will definitely listen and help get our concerns out there.

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Lauren Krueger at October 12, 2021 at 8:55am EDT

Yes! How did I forget about Chris?? Thank you for the reminder!

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Melinda Sanes at October 12, 2021 at 9:08am EDT

Chris is great. Definitely reach out!

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Sandra Breitschwerdt 19 days ago

We are impacted by the re-assignment and I️ am very concerned that Bartons Pond is a traditional calendar with NO YEAR AROUND OPTION! We are current zoned for Sycamore Creek (YR) and my child has been attending that school for two years, then he will be re-zoned to a traditional calendar, and then when he attends middle school at Pine Hallow, he will go back to year-around? That makes NO sense. A neighborhood nearby (less than a mile away) is zoned for Bartons Pond Elementary and then a traditional calendar middle school. Either change Pine Hallow Middle to Traditional (heard they had to drop a track because of enrollment anyway) or keep us zoned for Sycamore Creek so our kids have a consistent schedule. For my son, he will be going from two years of year-around, to four years of traditional (to finish elementary), three years of year around (middle school), and four years of traditional (high school). That can seriously impact a child's learning. Why would someone do this? We are located off Sunnystone Way in Bartons Creek Bluffs.

PS. Our neighborhood was impacted by the prior re-zoning 6 or 7 years ago, why should our neighborhood get kicked around to different schools when changes are made while other neighboring neighborhoods have never had to deal with being re-zoned.

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Blair Roberts 19 days ago

My feelings exactly!

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Danica Hershey 19 days ago

I agree with the above, we live in Bartons Creek Bluff. We should not have to go through the re-zoning again. This makes no sense.

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Kelsey Pasley 19 days ago

We moved to Barton's Creek Bluffs hoping that we'd have a short commute to a year round school in our neighborhood where our kids could go to school with friends from the neighborhood. Not sure if commenting here makes a difference, but I am certainly hoping that the entirety of neighborhood and Amoretto Way is kept in the Sycamore Creek school district.

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Renee Gonzales 14 days ago

Very disappointed to hear about the rezoning for Barton's Creek Bluff. Although I live in an unaffected neighborhood, I know many that live in this community that are. Many people move back and forth between Barton's Creek and Harrington Grove, giving opportunities for staying in the same community with the same school but moving to a home that suits the family's needs better. Many families who moved to provide a better home for their family are now being penalized years later with this unexpected turn. These 2 communities are entwined very closely. The majority of my daughters kindergarten class is either Harrington Grove or Barton's Creek Bluff. This is a significant population of affected children and families. Please reconsider this neighborhood.

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Corallie Tornow admin 19 days ago

Hi Sandra, Sycamore creek has an enrollment cap and the opening of Barton Pond will help with providing some crowding relief to the school. While we strive to assign students to the most proximate school to their address, it is not always possible. While the district is not offering a year-round application school, that just means that we are not providing district transportation to a year-round school for your address. You may submit a transfer request to any school from Feb. 25 until March 11.

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Sandra Breitschwerdt 19 days ago

Why was Bartons Pond not a year-around school? As someone else mentioned, make it year around, so it's more attractive to parents to want to be in that school zone, and only open two tracks to start out with. A lot of parents wanted SCES because its year-around, and not to mention, if a traditional rolls into a year-around middle school, it should also be a year-around school. Your response didn't really address a lot of parents concerns about this now constant switching between YR and Trad.

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Lyndsie Holland at October 21, 2021 at 2:30pm EDT

Corallie, you haven’t addressed the question. You just keep copying and pasting the same response that doesn’t address the issue of YR calendar option. We all know SC is capped and crowded. We all know some students needed to be booted. But we also all know that the reason SC is so desired is because it’s the only YR option in this immediate area. You are taking families who intentionally purchased in YR zones and moving their kids to traditional for elementary, then back to YR for middle school, then back to traditional for HS. For families with more than one child this is a huge problem. We all know that we can apply for a YR option. We also know we will not get in. WHY was this school chosen to be traditional if the desire in this area is so great for YR?? Is the traditional calendar set in stone? Is there any talks of it potentially being YE if there is a large enough parent interest?

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 1:58pm EDT

Sandra, I created a facebook group for families to connect and organize based on what WE as the community of families that are districted for the new school would like to see. The group is called "Barton Pond Elementary Families", come join us.

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Audra Simons 19 days ago

YR schools should never be utilized to populate a new Traditional calendar school. Especially when the reasoning is to “populate the new school”. If there weren’t enough kids to populate a new school, why did the county build the new school?

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Sandra Breitschwerdt 19 days ago

Absolutely 100% agree!

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Audra Simons 19 days ago

I wish they just would've made Barton Pond YR. At least then my kids could stay YR until HS, which is what they have been all along.

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Corallie Tornow admin 19 days ago

Hi Audra, Sycamore Creek has an enrollment cap and the opening of Barton Pond will help with providing some crowding relief to the school. While staff prefers not to change a family’s calendar during a reassignment, it is not always possible to accommodate.

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Heazel Trimer at October 17, 2021 at 11:17am EDT

I can understand BUT make the new school YR. YR is the main issue. Not giving families a YR option is not acceptable.

YR is what works for families on so many levels. Forcing us to go back to traditional with lasting negative impact without any consideration is beyond ridiculous.

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 1:58pm EDT

Audra, I created a facebook group for families to connect and organize based on what WE as the community of families that are districted for the new school would like to see. The group is called "Barton Pond Elementary Families", come join us.

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Sandra Breitschwerdt 19 days ago

Can someone on the Board explain how one street that is in our neighborhood is still zoned for Sycamore Creek and not impacted by the zoning at all? Martin Farm Rd, which is part of Bartons Creek Bluffs was kept with zoning for Sycamore Creek but is in the same neighborhood we are?I️ thought neighborhoods should be kept together?

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Corallie Tornow admin 19 days ago

Hi Sandra, Staff will review this feedback as they look to develop draft 2.

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Katrina Vernon 19 days ago

My children currently attend Sycamore Creek and have been thriving with the year round schedule. With this new plan, they would be rezoned as 5th and 3rd graders to Lynn Elementary, and then stay with our currently zoned school for middle school. This means that next year my kids would be reverted back to traditional, which was not effective for them, and we have no application school for a year round option. The year after that, my older child would enter a year round middle school while my younger would still be traditional. This is not a feasible option for our family.

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 1:59pm EDT

Katrina, I created a facebook group for families to connect and organize based on what WE as the community of families that are districted for the new school would like to see. The group is called "Barton Pond Elementary Families", come join us.

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Katrina Vernon at October 13, 2021 at 8:17am EDT

We are rezoned to Lynn, not Barton Pond. Thanks though!

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Blair Roberts 19 days ago

We are currently at SCES because we wanted a year round calendar for our children. Based on the new reassignment we are now being switched to a traditional calendar school. Will we still have a year round option? When will it be posted? Will we even have a chance to apply? If we apply is there even a chance that we will get our year round option?

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Corallie Tornow admin 17 days ago

Hi Blair, Staff has not proposed a year-round calendar application school that provides district transportation. If you would like to apply to attend a year-round school for the 2022-23 school year, then you can apply during the Request for Transfer Period (Feb. 25- Mar. 11). If your request is approved, your student would not receive district transportation.

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Heazel Trimer at October 17, 2021 at 11:21am EDT

Why would we need to continue to reapply for a transfer when we are already in the school we have been. Why create administrative - paper work that will clog the system?

You do realize most if not the majority will be submitting to keep the YR option?

Again make the new Barton Grove YR and just maybe you have less of a issue.

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Kate Mercer 19 days ago

I’m disappointed to see that Barton’s Pond is going to be traditional calendar. I was also surprised to hear that the reason we wouldn’t be given a year-round option is because you need enough students to fill the new school. Why don’t you make BPES year-round, even if it only ends up having enough students for 1 or 2 tracks? It would make the school much more appealing and therefore draw more people to the school (similar to magnets). If BPES stays traditional, Pine Hollow MS may see a significant drop in enrollment since it is year-round. It’s hard on families to have different calendars.

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 1:59pm EDT

Kate, I created a facebook group for families to connect and organize based on what WE as the community of families that are districted for the new school would like to see. The group is called "Barton Pond Elementary Families", come join us.

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Stephanie Hughes 19 days ago

I am frustrated to see that those being districted to BPES will not be given a Year Round option, especially considering that a decent number of us are being pulled out of a YR school. I understand the need to fill a new school, but it seems unfair to our kids to be forced to pull them out of a YR school and switch them to a Trad school, and then further they will switch back to YR for middle school then back to Trad for high school. Nearly every elementary student in the entire county has an option on which calendar they prefer, except now for those of us districted to this school. We should have a Year Round option, too!

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 1:59pm EDT

Stephanie, I created a facebook group for families to connect and organize based on what WE as the community of families that are districted for the new school would like to see. The group is called "Barton Pond Elementary Families", come join us.

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Deron Brodbeck 19 days ago

We also moved to Barton's Creek Bluffs to stay in Sycamore Creek. We also have a middle schooler who just started 6th grade at Pine Hollow which is year round so we're supposed to have one child year round and two others traditional... this can't be right.

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 1:59pm EDT

Deron, I created a facebook group for families to connect and organize based on what WE as the community of families that are districted for the new school would like to see. The group is called "Barton Pond Elementary Families", come join us.

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Heazel Trimer at October 17, 2021 at 11:24am EDT

I will try to find this group. As I am in the same situation as Deron here. The system is going to force us all to go through the same process to reapply to get into these schools. What a waste of time, resources and effort.

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Allison Mangin 19 days ago

We have a child in 6th grade at year-round Pine Hollow Middle and a child in 3rd grade at year-round Sycamore Creek Elementary. Our current base school is Lead Mine Elementary. Our proposed base school is Barton Pond Elementary.

1) How does the base school change affect our elementary school student since she is not currently at our base elementary school? Will she be automatically reassigned to Barton Pond?

2) The stability rules do not address having siblings in different calendar schools. Does having a student at a year-round middle school impact our ability to request that a sibling remain at a year-round elementary school?

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Corallie Tornow admin 17 days ago

Hi Allison, Student Assignment staff can help you with your individual situation. If you haven't been contacted by them, fill out this form https://www.wcpss.net/Page/33801

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 2:00pm EDT

Allison, I created a facebook group for families to connect and organize based on what WE as the community of families that are districted for the new school would like to see. The group is called "Barton Pond Elementary Families", come join us.

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Jennifer Finnegan 19 days ago

Hi we are currently enrolled at lead mine elementary. Next year my girls will be rising 2nd and 4th graders. I would love to know more information about having them grandfathered into lead mine. We have been there for years and I am active in the pta and participate any way I can with the school and we want to stay. I’ve read that if we had been transferred to another existing school we could stay and not have any issues as long as I provide transportation but since it’s a new school this is only an option for rising 5th graders and even if that was granted my youngest would have to move after the oldest graduated. Is this true? Do they make any exceptions? My kids are devastated and they have thrived at lead mine.

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Lauren Krueger 18 days ago

That’s true. I was told by another WCPSS staff member the only option is to appeal through the Board via a hardship transfer request. I can’t bear to tell my kindergartener until school is out basically.

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Corallie Tornow admin 17 days ago

Hi Jennifer, The Stability Rules for your situation are found on page 73 of the presentation. Someone from the Office of Student Assignment will reach out to you to discuss your options.

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Darrow Bertolina 18 days ago

It would be wonderful if Barton Pond was slated to be on a year round calendar instead of a traditional calendar! There are very few year round options in North Raleigh.

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 2:00pm EDT

Darrow, I created a facebook group for families to connect and organize based on what WE as the community of families that are districted for the new school would like to see. The group is called "Barton Pond Elementary Families", come join us.

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Graham Boyd 18 days ago

I think keeping Barton Pond as a traditional calendar (as a base school) is good. I would assume that with future drafts coming out there will be year round options which may alleviate a lot of these comments about YR vs Trad. My assumption again (may be wrong) would be that this would reduce the amount of students slated to go to SCES for instance and allow a larger amount of those students (or parents) wishing to apply for YR at SCES possible.

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Kate Mercer 18 days ago

They have stated that there will be no year round school option because they want students to stay at Barton Pond. The parents who are upset it isn’t a YR are the ones who got pushed out of Sycamore. It appears that they are only considering hardship transfers so it’s not true that there will now be many available open spots at Sycamore.

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Maggie Gordon 17 days ago

How will a child with an IEP (autism, difficulties with transitions and change) with relationships already built with the support staff at their current school be viewed? Is this a situation that the stability request could be granted?

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 13, 2021 at 12:07pm EDT

HI Maggie, our proposed stability rules are posted here: https://www.wcpss.net/Page/49916. If you have a particular hardship, you can submit a transfer request during the transfer period from Feb. 25 - March 11 and explain your situation.

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Maggie Gordon at October 13, 2021 at 12:17pm EDT

I don’t see anything on the stability rules that applies to children with special needs and an IEP.

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Marie Pasquale 15 days ago

Thank you for giving us the option to review the proposal and comment. We live in Wood Valley and think the proposal generally makes sense for us but would ask that it be amended to include a year round elementary option. We understand that Bartons Pond is intended to alleviate some of the crowding at SCES, but we would ask you consider a more gradual transition by changing the base of neighborhoods but leaving in place an elementary year round option to ease the transition for families. Under the current proposal, our family will have a child at a year round middle school (she'll be in her last year) and another at a traditional elementary. We would really appreciate a stability plan that would give us a year or two to allow us to transition to a traditional school year schedule and enable our family to be on the same schedule.

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 2:00pm EDT

Marie, I created a facebook group for families to connect and organize based on what WE as the community of families that are districted for the new school would like to see. The group is called "Barton Pond Elementary Families", come join us.

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Melissa Barr 15 days ago

Barton Pond should be a year round achool as many parents here prefer that option, or at the very least a bus option should be available for either Pleasant Union or Sycamore Creek, as has always been the case. Also, when will we have more information about Barton Pond? Will it have a chorus, art, any other special programs? We need these answers, but most importantly we need a bus option YEAR ROUND school. This is unacceptable as many of us purchased homes so we had a year round option close by.

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 12, 2021 at 11:26am EDT

Hi Melissa, More information about Barton Pond will be available after the principal is announced in December.

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 2:01pm EDT

Melissa, I created a facebook group for families to connect and organize based on what WE as the community of families that are districted for the new school would like to see. The group is called "Barton Pond Elementary Families", come join us.

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Melanie Moreschi 14 days ago

As a parent of a Sycamore Creek student and a Pine Hollow student and a resident of Barton's Creek Bluffs, I would like to offer a few concerns regarding the new proposal: 1) The traditional calendar elementary school of Barton's Pond does not align with the base middle school of Pine Hollow. Not sure why anyone would want to switch to year round just for 6th - 8th grades. 2) The subdivisions of Barton's Creek Bluffs and Harrington Grove across the street are closely intertwined as a community should be with fellow Sycamore Creek students attending church, soccer, dance and other activities together. Several of my children's closest friends are within walking distance to Harrington Grove, and we enjoy the continuity of having a small community feel within this larger school district. 3) Many of the parents in the Barton's Creek Bluffs subdivision chose this area due to the year round education offered at Sycamore Creek Elementary. The year round calendar is beneficial to families with both parents working out of the home to allow spacing of the breaks to maximize vacation time with family and spread out the expense of track out/summer camps. I understand the need to fill in Barton's Pond Elementary with students but ask that you consider the impact on families in our community, particularly with the calendar change from year round to traditional for elementary school. Thank you for your time and consideration.

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 2:01pm EDT

Melanie, I created a facebook group for families to connect and organize based on what WE as the community of families that are districted for the new school would like to see. The group is called "Barton Pond Elementary Families", come join us.

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Read Gentry 14 days ago

What changes in the enrollment proposal are considered changeable for the final draft? Is it only getting specific streets or neighborhoods changed open for consideration, or would the school calendar be open for discussion as well? If the majority of the families in the districted area wanted it changed? Or is the calendar for the new school set in stone?

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 12, 2021 at 11:23am EDT

Hi Read - Staff will review all feedback and consider it when making changes for draft 2. The school calendar for Barton Pond was determined by the projected residential growth in the impacted area. Based on that information, staff determined that the extra capacity a multi-track year-round school provides was not needed at this time.

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 11:31am EDT

Thanks Corallie, I'd like to get more information on what other factors determined Barton Pond for traditional. Is it only because the capacity of the school wasn't necessary for YR? If most parents in the area still wanted year round it seems it would still be feasible to make it YR with less tracks. Similar to Pine Hollow and then feed into Pine Hollow which is dropping tracks due to low capacity.

Is it possible (and I am sure it is due to all the covid surveys that have gone out quickly) to survey the families districted to Barton's Pond and see what calendar they would prefer?

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Read Gentry at October 13, 2021 at 10:52am EDT

Does your office have data on applications for Sycamore Creek for a year round school by those in our area? Those applications were denied, but it might present how much demand there is for another year round school in our area. I've also heard from parents at traditional schools that are being affected by the change that were hoping for a year round calendar. Can you share with the public what data and assumptions were made about our area to decide on a traditionally calendar?

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 20, 2021 at 2:40pm EDT

Read - here is the transfer report from student assignment.

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 13, 2021 at 12:03pm EDT

Hey Read, I can get the public reports that are published each for transfer data from student assignment and send it to you. Student assignment looked at projected residential growth from municipalities to help determine if there is a need for additional school capacity in the area.

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Read Gentry at October 13, 2021 at 12:32pm EDT

Does that data show the amount of applications that were denied due to SCES being a capped school or account for some number that wouldn't waste time applying due to SECS being a capped school?

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Caitlyn Dant 14 days ago

Being in Barton’s Creek neighborhood and having a kindergarten next year we were excited that we were funneled into Sycamore Creek for the year round option. It works better for our family with working parents and breaking up childcare during trackouts instead of months at a time. We also have another child that it 2 years younger so having a child in traditional elementary and then a child in year round middle is not feasible for us and would make for lots of headaches with different schedules. I also would like to know what is still changeable for the final draft?

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 2:01pm EDT

Caitlyn, I created a facebook group for families to connect and organize based on what WE as the community of families that are districted for the new school would like to see. The group is called "Barton Pond Elementary Families", come join us.

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 13, 2021 at 12:00pm EDT

Hi Caitlyn, if the proposal holds as is through the final vote, you can submit a transfer request during the Transfer Request period from Feb. 25 - March 11 and share your particular hardship.

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April Sparks at October 11, 2021 at 8:19pm EDT

I would also prefer Barton Pond to be a Year round school. We Love having a year round schedule and the kids having breaks throughout the year instead of just one long break for summer. If it won’t be, I will have one child in 4th grade on a Traditional calendar (Barton Pond) and another child in 6th grade on a Year Round calendar (Pine Hollow Middle). We can not do that, I need both children on the same schedule. Will I be able to keep my younger child in Sycamore for his last 2 years to keep both kids in year round?

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 13, 2021 at 11:58am EDT

Hi April, families can submit a transfer request during the Transfer Request period from Feb. 25 - March 11 and share their particular hardship.

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Read Gentry at October 12, 2021 at 2:01pm EDT

April, I created a facebook group for families to connect and organize based on what WE as the community of families that are districted for the new school would like to see. The group is called "Barton Pond Elementary Families", come join us.

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Monte Moreschi at October 12, 2021 at 1:39pm EDT

I realize that the school board needs a starting point for assignments to the new Barton Pond Elementary School. I however disagree with staff recommendation for removing Barton’s Creek Bluff and associated neighborhoods from the Sycamore Creek Elementary School.

The most glaring issue is taking year around students to a traditional school that are then assigned a base year around middle school. I am sure the school board enjoys vacations as do our families. Depending on your track and number of children, the overlap between traditional and year around are limited even over the summer. Since, Pine Hollow is not even close to capacity made obvious by eliminating Track 2. This seems to be where Barton’s Creek Bluff students would continue to be assigned. Track 4 at Sycamore Creek Elementary School can’t accommodate all the families with multiple children to address this issue.

Another key issue that staff neglected was the contributions made by current and previous students and their parents to Barton’s Creek Bluff. The Croc Mile, School Fair, PTA Contributions and Turf Fund enjoyed thousands of dollars in support from the community. The turf fund has been on going for years. The wall tiles made with student’s self-image installed through the years. I am sure the staff proposal does not include compensating current families effected by the new assignment.

In understanding that Sycamore Creek Elementary School is overcrowded, I recommend the staff and school board consider switching new neighborhoods off of Leesville Road to Barton Pond Elementary School and Leesville Middle School. These new neighborhoods were last to be assigned to Sycamore Creek Elementary School creating the current overcrowding. This seems to be a fair and economical way to approach new assignments. The economical advantage is that these neighborhoods are much smaller, with limited number of required bus stops and would require less buses compared the Barton’s Creek Bluff Neighborhood. Another item is that not all streets in Barton’s Creek Bluff’s neighborhood are being reassigned to Barton Pond Elementary School dividing a neighborhood into different schools and different school calendars.

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Lauren Krueger at October 12, 2021 at 8:21pm EDT

Although I am not affected by the Sycamore Creek change, I did want to point out another concern I have for my neighborhood’s change related to this comment. It seems that many, many kids who are being moved to BP will be at the year round middle school, while closer to Ray Rd we will be going to Leesville. If the majority of current York kindergarteners are staying at York, and most of the future Barton Pond kids are not assigned to Leesville Middle, where is the consistency for current York students (at least from the southern part of the district) being moved to BP? At least Monte’s proposal would help in that situation.

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 18, 2021 at 9:27am EDT

Lauren, the number of affected families from Sycamore Creek to Barton Pond is approximately 20%. These families will also be assigned to Pine Hollow for middle school. The remaining families have a traditional calendar school as a middle school base.

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Melinda Sanes at October 13, 2021 at 6:14am EDT

My family is being reassigned from York, which has a whole set of issues/concerns, none of which include the calendar option. We would actually prefer to stay on traditional calendar, however, the traditional/ year-round calendar discussion brings up some interesting thoughts that could possibly be better for those of us from other schools that don’t want to be reassigned. Has anyone looked at the metrics to see if Barton’s Pond can be a year-round school that absorbs half of Sycamore Creek, essentially split Sycamore Creek into two schools (year-round) with less tracks? That would (1) alleviate the overcrowding at Sycamore Creek and let people stay on a year- round track, (2) Allow a lot of us at other schools to remain at our schools and not be reassigned, (3) not create all these scheduling challenges that are going to happen with families split on different calendars, (4) track both schools to Pine Hollow, which doesn’t seem to be full, and (5) allow space for people who want to apply to a year-round school actually get in. I also want to point out that with the proposed draft, the kids going to Barton’s Pond are assigned to (4) different Middle Schools: Pine Hollow, Leesville, Millbrook, and Carroll. It doesn’t seem like any other schools in the area split so many ways when they get to middle school.

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Kristin Lundeen at October 14, 2021 at 11:12am EDT

This sounds like a good way to address multiple concerns as well stated by Melinda. I would really like to see an evaluation of the feasibility of this proposal. If you look at the activity across the threads related to this proposal, it would seem the Barton's Pond assignment/calendar proposal seems to be generating the most discussion and controversy (as of today, at least).

Also, I have heard some say that SCES is possibly not actually overcrowded (I am not privy to the numbers but it seems to track given we were told in January of this year by the SCES data manager there were 9 Kindergarten classes and this school year there are 7 I believe). So, the impetus for moving Barton's Creek Bluffs away from SCES would only be to fill the new school. Doing this as currently proposed removes the calendar choice for this neighborhood (and others) and as they are assigned to a year round middle school does not seem equitable. I am aware that we become a minority in BPES that is mostly drawing from traditional calendar schools but, why create this burden on families if it is not absolutely necessary? This is going to create tremendous burden on many families for many years (with 2 kids, we are looking at 4 years of mismatched calendars) and families will be torn between trying to get a hardship request approved to remain in a YR school while their children are split from their neighborhood peers. Not to mention this neighborhood (or part of it) has been reassigned in the recent past. Many things are stacking up as unfair to this particular neighborhood in this proposal.

Above seems like a way to keep both families who want traditional and who want year round happy. How many applications to SCES on the basis of calendar are turned down each year due to the cap? How many desire year round but do not even submit because they know they will not be granted a spot? Where is the data?

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Melinda Sanes at October 14, 2021 at 12:01pm EDT

To add a bit more to this train of thought . . . I would love to see the numbers that they used to base these decisions on. We are not at Sycamore Creek. We are at York and it doesn’t make sense why they are pulling any students from our school. Our capacity is the lowest of all the schools and that is based on old numbers with the old building. Our new building holds even more, pushing our capacity even lower. That is why I think it is worth looking at the year-round option to alleviate Sycamore Creek and allow others to apply. Then the rest of us who don’t want to be reassigned can stay. I would like to see someone address this.

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 18, 2021 at 9:28am EDT

Kristin - staff is working to finalize the reports for the 2021-22 application period and we'll share those as soon as we have those finalized.

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 22, 2021 at 9:08am EDT

Kristin - here is the 2021-22 transfer data

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Shawn McKee at October 13, 2021 at 8:14am EDT

York is our base but we really wanted a non-traditional calendar and have been frustrated that we do not have a viable YR or Mod option near York. This part of Wake County has an abundance of Traditional calendar schools but very limited YR with high demand for those seats. Why isn't Barton Pond being opened as a YR school given that there is a high desire for additional YR seats in this part of the county?

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 13, 2021 at 11:55am EDT

Hi Shawn, staff reviewed the projected residential developments in this impacted area and based on that information, proposed Barton Pond to be opened on a traditional calendar.

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Shawn McKee at October 13, 2021 at 12:10pm EDT

I'm afraid that I do not understand your answer. The new developments didn't want a YR school? My point was that this part of Wake County has so many Trad schools and so few YR schools that parents assigned to a Trad really don't have a YR option. But many of us want YR.

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 18, 2021 at 9:31am EDT

Shawn, staff is in discussion with the Board regarding year-round schools however, our determination to utilize year-round schools has been based on the projected growth in the area versus projected seats in the area.

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Melinda Sanes at October 13, 2021 at 8:24pm EDT

Shawn, York is also our base for this year and then we are being reassigned. We want to stay at York and want a traditional calendar. However, I would like to know if there are there metrics or has anyone looked at the metrics if Sycamore Creek is split into two schools (Barton’s Pond and Sycamore Creek) that are year-round with less tracks, and then including those that want to be in year-round schools but aren’t able to get in due to limited options in overcrowded schools? I would be curious to see if the two schools could be supported by just this and not disrupt the people who either don’t want to be reassigned or don’t want to be reassigned from year-round to traditional.

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Jon Hess at October 13, 2021 at 9:46am EDT

Our child is currently a student at Sycamore Creek. I ask that you strongly reconsider moving him and his fellow neighbors from Bartons Enclave. This neighborhood is so incredibly close to Sycamore Creek Elementary. Our family, along with many others in this neighborhood, have contributed countless hours or volunteer work and fundraising. Our neighborhood and families have formed a community around this school and it would be devastating to watch that be torn apart. It doesn’t seem to make sense to target my child and our neighborhood given our proximity to Sycamore Creek and everything that we have put into that school. We also have an older sibling in a year round calendar. The undue burden this redistricting will create is maddening. Again, please reconsider moving our son and our neighborhood from Sycamore Creek to Bartons Pond.

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Steve Lim at October 14, 2021 at 9:15am EDT

I currently have a student at Sycamore Creek. While I am not thrilled about the Barton Pond reassignment, I would be very receptive if Barton Pond was a YR school. For my family, the main concern is a reassignment from a YR to Traditional (with no YR option).

@Mellinda Sanes, @Corallie Tornow Where/who can I inquire about requesting Barton Pond to be changed to a YR school? Based on several posts on this forum, many families would prefer this.

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Melinda Sanes at October 14, 2021 at 12:04pm EDT

Steve, unfortunately I have no control over this and I don't know who can answer this. I am just a parent at York who is equally frustrated, but for different reasons. I am trying to voice ideas that could help my family stay at York and I thought this would be a good one to throw out there given all the frustration I was seeing from others. If changing the school to a year round lets my family stay at York, I am all for it!

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Steve Lim at October 14, 2021 at 12:32pm EDT

Melinda, I apologize for the tag. I mistakenly thought you were an admin on the forum.

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 18, 2021 at 9:32am EDT

Steve, see our answer above to Shawn McKee.

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Joe Pasquale at October 15, 2021 at 12:58pm EDT

I appreciate the incredible amount of effort it takes to balance a school district as large as Wake County. No plan will ever be perfect but perhaps made better with tweaks based on the feedback in this forum.

Our son is at SCES currently as a 3rd grader while his sister is at PHMS. Selfishly moving my son to Barton Pond will force my kids into different schedules making for a logistical nightmare. My ask is to keep a year round option for those being reassigned to Barton Pond for even one year to allow families time to sort out how it impacts them and what their next steps should be.

Thank you!

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Faith Costello at October 15, 2021 at 1:29pm EDT

Please reconsider the redistricting of Bartons Enclave Lane in the Bartons Creek Bluffs areas. First, on a personal note, my child has attended Sycamore Creek since last year. We live on Bartons Enclave Lane and bought a home in this area for the schools. After a great deal of uncertainty while being on the waiting list, and fighting to not have my child switch school even more times, we received the opportunity to join the Sycamore Creek community, where my son has been thriving! After finally getting settled in our community (home and school), to pull him from his current school environment (when he has only two more years to go) would truly create a educational disruption/negative impact on his education. On another important note, Pine Hollow Middle school (attended by my daughter) is Year Round. The redistricting in this area creates an incredibly stressful schedule for parents with children that are not at an age to be completely independent. I realize later on, in high school, students are on traditional calendars. Please realize that at an older age, children are more independent. With the current draft, you are making it EXTREMELY stressful on families who have young children in both elementary and middle schools, in this area. To have young children on two totally different school calendars without any other options, is absurd!

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Kristen Deak at October 15, 2021 at 1:41pm EDT

I would like to echo what many have already said, and while I appreciate that a new school must be filled and that there will be unhappy families no matter what is decided, it feels like some of the decisions are being made to that end, without regards to what makes sense for the families and students involved.

To this point, families of the Barton's Creek Bluffs neighborhood are being asked to switch current Sycamore Creek (SCES) students from YR to traditional for a few years, then back to YR for middle, then back to traditional. Additionally, many of families these often with older kids already in YR middle school at Pine Hollow (PHMS). There is no YR option being offered, which is due the need to "fill the new school". As others have pointed out, this neighborhood has close ties with the Harrington Grove area, many residents were recently reassigned to SCES in 2015, and have had children attend SCES for many years while investing much time, money, and energy into projects their kids won't be around to enjoy. While many in the Barton's Creek Bluffs subdivision chose this area due to the year round education offered at SCES, I understand that Wake county is growing and this was never a guarantee. However, year round calendar is beneficial to families with both parents working to space out the burden/cost of out of school childcare. Additionally, the YR calendar has a positive impact on learning for many students, but I can't imagine that asking students to switch between calendars every 3 years (such as would be the case for a 3rd grader moving from SCES to BPES on the new assignment) would not hurt this child's learning pattern.

I believe that this proposed assignment will hurt PHMS enrollment, as most families with kids moving to BPES will choose to switch to traditional to align calendars (including our family). There is already decreasing enrollment at PHMS.

I ask that you consider 1. keeping Barton's Creek Bluffs at SCES, or 2. consider a more gradual transition or "stability" plan which specifically allows students, regardless of grade level", to remain at their current school if being reassigned to a different calendar 3. a YR option as well as a traditional option for all address 4. Or, I ask that you consider making Barton Pond a single track YR school as there are very limited YR options for families

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Read Gentry at October 17, 2021 at 1:02pm EDT

I agree 100 percent with everything Kristie has said! I can't see how it makes more sense to make some families change calendars twice by keeping Barton Pond Traditional verses making all families change calendars once by making it YR. I would love even a Single Track YR with track 4, which would make financial sense for WCPSS and allow YR families and easier transition now and on the way to middle school, and keep traditional families as close to traditional as possible.

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Tim Riley at October 17, 2021 at 10:44am EDT

I see a lot of suggestions from the PR person above to apply for hardship transfers. Just so everyone's expectations are set correctly, the Board very rarely, if ever, approves hardship transfers. Our neighborhood was told by the board to submit for hardship transfers after our neighborhood was wrongly reassigned a couple years ago, and every single one was denied. It's not a simple process either, so it was a real waste of valuable time for all families. Since then we've had families with very legitimate hardships apply, and all have continued to be denied.

Just want to make sure sure people don't get their hopes up. If you care to read about what our particular neighborhood went through, you can do so at: www.wakereassignment.com

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Lauren Krueger at October 18, 2021 at 9:37am EDT

I was going to bring this up as well. Not only is it a complete roll of the dice to get a transfer request approved, it will be even more difficult when requesting out of being assigned to a brand new school.

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Dena Bone at October 17, 2021 at 7:47pm EDT

Our son currently attends Leesville Elementary and is in the third grade and our daughter attends Leesville Middle and is in the sixth grade. I highly suggest some sort of rule that grandfathers in kids who do not wish to change schools for their fourth and fifth grade years, especially those who have siblings attending Leesville Middle. We moved here a year ago, and our son is thriving in his current environment and having to change schools will disrupt his academic and social growth. This will also create a huge issue for us regarding transportation to and from school. Currently we are able to drive both children to and from school, which is our preferred method. Having our son change schools will most likely force us into having to put one of our children on the bus, which we would like to avoid. Has there been any consideration into what I am suggesting? Thanks.

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 18, 2021 at 9:35am EDT

Dena - if you don't qualify for the stability transfer, you may submit a hardship transfer request Feb. 25 - March 11.

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Dena Bone at October 18, 2021 at 10:41am EDT

Thank you Corallie. Principal Cohen had mentioned that previous rezoning efforts grandfathered 4th and 5th graders under stability transfers. Will a consideration be made in the next proposal to also include 4th graders under the stability plan? Any reason why this was revised for this rezoning effort?

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Lisa Pascoe at October 18, 2021 at 11:41am EDT

We are part of Sanctuary Park, which is attached to the cluster of Breeland, Sanctuary/Sanctuary Park, Bridgewater, and the new Homestead at Leesville Reserve neighborhoods. I’ll call it “Breeland+”. We are all assigned to Barton Pond in Draft 1. Being that my youngest child will be able to stay at Leesville next year for 5th grade, I don’t have much to say on the elementary reassignment other than Leesville Elementary is awesome, and I am sure Barton’s Pond will be also. I haven’t seen any comments from our neighborhoods—maybe because the reassignment was somewhat expected, potentially unavoidable, and not necessarily negative. I feel for those who will experience changes that they are unhappy with.

A switch from a traditional calendar for Barton Pond to year round seems unlikely, but since there is a lot of chatter around this topic, it’s important to speak up on all aspects lest we get thrown a curve ball in Draft 2. I’ll give my vote of affirmation for keeping the current and proposed Breeland+ neighborhoods’ base assignments of Leesville Middle School and Leesville High School after Barton Pond, even if the Barton Pond calendar were to change. Those of us with middle school age and older children generally have little desire to start year round calendars at this point. Our neighborhood kids are already entrenched in the Leesville life, and it makes sense stability-wise to keep it that way. And the optimized bus routes, which traditionally pick up both the Breeland+ and Springdale neighborhoods, indicate that we should match Springdale’s middle and high school assignments for operational efficiency.

So thumbs up from me on Draft 1, for us.

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Allison Lim at October 18, 2021 at 4:53pm EDT

I have the same concern expressed by many other parents regarding the change from a year round to traditional calendar schedule for elementary school while also being assigned to a year round middle school (Pine Hollow). The change in schedule will not be feasible when one child is in middle school and another in elementary school with different schedules. In addition, our current school, Sycamore Creek, is closer to our home. I understand there may be an option to apply for a transfer to a year round school but that is not a guarantee and transportation is not included. This is a major limitation for our family as we rely on bus transportation. Families transferring from Sycamore Creek need a year round option.

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Lauren Krueger at October 18, 2021 at 4:57pm EDT

Is it possible to survey the families affected by the reassignment plan to see if there is opportunity to grandfather more than rising 5th, and make that vote binding? Like, what if only a handful of students want to remain at York? What if every family from SC would be thrilled with BP IF it was YR? It seems like it would be better to have a school populated by families happy to be there.

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Drew Gander at October 18, 2021 at 6:16pm EDT

I live on Dunbarton Way in the Hawthorne neighborhood. Sycamore Creek is about 2 miles from my house. That's not our elementary school. The new Bartons Pond is also about two miles from our house. That is also not our elementary school. The school that is maybe six miles from our house, and the third closest elementary school is ours, Baileywick. How does that make sense? This doesn't even address how our high school is also moving much further away. Secondly, how has our neighborhood been split down the middle so half go to Bartons Pond and the other half to Baileywick?

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 25, 2021 at 2:17pm EDT

Drew - Staff will look into the potential split in the neighborhood and propose any changes in Draft 2, if necessary.

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Zachary Haunsperger at October 18, 2021 at 9:14pm EDT

Please consider rezoning the 20 houses on Dunbarton Way for Barton’s Pond. Currently, our street is zoned for Baileywick Elementary, however, the rest of the Hawthorne neighborhood is slated for Barton’s Pond. Our little section of Hawthorne is on the other side of Victory Church Road, which seems to be a line/border for zoning. We would like to be aligned with our neighborhood so our children can go to the same school as their neighbors/friends.

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Lauren Krueger at October 19, 2021 at 2:56pm EDT

I would be happy to donate our neighborhood’s spots to yours! (If only it were that easy)

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Kelly Steele at October 18, 2021 at 9:24pm EDT

I would like to see a modification to the stability rules, especially for schools like Leesville that are not currently overcrowded but affected by this new assignment. Can rising 4th graders be considered in this plan? We live in Breeland Park and have been ALL IN for Leesville since Kindergarten. I know my daughter would like to continue to be with her class at Leesville the next 2 years. For her (and us), this is about community and stability. Given the challenges that our students have faced the last two years with the pandemic, I can’t see why forcing upper elementary students to another school, only to return to Leesville Middle is best for them. I am very pleased we are still zoned Leesville for middle/high but disappointed that we have to leave for her 4th/5th grade year under this current plan especially when Leesville has room. Thank you.

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Grayson Chase at October 19, 2021 at 6:47pm EDT

Please ensure that the Stillwater Landing subdivision (Celbridge Place) has neighborhood busing service to Barton Pond ES.

I know some schools in the district do not provide busing service to neighborhoods in close proximity due to being in a "walk zone"; however, walking to Barton Pond is not safe for children in our neighborhood due to the traffic on Baileywick Road and the lack of crosswalks and sidewalks. Thank you!

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Stephanie Hughes at October 20, 2021 at 10:31am EDT

Corallie Tornow - Can you please clarify a comment made above. You said "the number of affected families from Sycamore Creek to Barton Pond is approximately 20%." Does that mean that 20% of SCES families are moving to BPES? Or that 20% of BPES families will be coming from SCES?

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 25, 2021 at 10:54am EDT

Stephanie -- Approximately 20% of the students assigned to Barton Pond Elementary will be coming from SCES.

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Justin Puleo at October 20, 2021 at 12:29pm EDT

Just wanted to say we are excited about our draft assignment to Barton Pond as we live adjacently and are also in support of the traditional calendar format. Thank you WCPSS for all of the hard work you do in hearing everyone out and making tough decisions. Best regards.

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Danette Chadwick at October 20, 2021 at 12:40pm EDT

Wake County Board, thank you for giving us the opportunity to provide feedback on the proposal of filling Barton's Pond Elementary. I ask you please read and listen below to the concerns I have as a parent with students in Barton's Creek Bluffs, who currently go to Sycamore Creek.

Sycamore Creek is a wonderful year round school that our son has thrived in. We love the year round option, there is proven data that kids retain more when they only have a 3 week break at a time. Year round schedules are also beneficial to families around vacation planning, planning for camps, etc. Our other son is scheduled to start Sycamore Creek soon and we excited to continue on the year round schedule.

Now with the proposed reassignment to Barton's Pond Elementary, a traditional calendar school, our family will have two students, one in elementary at Barton's Pond, and one at Pine Hollow Middle on a year round calendar. This will make it very difficult to coordinate getting too and from school, school actives, extracurricular actives, family vacations, and more! Like many families, we are asking to stay at Sycamore Creek, as it feeds into Pine Hollow Middle school and both schools are on a year round calendar.

Wake County is one of the largest school systems in NC, other counties look to you to make equitable decisions around the education of our children. Moving elementary aged children from a year round school to a traditional school, without even approving a year round alternative, is not equitable. Ripping children from a school system with teachers, staff and friends they love is not equitable. Changing young children from year round to traditional, again where the benefits of year round school have been proven, is not equitable.

Several questions come to mind with this proposal: 1) Will Barton's Pond offer a year round schedule? 2) Will Barton's Pond offer after school care thru Raleigh Parks and Rec, as Sycamore Creek does now? 3) What will the school hours be at Barton's Pond? Will they align with Pine Hollow Middle? 4) Sycamore Creek is not at capped capacity and we do not have trailers, as indicated by Wake County earlier...removing up to 20% of the students, which could be up to 200, will make Sycamore Creek way under capacity. Well they lose a year round track, will teachers lose jobs?

I ask you please reconsider and leave Barton's Creek Bluffs base school as Sycamore Creek Elementary. If is an amazing year round school that has supported and helped so many children in Barton's Creek Bluffs thrive and succeed.

I look forward to your answers and if you would like to assist my family with the day to day management of two calendar school schedules, I welcome it. It will not be easy, equitable or feasible in any way, shape or form.

Thank you for your time.

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Phyllis Gaukel at October 20, 2021 at 6:13pm EDT

In my message I am giving a main concern, but also a POSSIBLE/PRACTICAL SOLUTION that involves using Brier Creek Elementary School. My father always said come to the table with a solution.

I am a working mother of 5 children ages 12yrs to 10 months that attend Pine Hollow and Sycamore Creek and live in Barton's Creek Bluffs.

CONCERN: Being that both Sycamore Creek and Pine Hollow are both year around it allows families to stay as a unit regarding work and school schedules, childcare, camps, etc. Changing to Barton's Pond that is traditional and still having Pine Hollow as the base middle school, which is year around, puts stress, both finically and emotionally, on families and even more on single parents when young children (those that cannot be left alone which would be elementary and middle school) are on different schedules. Parents may be forced to find a new job, quit their current postion due to juggling such schedules, as well pay more for camps or childcare, and even put in the position of leaving a child/ren at home without proper supervision, etc.
POSSIBLE & PRACTICAL SOLUTION: Can those being removed from Sycamore Creek have the option to go to Brier Creek and have bussing? From my experience with my own kids, Brier Creek is the "over flow" school when Sycamore Creek does not have space. My children were assigned to go there. This was fine with me since my middle school and elementary school were still on the same schedule and Brier Creek is not far from our neighborhood and thus parents can still be involved. We were moved to Sycamore Creek later, but for me that was a practical solution as being the over flow school. I would like to ask this to be an option (with bussing provided) to assist parents, especially single parents so their young children can remain on the same schedule for both elementary and middle school. Such ages cannot be home alone and thus removing children from Sycamore Creek to attend Barton's Pond would be a hardship that can be avoided if Brier Creek can be an option. God bless, Phyllis Gaukel

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 25, 2021 at 2:21pm EDT

Phyllis - The school calendar for Barton Pond was determined by the projected residential growth in the impacted area. Based on that information, staff determined that the extra capacity a multi-track year-round school provides was not needed at this time. Staff has not proposed a year-round calendar application school that provides district transportation. If you would like to apply to attend a year-round school for the 2022-23 school year, then you can apply during the Request for Transfer Period (Feb. 25- Mar. 11). If your request is approved, your student would not receive district transportation.

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Blair Roberts at October 21, 2021 at 12:41pm EDT

I am currently a parent of a 2nd grader and kindergartener at Sycamore Creek who thrive on a year round calendar. We currently live in Bartons Creek Bluffs like many of the others who are being asked to switch from a year round calendar school to a traditional calendar. We have consciously stayed in this school district to maintain that year round calendar option. My second grader has not had a "normal" school year since she started kindergarten. She was switched to virtual her kindergarten year due to the pandemic and started her first grade year virtually. As soon as she could be back in the classroom learning she thrived! This year they are living with mask rules, forced pods and the fear of constant quarantine. And now they are being redistricted - what is this doing to our children?

Would it ever be considered to grandfather currently enrolled students (no matter their grade) into their current school just to provide that stability?

Thank you for all of your considerations and changes to the proposed plan.

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Corallie Tornow admin at October 25, 2021 at 11:00am EDT

Hi Blair - When opening a new school, we don't offer the ability for all grades to submit a stability transfer to stay at their current school. It is vital for the school to have enough enrollment so the school can run the basic programming it needs to function properly.

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Kevin Scott at October 25, 2021 at 8:43am EDT

Can someone from Wake County explain why I'm being rezoned to a traditional school, Bartons Pond, without an option for a year-round when my two children are currently in year-round? So I'd have to move an elementary student back to traditional while I have a middle schooler in year-round. This is now the third time I've been rezoned in the 14 years I've lived here!

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Steve Lim at October 25, 2021 at 2:05pm EDT

I share the same concern. Unfortunately, we are not going to find a simple answer on here.

We must voice our concern during the "Virtual Information Sessions for first draft of the 2022-23 WCPSS Reassignment Enrollment Proposal" on October 28th.

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Melinda Sanes at October 25, 2021 at 10:49am EDT

Of the elementary schools noted on the list as being impacted with the opening of Barton’s Pond, York has the lowest capacity and is about to open their new, larger building in December. In the pocket of students being reassigned along Ray Road it seems that they are being pulled from York based on proximity to be able to fill Barton’s Pond, but are not needed to leave York due to any capacity concerns. Since York is not at capacity or even near capacity could these assignments be looked at in a slightly different way that would minimize the area and number of students that are being reassigned? Could this York reassignment area be based off the existing boundaries of Ray Road. Everything on the west side of Ray Road could remain at York and everything on the east side of Ray Road could be assigned to Barton’s Pond? This could also provide a boundary for Middle School and High School assignments in the future.

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Steve Lim at October 25, 2021 at 2:08pm EDT

If your kids are currently enrolled at Sycamore Creek and impacted by the Barton Pond reassignment, don't forget to provide feedback on the forum below as well:

https://wcpss.granicusideas.com/discussions/draft-1-2022-23-student-enrollment-proposal/topics/proposed-calendar-application-school-changes

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Read Gentry at October 25, 2021 at 3:43pm EDT

I understand that a year round calendar was not chosen because there was not a NEED for the capacity that a year round calendar provides. However, I would like to see a single track year round calendar OR modified calendar considered. You are pulling families from year round and traditional schools for BPES, and then sending many back to year round for middle school. I would propose a single track YR or modified calendar would alleviate some of the calendar issues families will face, and ease the transition between calendars. Asking SCES families to change calendars 3 times during their time in wake county schools is unacceptable, and there are clearly financially feasible solutions that should be considered to benefit everyone. I see on the wcpss site that there are currently 10 elementary schools that operate on a YR track 4 only schedule, as well as 3 elementary schools operating on a modified calendar so there is precedent for this and would then be providing more calendar options for families in the area, which they clearly want. It would also only ask all families to change calendars 1 time either going into middle or high school, instead of asking some families to change calendars multiple times.

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